Pakistan approves transfer of Gwadar port from Singapore to China

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Re: India irked as China gets Pakistan's strategic Gwadar port.

For those who think India should not be irked, please think again

Chinese takeover of Gwadar port means pipeline through Gilgit. China will never allow India to reclaim Gilgit Baltistan ever in future to protect it's pipeline.

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@arnabmit

USA has been successful for 10 years in preventing any pipelines into Pakistan I don't
think USA will give up now.
 
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We should not be irked.We should instead invite (1) IDF to have a platoon stationed in Kashmir near LOC. and
(2) a company of U S Marines stationed in Tawang.

Better idea is to put more Indian naval fleet on our western part and also collaborate with Navies of Japan/SK/Taiwan/US/Vietnam/Phil.

Indian territory needs to have Indian soldiers only.
 

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We should not be irked.We should instead invite (1) IDF to have a platoon stationed in Kashmir near LOC. and
(2) a company of U S Marines stationed in Tawang.
1) We should amp up the work on Chhabar port.
2) Seek permanent naval presence in SCS.
 

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USA has already lost to China economically

USA can't fight China militarily

Diplomatically Middle East sides with China more than USA

@arnabmit

USA has been successful for 10 years in preventing any pipelines into Pakistan I don't
think USA will give up now.
 
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USA has already lost to China economically

USA can't fight China militarily

Diplomatically Middle East sides with China more than USA
you r wrong. ammmerika still have balls and world power
 
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USA has already lost to China economically

USA can't fight China militarily

Diplomatically Middle East sides with China more than USA
US economy is still 5-7 times Chinese economy, without USA china has no economy.
Militarily just a simple comparision of US might one OHIO sub has more nuclear weapons/power
than the whole Chinese arsenal.24 trident missiles with 10 MIRV 475 kilotons each or 120 megatons
in 240 warheads not including 154 cruise missiles. Chinese military capability is 30-50 years behind USA.
in 1950's USA fired SLBM's China did it 60 years later. Can you name one area militarily china is
ahead of USA?
 
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Dubai Ports World controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Dubai Ports World controversy began in February 2006 and rose to prominence as a national security debate in the United States. At issue was the sale of port management businesses in six major U.S. seaports to a company based in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and whether such a sale would compromise port security.

The controversy pertained to management contracts of six major United States ports. The purchaser was DP World (DPW), a state-owned company in the UAE. The contracts had already been foreign-owned, by Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company (P&O), a British firm taken over by DPW (completed in March 2006). Although the sale was approved by the executive branch of the United States Government, various United States political figures argued that the takeover would compromise U.S. port security.

U.S. President George W. Bush argued vigorously for the approval of the deal, claiming that the delay sends the wrong message to U.S. allies. Legislation was introduced to the United States Congress to delay the sale.
 

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Well that's the difference between a whore and Chaste women.
As soon as somebody offends the whore she cries whore and looks for
customers to save her. Chaste women tries to solve the problems by her own.
Well, every country has once acted as a whore in its history. China did that, Britian did that and India did that!
There is no shame about it. In order to resist your aggressive neighbour, sometimes you have to make a deal with a third party.
 

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We are not lackeys like pakis of anyone.

Instead we should give our migs to afghanistan and train them to blast a few places along the durand line, that would pinch a few fatty's in pindi and elsewhere.
Thinker of any "Strategic move" should keep in mind to how to "increase OUR foot step". it will be unnecessary to internationalize any issue which can be tamed in by other means.
1 India must increase its foot-hold in Iran and prepare road map for larger Base presence at their port.
2. Afghanistan must be better utilized from what ever side it can be acted upon as a deterrent...
3. Central Asian countries West to China can be used for better presence through Trade route,
etc ..
Never give foot-steps to Foreign Power at strategic places. It can uselessly internationalize and prove futile, and never think in haste ..
I think I am misunderstood.A token force of IDF near LOC in Kashmir and the US Marines in AP would serve to make a point.Nothing more.It would be very symbolic though.This does not make us any body's lackey.Neither does it internationalize the issue.I for one would love to rub sino-pakistani nose in pig dirt!!
 

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Build a China-Pakistan-Iran pipeline , then Hormuz would not be a bottleneck either. :cool2:

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This map is banned in this forum, please do not endorse Pakistani wet dream of seeing whole J&K green.

Thanks
 

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while the Indian members might be thinking or to be precise just pretend that this is not a issue
but if ever the Chinese made rail LINK and naval base in gwadar
onwards 2014 Pakistan would be busy conducting kargil each after 2 years while India wont be able to do anything

the best India at the moment can do is to take this to UN and by any mean stop China from going for a naval base at gwadar even under pn

as pn has already confirmed base in gwadar and might deploy the kpc-3 ssbn
 

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while the Indian members might be thinking or to be precise just pretend that this is not a issue
but if ever the Chinese made rail LINK and naval base in gwadar
onwards 2014 Pakistan would be busy conducting kargil each after 2 years while India wont be able to do anything


the best India at the moment can do is to take this to UN and by any mean stop China from going for a naval base at gwadar even under pn

as pn has already confirmed base in gwadar and might deploy the kpc-3 ssbn
We cant stop Pakistan from doing stupidity, we have to live with it. As usual Pakistan Generals will years after will say it is stupidity on their part, after getting embarrassed and spanked hard by India.
 

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while the Indian members might be thinking or to be precise just pretend that this is not a issue
but if ever the Chinese made rail LINK and naval base in gwadar
onwards 2014 Pakistan would be busy conducting kargil each after 2 years while India wont be able to do anything

the best India at the moment can do is to take this to UN and by any mean stop China from going for a naval base at gwadar even under pn

as pn has already confirmed base in gwadar and might deploy the kpc-3 ssbn
I am amazed with the way you think about conducting Kargil. You should also calculate the ultimate consequences that your country will have to live for ever. You need to come out of your fantasy world and ask your leaders to manage the internal affairs before making external adventures. Besides the Indian borders, you also have the uprising in Baluchistan and Durand line dispute with Afghanistan. If you still insist on playing this Kargil chess game than you are more than welcome. As a response to your future Kargil adventure we will advance along the entire length of our border with your nation and capture the maximum territory which will never be returned and expel all of your citizens ( It is my wish).
 

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China can do what it wants with Pakistan.

There is no quibbles on that.

However, what is critical is the control of access and egress from the port.

Further, the Seedhis or Makranis are not too enamoured over the control of Gwadar by non Makrani people.
 

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Re: India irked as China gets Pakistan's strategic Gwadar port.

China can do what it wants with Pakistan.

There is no quibbles on that.

However, what is critical is the control of access and egress from the port.

Further, the Seedhis or Makranis are not too enamoured over the control of Gwadar by non Makrani people.


Is there any chance of Sindies or Makaranie revolting over this issue and spank the Chinese..
 

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Is there any chance of Sindies or Makaranie revolting over this issue and spank the Chinese..
They may not revolt, but they have great potential to cause problems.

They have done it before, since they are not getting the share of the pie in the development of this region, which was always neglected hithertofore.
 

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I am amazed with the way you think about conducting Kargil. You should also calculate the ultimate consequences that your country will have to live for ever. You need to come out of your fantasy world and ask your leaders to manage the internal affairs before making external adventures. Besides the Indian borders, you also have the uprising in Baluchistan and Durand line dispute with Afghanistan. If you still insist on playing this Kargil chess game than you are more than welcome. As a response to your future Kargil adventure we will advance along the entire length of our border with your nation and capture the maximum territory which will never be returned and expel all of your citizens ( It is my wish).
so you mean to say that you will capture Pakistani territory after next kargil and will never return it back like Pakistan captured Kashmir a strategic location and more than half the size of Bangladesh with very less population captured it on force 64 years before and still hold it?do you mean something like this?

The rest of problems are All political and wont take a more than a month to settle down under imran khan

yes you would have seen more kargil as well much more unrest in Indian Kashmir if we would have not started the war on terror

anyway wot has atlast come to an end
 

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Re: India irked as China gets Pakistan's strategic Gwadar port.

They may not revolt, but they have great potential to cause problems.

They have done it before, since they are not getting the share of the pie in the development of this region, which was always neglected hithertofore.
sir JI are you aware of the development in gwader?

If not please Google it..local people are getting alot.and remember that if the Chinese has taken up the gwadar they will change the whole structure of the city

onwards 2000 the land cost of gwadar getting higher faster than any other city in Pakistan
 

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