Pakistan cannot sustain an 'Arms Race' with India

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I didn't find any official document for it but expert says less than 5K Indian and 15K mukti bahini solider.
 

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Guys, we need to come up with strategies that Pakistan will burn more money in defense.
 

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And do you know that 93000 Pakistani solider surrender against how many Indian solider :p

That's factually incorrect. Pakistan surrendered to India- BD Joint Command. We Bangladeshis had fought for nine months against India's two weeks. We had far more fighters on ground than India's - practically the whole population of 70 mlln. However, we in BD always acknowledge with gratitude India's assistance and sacrifice in the '71 War, although India had her own agenda in this conflict.
 

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So what is your answer? Mine is disarmament of all SA nations.
That is wishful thinking. How about including China? India borders have two nations who's sole objective is expansionism. My advice to everyone is to place themselves in India and look at the Geo politics aspiration of our neighbouring countries. Both the countries are illegally occupying independent countries. China is occupying Tibet and Pakistan is occupying Baluchistan.
 

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That's factually incorrect. Pakistan surrendered to India- BD Joint Command. We Bangladeshis had fought for nine months against India's two weeks. We had far more fighters on ground than India's - practically the whole population of 70 mlln. However, we in BD always acknowledge with gratitude India's assistance and sacrifice in the '71 War, although India had her own agenda in this conflict.
War came to an end only after Indian interference and the Pakistani general signed the instrument of surrender to Indian army officials, not to the mukthi bahini. India didn't just assist Bangladeshis, she saved them from being butchered any further. If you feel ashamed to say India was the reason for Bangladesh's birth then it is unfortunate.
 

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They are people who want to live in delusion. They will buy few JF 17 and think that they are in race with India. They will get one satellite and think that they have moved ahead of India. India is 7 time more powerful than them still they think that they are in race and they can defeat india with their shitty weapons.
 

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That's factually incorrect. Pakistan surrendered to India- BD Joint Command. We Bangladeshis had fought for nine months against India's two weeks. We had far more fighters on ground than India's - practically the whole population of 70 mlln. However, we in BD always acknowledge with gratitude India's assistance and sacrifice in the '71 War, although India had her own agenda in this conflict.
While I won't deny India had its own agenda, India had taken a huge risk of alienating itself from the world powers. There was no international support for your freedom movement. US was blatantly supporting the genocide by pakistan by threatening us with 7th fleet, all of west was quiet and questioning India for wagging war, Chinese which you want run around with today was supporting Pak. While Bangladeshis fought bravely, you should acknowledge that without Indian support and sticking its neck out, there was very little chance of Bangladesh with west and China favouring Pakistan.

We literally had to abandon our NAM to look for support from USSR and that's really screwed up our foreign policy.
 

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That's factually incorrect. Pakistan surrendered to India- BD Joint Command. We Bangladeshis had fought for nine months against India's two weeks. We had far more fighters on ground than India's - practically the whole population of 70 mlln. However, we in BD always acknowledge with gratitude India's assistance and sacrifice in the '71 War, although India had her own agenda in this conflict.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Without Mother India to bail your ass,your people would have been raped and butchered by islamist pakis
your native tongue would not be Bengali today,but Urdu
all this would be swept under the carpet of Islam
remember none of the Western nations were supporting your Independence movement,India had to take a huge risk with liberating you guys

Oh yes we had our own agenda :D
Master Stroke that war was in the history of India.
Love you bangladeshis <3
keep hating pakis <3
Also dont elect any islamist mullahs,elect bengali nationalists who want peace with India ok?
 

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They are people who want to live in delusion. They will buy few JF 17 and think that they are in race with India. They will get one satellite and think that they have moved ahead of India. India is 7 time more powerful than them still they think that they are in race and they can defeat india with their shitty weapons.
Not defeat :lol:
They somehow think they are 'equal' to us.
No country in the subcontinent is 'equal' to us,in any metric,negative or positive.
All these little countries should understand that.There is no shame in admitting it.

saying Bangladesh is equal or superior to India is like saying Mexico is equal or superior to US
 

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Pakistan is already defeated. Its ideology of superiority over Hindu India has bitten the dust. It is surviving on alms.

Pakistan lags India on every single indicator, even on nukes, for which it was ready to eat grass.

Remember ideological defeat is much greater than military defeat.
 

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1: Our GDP is actually 272 billion and defense budget stands at 9.5 billion

2: It isnt our fault that our population is around 200 billion compared to India's population of around 1.5 trillion.

3: Our ISI is not funded by the government, its a self-dependant organization; which gains money though various cells around the world.

4: Even with that 50 billion dollar 'supa powa budget' your soldiers are less equipped than ethiopian policemen.
hugh population does not necessarily means hugh gdp,

india may got hugh population but half of them are poor and they do not contribute to india gdp,

and other thing is hugh population of so called minorities of muslims and others gets govt. concessions,

so they are burden for govt and not contributors,

50 billion $ budget is not enough for indian military obviously it requires thrice of that.
 

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hugh population does not necessarily means hugh gdp,

india may got hugh population but half of them are poor and they do not contribute to india gdp,

and other thing is hugh population of so called minorities of muslims and others gets govt. concessions,

so they are burden for govt and not contributors,

50 billion $ budget is not enough for indian military obviously it requires thrice of that.
For a 4 million strong army, you need alot more than 50 billion dollars - that I agree with you.
 

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For a 4 million strong army, you need alot more than 50 billion dollars - that I agree with you.
If you are a Baloch, you must understand that Pakistan Army is killing your tribes.

Indian military is 1.3M + around 1M para-military. However only around 30% of para-military has duties related to external security (like BSF, Coast Guard). So you can say effective military strength is 1.6M.
 

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If you are a Baloch, you must understand that Pakistan Army is killing your tribes.

Indian military is 1.3M + around 1M para-military. However only around 30% of para-military has duties related to external security (like BSF, Coast Guard). So you can say effective military strength is 1.6M.
No, thats a lie - spread by BLA and fueled by Indian media.

Balochis love Pakistan - and we believe in Islamic brotherhood.

BLA has been kidnapping people and blaming it on ISI; they bomb hospitals, attack developments and try to keep us down. But they have been failing - in 2015 alone 400 of them surrendered after they did not receive their salaries. The remaining 100 are being forced to fight by their leaders or their family faces danger.

BLA insurgency should die down by the end of 2016.

Pakistan army has been arming the Baloch tribes and we are now fighting against BLA.
 

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Pakistan is already defeated. Its ideology of superiority over Hindu India has bitten the dust. It is surviving on alms.

Pakistan lags India on every single indicator, even on nukes, for which it was ready to eat grass.

Remember ideological defeat is much greater than military defeat.
Our ideology is a separate Muslim homeland and it has succeeded; India has a population of 1.2 billion - so of course it will be ahead of us in many sectors. Pakistan has quality, India has quantity. That's all I can say,

And how exactly are we surviving on alms? Pakistan has been thriving recently, and the government has predicted a 7% growth next year; once our energy crisis and regulation of economy (40% of our economy is undocumented) we'll surge in terms of economic power. Terrorism is nearly dead, and so is crime and corruption - after massive operations by the Government and army.
 

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They are people who want to live in delusion. They will buy few JF 17 and think that they are in race with India. They will get one satellite and think that they have moved ahead of India. India is 7 time more powerful than them still they think that they are in race and they can defeat india with their shitty weapons.
What shitty weapons? You guys have quantity - we have quality. Remember that.
 

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That is wishful thinking. How about including China? India borders have two nations who's sole objective is expansionism. My advice to everyone is to place themselves in India and look at the Geo politics aspiration of our neighbouring countries. Both the countries are illegally occupying independent countries. China is occupying Tibet and Pakistan is occupying Baluchistan.
Pakistan isnt occupying Balochistan - 99% Balochis love Pakistan.
 

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And do you know that 93000 Pakistani solider surrender against how many Indian solider :p
Bhai, half of that army was made up of Bengalis - and after the blockade of Dkaha the garrison forces couldnt fight on any more without ammo. Its smartest move was to surrender; and I'm glad they did. Its better to fight another day. Pakistan could've easily fended off a Indian offensive - but it wasnt worth it any more; we were losing too much money and resources trying to keep Bangladesh under control - we were going to quit it anyway. India just gave a better alternative for us to retreat.
 

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