Man you are so lame.in war everything is possible it doesnt matter whether it effect the UN rules or whatever
Beside this chinese ship wont pass through indian ocean because the shipment will be done b/w middle eastern countries and back to gwadar..which would be later supplied through either rail or other means of transport
while indian oil supply would be completely blocked by PN and PLAN naval ships.
and PLAN only 15% of fleet is more than enough for whole IN
other than this china has planned port in bangladesh and sri lanka also
All of PLAN can't do shit to India in the Indian Ocean leave alone the 15% the retarded Paki is talking off. We will blockade the Paki ports cut off their water supply and watch them die of thirst.Man you are so lame.
So you think in the event of indopak war, china which is pakitans ally will act against india, and you think allies of india (US and russia) will sit on there arse ?
US navy alone will take care of dwarf chinese navy, then who will save paki arse from the wrath of Indian+russian navy ?
Anyways, get out of your slumber, let me hit you with the reality bite. Learn some lessons from the 3 wars we had, how many times chinese came to your rescue ? In the event of indi-pak war, no third coutry will side with either of both. India and pakistan will be very much upon themselves in the war. Good luck!
With the army of more than 1.3 million soldiers may be under armed but well trained to handle any attack.
With better strategies because strategy decide the outcome of war.
with strong economy that can sustain war for longer period.
with young india that has more than 70% people young and fit for military service hence there would be no shortage of soldiers.
with our well trained air force that is counted in best forces in the world NOT in terms of equipments but in terms of skills and it has been seen by US air force during exercises.
with our modern navy that is equipped with more advanced weapons than army and air force. Currently no Pakistan nor China can defeat us.
with our commandos and operations behind the enemy lines that is very effective way to cripple enemy's defense.
with our new volunteer spys that would put their life in danger to get the secrets of enemy just like many people did in WW2 and succeeded.
Remember if you have strong will then you can over perform others who have more experience.
War is fought by weapons but won only by better strategies.
Huh?when the gwadar is operational under china..they will go for a naval base in gwadar or close to gwadar..when they already have a naval base along with numbers of ships why would they need to pass through indian ocean?Yes everything is possible in war is not fought based on possibilites but on solid and proven strategies. Pakistani navy is not able to block Indian oil supply and Chinese will have to come through indian ocean choke points where Indian Navy can easily stop them. If they take another route then they will have to cross through Panama canal that would not be possible because of American presence. Hence Chinese navy will have to go through south america and the they will be able to reach Indus ocean or Arabian sea. While travelling through such long route they will run out of supply and oil and will need supply buddy. Chinese navy would not be able to fight without proper fueling and supply and that is Pakistan going to give but how? Indian navy would block Gwadar before Chinese navy arrives to Arabian sea.
i am just supposing this because PN won't need any help from PLAN and PN base in gwadar is enough to block indian oil supply
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i said if plan already has a naval base in gwadarHow China is coming to add for Pakistan without passing through choke points in Indus ocean? Land option would be an alternative but can not replace sea trade completely. During war time you would need supply more frequently and then you'll be forced to take shipping route and here PN and PLAN has disadvantages.
you just cannot close the the bases in 24hours..if you can than tell me how?Now talking about Chinease bases in Shri Lanka and Bangladesh, those are not big problem those base can be down within 24 hours if needed. And even Chinese also knows that fighting with Navy with India is not a good option hence they would always prefer to fight on land rather than sea.
World Don't prefer India over china if world does than how?except that if you think world means israel and russia than yesOne more thing you should know that World prefers India over China in many cases and in war time India would have world's support that would be big advantage for us. They won't be able to give us military add but they can block trade to Pakistan and China then how you would survive without supply?
Get some research buddy and then talk.
I wish with all my heart that on the day we go to war all that you say will bear fruit.
You missed my intention to write this comment buddy. During critical war this is youth people that can join army and fight for the nation after PROPER TRAINING. Nobody sends untrend troops to the war.though I don't understand how even a fraction of the 70% of the country's youth can be turned into a soldier overnight. I know hand to hand combat, I can shoot a 3 inch cluster from 100 yards with a .22 rifle... maybe I can, but how will the rest? Will they fight with sticks or wield INSAS like a club?
Even no nation can say anytime that she is ready for the war. Preparation is the thing that can never be completed. In WW2 neither USA was prepared for war against Japan that had three times larger navy than USA nor Russia was prepared when Hitler attacked on her. It is tectics and strategy and sacrifice of soldiers that defines the outcome of a war.I am a die hard patriot, but I am not blind... when the army and defense ministry openly states that we are not ready for war, and status quo even after a decade, I get afraid... very afraid.
Come on dude! how can you miss this point? Any nation can fight a war only until her economy support it. It doesn't mean you throw money and just buy weapons. It's maintaining supply, re-arming troops, recruiting new soldiers, acquiring new weapons and all. I hope now you got it.Economy can only help if we have ability to produce in house specialized weapons & ammo. Else throwing notes and coins at the enemy would hardly win a war.
Strategy? Like Neheru's 1962 strategy? Can Armed forces take back GB if they wanted to unless GoI gives approval? I trust our armed forces with my life, but I trust our spineless GoI less than the dust on my boots. Sadly, GoI is the strategy maker, not the Armed Forces...
I found only this one at limited time. But map may be old but trade route is similar since long time.This map looks like its from the 18th century. Do you have a more up-to-date one?
OK, suppose China has navy base in Gwadar then what? How many ships she will station at that base? 5, 10 or 25? When war will break out and Indian navy would dominate the Gwadar then how long limited naval power of China and Pak would be able to sustain without any reinforcement and supply?Huh?when the gwadar is operational under china..they will go for a naval base in gwadar or close to gwadar..when they already have a naval base along with numbers of ships why would they need to pass through indian ocean?
If China has base in Gwadar then still she will need support of additional ships to be sent in Gwadar for support in war and they will not be able to reach there. This is my point.
I think you are kid under 16 age that's why you are not able to understand my point. I am tired of giving explanation. Do some research and you'll get answer.i am just supposing this because PN won't need any help from PLAN and PN base in gwadar is enough to block indian oil supply
Do you have a brain? Get some jumper leads and attach it to electrodes, it may start working.So your happy that another country controls a part of your territory ?
forever slaves :thumb:
I take it you've tried it on yourself ?Do you have a brain? Get some jumper leads and attach it to electrodes, it may start working.
Do you have a brain? Get some jumper leads and attach it to electrodes, it may start working.
Gwadar port is not OWNED by the Chinese firm but MANAGED.
Gwadar naval base would NOT be a CHINESE base but a Pakistan Navy/air force base with PLAN having the rights of permanent rotation.
There will be NO foreign base on Pakistani soil.
Chinese bring business to Pakistan and have been a loyal friend. Cooperation is needed to keep India in check :thumb:
Well that's the difference between a whore and Chaste women.We should not be irked.We should instead invite (1) IDF to have a platoon stationed in Kashmir near LOC. and
(2) a company of U S Marines stationed in Tawang.
We are not lackeys like pakis of anyone.We should not be irked.We should instead invite (1) IDF to have a platoon stationed in Kashmir near LOC. and
(2) a company of U S Marines stationed in Tawang.