Pakistan, Caste and dilemma of quislings

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maybe off topic but interesting info

http://www.bzu.edu.pk/PJSS/vol29no2_2009/FinalPJSS11.pdf
Pakistan Journal of Social Sciences (PJSS) Vol. 29, No. 2 (December 2009), pp. 301-312
Dacoity as an Organized Crime: A Case Study of Sindh Province

It is mentioned above that mostly dacoits have their hide outs in the jungles of Indus. The people living in the concerned areas are the important source of information to dacoits. Some of the people inform them due to fear others because of getting money and third category of them was those who belonged to the caste/tribe of dacoits.
 

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Being Muslim in India means Syeds spit on Julahas in an 'egalitarian community'
Mohammed Wajihuddin| TNN | May 16, 2010, 12.45 AM IST
There is no escape from caste in India. Even the Indian Muslim practises it. Mohammed Shabbir Ansari of Jalna, Maharashtra, should know. He founded the All-India Muslim OBC Front, which is leading the battle against Ashraaf or upper-caste discrimination against Ajlaaf or lower-caste Muslims.

Ansari recalls how the "Jamaat-e-Islami and other Muslim bodies would attack me when I said casteism existed among Muslims a decade ago." He says even highly-educated Muslims practise caste. "A syed family from Hyderabad called off my second daughter's marriage proposal once the boy's mother learnt that I belonged to the julaha (weaver's community)," Ansari says.




Ansari's experience illustrates the basic truths in the seminal study "Hindustan Mein Zaat-Paat Aur Musalman" (Casteism in India and Muslims) written by the Lucknow-based scholar Masood Alam Falahi in 2008. Falahi traced the origin of caste practices among Muslims and named the noted ulema who winked at it. He said the caste system took root among Indian Muslims after Qutbuddin Aibak founded the Delhi Sultanate in the 13th century. Sultanate scholars divided Muslims into Ashraaf and Ajlaaf.




The Ashraaf are Syed, Shaikh, Mughal and Pathan and the Ajlaaf are Qasai (butcher), Nai (barber), Julaha (weaver). The very lowest Ajlaafs were Arzaals (sweepers, shoe-makers, etc). Hundreds of years later, the Sultanate's categorization would be given extra legitimacy by respected 20th century clerics such as Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi, who extolled the supremacy of Syeds.




In fact, Muslims' caste-consciousness runs so deep Allama Iqbal reprimanded them in a couplet: "Yun to Syed bhi ho, Mirza bhi ho Afghan bhi ho/Tum sabhi kuchch ho batao ke Musalman bhi ho (You are Syed, Mirza and Afghan/You are everything but Muslim)".



The paradox of Muslim casteism can give rise to extraordinary situations. Falahi recalls Muslim speakers asking dalit Hindus in Azamgarh to embrace Islam a few years ago because "everyone is treated equally here. But a man stood up and said 'there might be no castes in Islam, there are castes among Indian Muslims'. The speakers had no answer to that."

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‘noble’ (sharif) and ‘despicable’ (razil)
So Sharif mean noble(higher caste). Is that why Pakistani PM has surname 'Sharif' ? And in return his opponents ridicule by calling him 'Lohar' (blacksmith)
 
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http://wap.business-standard.com/ar...t-meddlesome-punjabi-army-115041401045_1.html

Mr Wilkinson focuses on the ethnic imbalance within that army, where Punjabis form a large majority. A well-recognised tenet of civil-military relations holds that a military recruited predominantly from a narrow segment of the populace tends to become guardian of certain specific interests, unlike a "national" army that is recruited equitably from across a country's ethnicities, religions and geographies.
Marshalling a trove of official data beginning from the late 19th century, he illustrates how British military administrators systematically "Punjab-ised" the Indian Army. After the 1857 uprising, British recruiters drew mainly from areas that had not revolted against the British, particularly Punjab, but also the North West Frontier Province, Jammu, Garhwal and the Gurkha areas.

This deliberate Punjabi dominance was perpetuated through the post-1857 decades, the army's massive expansion during two World Wars and, incredibly, even in post-independence India and Pakistan, in particular during the expansion of the Indian Army after the 1962 Sino-Indian war. Mr Wilkinson tellingly illustrates how the Indian and Pakistani military establishments, long after independence, continued to blindly follow British "martial race" policies.
Thus was created the narrow-based force
 

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About the 2nd para of 2nd quota , Is it still in practice ???? Army recruit all over the India, there is no discrimination in officer entry and also army conduct regular rally all over the India .
The possible imbalance is about the historic reason as British recruit on those particular reason for a century there a family tradition develop in those area...father follow son...his son follow father in military etc ...It's created in century of practice..it will take time to pop up military family all over the India.
 

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...galitarian-community/articleshow/5935797.cms?
Being Muslim in India means Syeds spit on Julahas in an 'egalitarian community'
Mohammed Wajihuddin| TNN | May 16, 2010, 12.45 AM IST



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So Sharif mean noble(higher caste). Is that why Pakistani PM has surname 'Sharif' ? And in return his opponents ridicule by calling him 'Lohar' (blacksmith)
Time for an Islamic Ambedkar who turns them all to Buddhism!
 

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About the 2nd para of 2nd quota , Is it still in practice ???? Army recruit all over the India, there is no discrimination in officer entry and also army conduct regular rally all over the India .
The possible imbalance is about the historic reason as British recruit on those particular reason for a century there a family tradition develop in those area...father follow son...his son follow father in military etc ...It's created in century of practice..it will take time to pop up military family all over the India.
From the same article :

Sadly, this riveting, well-written book, which will undoubtedly be a reference work for future scholars, is marred by numerous glaring inaccuracies. The author is apparently unaware that (Indian) officers are selected through competitive examinations and interviews, and that the number of Punjabis at any time is purely coincidental, not a reflection of policy.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...galitarian-community/articleshow/5935797.cms?
Being Muslim in India means Syeds spit on Julahas in an 'egalitarian community'
Mohammed Wajihuddin| TNN | May 16, 2010, 12.45 AM IST



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So Sharif mean noble(higher caste). Is that why Pakistani PM has surname 'Sharif' ? And in return his opponents ridicule by calling him 'Lohar' (blacksmith)
wish we could have more to read on ashrafis v/s ajlafis too here. the knowledge about these would be something like a mini-Brahmaastra for the Hindus!
 

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Certain regions have 'martial tradition'. They develop kind of ecosystem with social awareness about armed forces. In case of Pakistan add clannish mentality, sifarishbazi to that.

The core catchment area for the Pakistan army is northern punjab especially the Potohar plateau. Unlike Southern Punjab it does not have very good agriculture.

The Pothohar Plateau (Punjabi: پوٹھوار, Urdu: سطح مرتفع پوٹھوہار‎; alternatively spelled Potohar or Pothwar) is a plateau in north-eastern Pakistan, forming the northern part of Punjab. It borders the western parts of Kashmir and the southern parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
Potohar Plateau is bounded in the east by the Jhelum River, in the west by the Indus River, in the north by the Kala Chitta Range and the Margalla Hills, and in the south by the Salt Range.

Potohar is home to many different clans including Abbasi, Awans, Jatts, Bhatti Rajputs, HanjraRajput, Janjua Rajputs, Jasgams, ThathalsMinhas Rajputs, Satti Rajputs, Tarkhans, Gujjars, Gakhar clans and many others.



Note the physical proximity of the Potohar region with Kashmir. Especially POK seems to be in continuity with the land. That could be one of the contributing factors for obsession of Punjabi Pakistanis especially army, with kashmir. I doubt if people down south in Karachi or even the pashtuns have that kind of intense obsession with Kashmir.
(However the kashmir valley itself is geographically segregated. It is like a bowl with central valley surrounded by mountains from all sides which are completely cutoff for few months by snow.)
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It seems people calling themselves Kashmiri get easy access to higher positions in power circles of Punjab. Current PM Nawaz Sharif and his extended clan and coterie that occupies most top government positions call themselves kashmiri (though he migratrd from Amritsar). Nawaz Sharif himself was propped up by Pakistan army against the Bhuttos (Sindhi/Rajasthani Rajput converts and ex-employee of runaway Nawab of Junagadh)
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Also Pakistani capital Islamabad, military headquarters (real power center) Rawalpindi are in same region.

Original capital of Pakistan was in Karachi, but as Punjabi Army took over Pakistan, It was shifted to north with creation of brand new city Islamabad.

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Second largest community in Pakistan army is pashtuns. Pashtuns of course traditionally have been mercenaries and raiders or simply migrate to plains for long time. (The region Pashtuns live in dont have enough agricultural land and because of their location there has been no stability for centuries to develop civilized society.)
 
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https://www.telegraphindia.com/1130202/jsp/opinion/story_16506225.jsp
PAKISTAN OF THE ARMY GENERALS
On a rough calculation of the last 1,000 years, India has had at least 40 major foreign invasions through the western and north-western frontiers. Hence, the culture of the gun is deeply ingrained in the people there. What constituted access to India (through passes like the Makran, Bolan, Gomal, Khyber, Zoji la and Karakorum) in the past were far away from the heartland of Hindustan. The epicentre of violence shifted nearer home post-1947 as the border of India began from the checkposts of Gujarat, Rajasthan, Punjab and Jammu and Kashmir.

Understandably the soldiers of Pakistan’s army (who are recruited from certain traditional areas) consider themselves to be members of the ‘martial races’. Men from the Potohar plateau and the Punjab plains initially joined the British Indian army in large numbers. Potohar plateau, which was traditionally under the influence of the Gakkhar tribe, today has one of its natives, Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, as the chief of the Pakistan army since October 2007.
This mythology of the ‘martial races’ theory intoxicated the Islamabad army so much that from the beginning, Pakistani generals held the civilian bosses in utter contempt. With frequent coups and ceaseless Goebbels-like propaganda, disinformation/misinformation campaigns and psychological war, successive dictators raised the people’s expectations to absurd heights only to fall from grace.
 

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https://tribune.com.pk/story/444417/is-the-pakistan-army-martial/?amp=1

Is the Pakistan army martial?
AAKAR PATEL
Sep.29,2012


Are Punjabi Muslims martial? Do they have a history of war and conquest or at least of resistance to conquest? I ask because there’s no evidence of their martial character in our history. No general, no subedar, no thanedar, no wazir, no bakhshi of the Mughal empire was a Punjabi Muslim so far as I know.

I might be wrong about this but there are only two Punjabi Muslims named in Mughal texts. The first is Kamaal Khan Gakkhar, who submitted (without fighting) to Akbar in 1576, according to Akbarnama. The second is Jalal Khan Gakkhar, an old man named among the victims by Jahangir in a skirmish with Afghans in 1620. A third reference is indirect, the name of the author of Shah Jahan’s Padishahnama is Shaikh Abdul Hamid “Lahori”. The Ain-e-Akbari has one joint reference to Janjuas and Awans, calling them tribes conquered by Afghans. There are of course Punjabi Hindus (mainly Khatris) who fought for the Mughals with distinction. Like Todar Mal, who led the sapping at the siege of Chittorgarh against the Sisodiya Rajputs, and also settled the revenue system for Akbar. Maathir ul Umara says Todar Mal was born in Lahore, though British scholars thought this was Laharpur in Awadh.

Where are the Punjabi Muslims? The fact is that the Punjabi Muslim is a convert mainly from the peasantry (Jat) which is not martial. General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani is Gakkhar, a caste that claims Rajput ancestry. The second Rohtas fort was built by Sher Khan Suri to pacify the Gakkhars. In his Tuzuk, Jahangir makes the remark in passing that the Gakkhars are warlike, but adds that they only fight among themselves. Meanwhile Rajput, Afghan, Maratha, Sikh, Jat (Hindu) and tribal Hindu generals all fought for and against Mughal armies. Rajputs had to be continually submitted by force, except for the loyal Kachwahas of Ambar (Jaipur). Right down to Aurangzeb, according to Maasir-e-Alamgiri, Mewar’s Sisodiyas and Marwar’s Rathors resisted the emperor. I clarify here that Muslims other than Punjabis fought the Mughals, and some very well.

Uttar Pradesh’s Rohilla Afghans were enemies of the Mughals and one of them (Najibud Daulah) ruled from Mughal Delhi for 10 years. Turkish-speaking Turani Sunnis and Farsi-speaking Irani Shias were the most important parties in the Mughal court. The former ranked as better fighters than the latter, who were better administrators. The fiercest Indian-origin Muslims were Shias, the Syeds of Barha (in Uttar Pradesh). The Maratha light cavalry was devastating and ended Muslim rule over India. The Sikhs captured Punjab and raided west up to Kabul and east up to the Doab. The Jats south of Delhi made life miserable for the later Mughals. Even the Baniya general Hemu showed martial character, almost ending Mughal rule before falling at the second battle of Panipat.

What exactly did the Punjabi Muslim do? Invaders who got past Peshawar could then only be stopped at Karnal or Panipat because they went through Punjab undisturbed. It is true that the armies of both Nadir Shah and Ahmed Shah Abdali were harassed in Punjab on their return with Mughal booty, but their attackers were Sikhs, not Muslims. Punjab was a quiet state. Punjabi Muslims neither rebelled against Mughal Delhi nor fought any invader whether Afghan or Persian. Was this because the Punjabi did not want to fight other Muslims? Not really, because he did not even resist being conquered easily by Sikhs.

It is the Englishman who 150 years ago gave the Punjabi Muslim a rifle and taught him how to use it. But this did not require any martial background. The British Bengal army was full of UP Brahmins (like Mangal Pandey). It is only after this formation of the modern regiments, that Punjabi Muslims are called martial by writers like GF MacMunn. After the English left, the record of Punjabi Muslims at war under their own generals is not sterling. I count one draw and one loss and I’m being charitable. Against the Pashtun Talib the record is not encouraging, despite the thousands of martyrs. Nadir Shah said of Indian Muslims after the battle of Karnal that they “know how to die, but not how to fight”.

This is fine and many states of India are not martial. Few soldiers were produced by Bengal’s Hindus for instance, and not many by Gujarat even today. But they don’t have the militant bombast of the Punjabi Muslim (who apparently equals 10 Hindus). I’m just wondering what this bombast is based on because I cannot figure it out.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 30th, 2012.
 

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https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/01/22/on-caste-and-the-pakistan-army/
........... While the two-nation theory is imbibed and perpetuated by a large segment of the society in North and Central Punjab, it was actually championed by the Muhajir bureaucracy in the first 25 years of independence. Ghulam Muhammad, a muhajir accountant, who was the first finance minister of Pakistan, gave a speech on the floor of the constituent assembly extolling the virtues of a powerful army, of diverting the budget towards arms accumulation, and of being prepared to mount a credible defense (and where applicable, effective attack) in the face of an ever-looming Indian threat.
 

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http://www.academia.edu/13218845/EN...-LOCAL_AND_TRANSNATIONAL_AGRARIAN_CITIZENSHIP
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learned a phrase in above “dependent thinking

Hence, the end purpose of the Dalit or peasant movementshould not be simply to emancipate peasants from bondage,to raise the social status of the marginalized according to thestandards setup by the dominant classes, (as changing orhiding untouchable caste by effacing them from theirsurnames and instead of attaching the Rajput caste prefix, incase of Dalits of Sindh). They should depend on self-generated thinking having its own locus, instead of depending on the “dependent thinking” given forth by the powerful„other‟. They should not look towards him for recognitionand acceptance would only perpetuate “sustained subordination.
 

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I've read that article before and it is bigoted and disingenuous. The (Indian Patel) author makes the claim that Jats are not martial but then mentions Delhi Jats and Sikhs (made out of Jats mostly!) as martial. Well, they are the same frickin race!

The clue to why the Pakistani Muslims rolled over without a fight in the face of Muslim invaders is in the way they react to repeated provocations by the Afghans and Iranians nowadays. Being converts, they feel like they have a chip on their shoulders and strive extra hard to fit into Islamic Ummah. Every time they are attacked their reaction is along the predictable lines of "we are all Islamic brothers, why you fight us?"
 

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https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:d34273e4-b3b3-44cc-bd56-dbac9390468c
Malik, A and Malik, T, (2017). Pirs and politics in Punjab, 1937-2013. Modern Asian Studies.

Pirs and politics in Punjab, 1937-2013

A B S T R A C T
This paper provides a first systematic mapping of politically influential shrines across Pakistani Punjab by identifying shrine-related families that have directly participated in elections since 1937. One of the earliest entrants in the politics of pre-partition Punjab, shrine elites (pīrs) have shown remarkable persistence in electoral politics post-independence. We find striking long-run continuities in the initial configuration of religion, land and politics fostered during colonial rule and embodied in political shrines. Exploring possible mechanisms of this persistence, we emphasize the role of shifting political alliances, repeated military interventions, marital ties among shrine elites and preservation of political brokerage. Defined by their privileged “origins and associations” and organized as a group with a strong sense of solidarity around protecting common interests, the pīrs are a key component of Punjab’s power elite, the study of which is central to understanding the genesis and persistence of elites and institutions.

Very long paper

5. Conclusion
This paper provides one of the first systematic mappings of politically influential shrines across Pakistani Punjab. Taking into account multiple rounds of electoral data, we find strong evidence of political persistence. The political power of shrines is anchored in Punjab’s colonial history that placed pīrs in a favourable position, allowing them to combine their religious authority with landed power. Supported by systematic colonial patronage, shrine elites made an early entry into the politics of pre-partition Punjab and survive in the parliament to this day. In fact, the pir-zamindars remain an important component of dynastic politics. Our analysis suggests possible mechanisms for this persistence, highlighting four interrelated explanations for the survival of religious dynasties in politics. These pertain to the role of shifting political loyalties, use of marriage as a strategic political instrument, frequent military interventions, and the pir’s control of political brokerage. In doing so, we draw on several, previously un-consulted, sources and furnish rich information on relevant actors and their strategies, alliances, and control of economic resources. Punjab’s leading shrines offer a ready-made network for politics, bringing forth not only the unflinching support of their devotees but also the wider network of shrine brotherhood (pir-bhai) spread in neighbouring regions. The pīrs have a strong sense of class consciousness and protect their group solidarity. In the political domain, however, they are often engaged in acts of both cooperation as well as competition. Valued for their role in elite brokerage, political parties derive significant political externalities by enlisting their support. In broader terms, the evidence marshalled in this paper corroborates David Gilmartin’s astute observation that the religious and political authority is co-constituted in Punjab. Enshrining the combined influence of religion, land and politics, riverine shrines are an important component of de facto political power. This analysis underscores the need for a deeper understanding of the mutual intertwining of religion and politics for any holistic mapping of Punjab’s political economy. Although our analysis is limited to Punjab it has important parallels in other Muslim societies. In North Africa, where shrine personalities had figured less prominently in the political calculus, Sufi orders have re-asserted their power in the political domain and are providing a new lease of legitimacy to authoritarian regimes (Werenfels 2014). While casting fresh light on an important and under-studied subject, we identify several potential lines of enquiry for future researchers. Analysis based on aggregate data masks the considerable variation in the political influence of shrines. The constantly evolving dialectic between pīrs and political parties deserves a closer analysis. Depending on where they are located and the strength of their network, the pīrs can have a differential bargaining power vis-à-vis political parties. In regions where pīrs are not in a uniquely advantaged position, they are actively engaged in acts of negotiation and concessions. Another source of variation is purely temporal. Despite strong patterns of persistence, the pir’s political authority is subjected to new sources of contestation, such as the rise of media, education, urbanization and migration. A more refined understanding of both the emerging patterns of heterogeneity and their underlying drivers deserves close scrutiny. Admittedly, our analysis does not fully encapsulate the political impact of shrines, since it takes into account only the direct role of shrines in electoral politics. Many pīrs abstain from the electoral race but play an important kingmaker role from behind the scenes. In such instances, real power tends to reside in unelected brokers outside the parliament. Given its significance, supplementary work is needed to map such indirect political role of shrines.
 

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Journal of Ethnic and Cultural Studies 2016 2016, Vol. 3, No. 1, 11-19

Ethnicity Based Social Exclusion of Nomads in Khyber District Malakand, Pakhtunkhwa-Pakistan
Muhammad Suliman, Mussawar Shah1 , Asad Ullah and Humera Jamal

The study found nomadic groups more prone to exclusion within the study area. Their social exclusion was found relative in nature with ethnicity. Ethnicity was measured on the basis of ethnic groups’ living standards, occupation and income level. They also experienced lack of employment opportunities, low political participation and high level of illiteracy. They were predominantly found within geographically remote or semi-arid areas. The results revealed they face huge discrimination on the basis of their ethnic marginality.
 

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Pak. J. Agri. Sci., Vol. 50(3), 511-516; 2013

A STUDY OF NOMADS IN DISTRICT FAISALABAD
Saira Akhtar* , Najla Akhtar and Farhan Maheen

The major source of income for nomads was labour (67.5 percent) while some of them were involved in picking over waste tip i.e. (12.5 percent) it was second major source of income. More than one fourth i.e., 38.5 percent of the respondents reported that both the male and female were involved in labour. While almost an equal proportion of people i.e. 35 percent of the respondents reported that the children also work with the male and female members of the family.
s. The present study shows that the birth rate among nomads is very high i.e. 33.3 percent respondents have 5-10 children while 54.2 percent respondents have 1-5
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Pak. J. Agri. Sci., Vol. 50(3), 511-516; 2013

A STUDY OF NOMADS IN DISTRICT FAISALABAD
Saira Akhtar* , Najla Akhtar and Farhan Maheen



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Kochis or Kuchis (from the Persian word: کوچ koch; meaning "migration") are Afghan nomads similar to Arabian Bedouins, primarily from the Ghilji tribal confederacy. Some of the most notable Ghilji Kochi tribes include the Kharoti, Andar and Ahmadzai. Sometimes Durrani tribes can be found among the Kochi, and occasionally there may also be some Baloch people among them that live a pastoral nomadic lifestyle.[1] In the Pashto language, the terms are Kochai (singular) and Kochian (plural). In the Persian language, "Kochi" and "Kochiha" are the singular and plural forms (respectively).


 

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