Pakistan Air Force Says It Will Overtake IAF.

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Pointing out India's recent defence deal with the French aerospace manufacturer Dassault Aviation for 126 Dassault Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft, the statement claimed "the deal has come under increasing scrutiny after allegations of kickbacks being given to Indian defence officials.
The author has not kept up with times.

Earlier the Dassault Rafale was rejected by nations such as Singapore, South Korea, Morocco and Switzerland, citing lack of advanced technology and cost."
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Our flying hours can show them the mirror how better air force we are.

When our boys are pushing MKIs to its limits they are sitting on their eggs either waiting for spares from USA or mucking with aluminium frame JF-Blunder.
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I don't think there is anything left to discuss on this thread :notsure:
 

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I'd like to see the equation resulting in 34 = 39.5 and how those issues are factored in as variables.
We will be losing 13 squadrons of Mig-21s while adding 8 squadrons of MKI during that time(2012-17). That's the primary reason why squadron strength will fall.

While there is an issue when it comes to numbers, there is no doubt that it has little effect on capability. While we lose a Mig-21 squadron every few months, we add over one MKI every month. Considering IAF's very statement saying one MKI does the work of an entire squadron of Mig-21s, we have very little to be worried about.
 

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This is true. Pakistanis seem to be able to leverage their diplomatic positions
much better than India when it comes to keeping up. Indian govt knew for
decades that they are getting nice gifts and the govt never worked to build
a military manufacturing infrastructure complete lack of any strategic thinking.
small countries like Sweden and Israel are able to build 4th gen+ planes why is
India still buying? Anything bought will also be coming with conditions and can
change if relations change.


we too would have that military manufacturing capabilities if our country had participated in a world war 60 years ago.necessity is mother of intention
 

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Pak govt is a backstabber and liar.

They need to motivate their people on false promises because they got nothing to do so, whole PAF was sleeping while their soverignity brutally raped in OBL killing, PAF can't do anything against drones, cant do much against Talibunnies,can't do anything agianst NATO helis cooking their soldiers in dozens with missiles/bullets but heck they would surely "overtake" IAF.

While blabbering of Gazwa-e-hind they are doing Gazwa-e-fart on their own people.... 35,000 killed so far in WOT.
unfortunate but true..
its the part of govt to make such statements,not army.
this shows the expectations and acceptance of people of Pakistan of their armed forces and incompetence of govt to keep them under their control.that's why coups go there
 

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We will be losing 13 squadrons of Mig-21s while adding 8 squadrons of MKI during that time(2012-17). That's the primary reason why squadron strength will fall.

hope they get replaced one on one.
if fighter squadrons fall by 11 in 5yrs ,this time even if Antony stays as defence minister opposition will eat govts brain.
 

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Gen VK should probably write something like this to the PM and the letter must be leaked. That'll get the MOD moving around with their a$$es on fire and the result would be something similar to that of artillery. [ M-777 deal ]
 

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Mig 21
Empty weight: 4,871 kg (10,738 lb)
Gross weight: 7,100 kg (15,650 lb)
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


SU 30 MKI
Empty weight: 18,400 kg[68] (40,565 lb)
Loaded weight: 24,900 kg (54,895 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 38,800 kg (85,600 lb)
Sukhoi Su-30MKI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


so in weight area we can easily cover mig 21 retirement. Plus MRCA is also coming in few years. So situation is not that bad as it looks.

i love these MKIs



 
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we re better off accelerating LCA mk2 program. Let private
industries get involved on the manufacturing side.
 
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we too would have that military manufacturing capabilities if our country had participated in a world war 60 years ago.necessity is mother of intention

we did participate in 2 world wars on many fronts.It's not like
we have fallen behind if the government makes a commitment
then many things can get done. In MRCA we tested 6 of the
top warplane platforms in the world in many areas did we not
learn anything from this??
 
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Pakistan can sure overhaul the IAF, provided the US keeps supplying the same free!
 
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We will be losing 13 squadrons of Mig-21s while adding 8 squadrons of MKI during that time(2012-17). That's the primary reason why squadron strength will fall.

While there is an issue when it comes to numbers, there is no doubt that it has little effect on capability. While we lose a Mig-21 squadron every few months, we add over one MKI every month. Considering IAF's very statement saying one MKI does the work of an entire squadron of Mig-21s, we have very little to be worried about.
Russians had offered a second sukhoi plant, why was it rejected?
 

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The PAF may have the fighters but they lack spares for those fighters and INDIA on the other hand have the capability to make our own spares or the money to buy from other countries. At the time of war the need of spares rises and were will the PAF go to get them, without any money?
 

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they might overtake with more no of serving f7 and mirage3/5 at place.

in the end paf will be having jf-17 j-10 and f-16 (if things goes the way they are going, usa will help India against f-16 not because of friendship but to teach pakistan a lesson for its dual faced policy in afghanistan.)
first let them complete the induction of 250 or so jf-17 at first place then comes j-10.
already talks are on to invest more on j-10 than jf-17 so i guess the no could be capped at 150 if they want to increase j-10 no to 200( agreeing pakistan will definitely go for 150 j-10).

this is compared with India Air Force 270 su-30 mki, 126 rafale and yet to come tejas, pak/fa and upgraded mirage and mig-29s.

even if we take out other planes from race is upgraded and under development fighters from iaf and f-16s from paf then we will be having 400 paf fighters(250 jf17 and 150 j10) against nearly 400(270 su30mki and 126 rafale) fighters of iaf.

now intelligent people can understand who stands a chance and who doesnt
 

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they might overtake with more no of serving f7 and mirage3/5 at place.

in the end paf will be having jf-17 j-10 and f-16 (if things goes the way they are going, usa will help India against f-16 not because of friendship but to teach pakistan a lesson for its dual faced policy in afghanistan.)
first let them complete the induction of 250 or so jf-17 at first place then comes j-10.
already talks are on to invest more on j-10 than jf-17 so i guess the no could be capped at 150 if they want to increase j-10 no to 200( agreeing pakistan will definitely go for 150 j-10).

this is compared with India Air Force 270 su-30 mki, 126 rafale and yet to come tejas, pak/fa and upgraded mirage and mig-29s.

even if we take out other planes from race is upgraded and under development fighters from iaf and f-16s from paf then we will be having 400 paf fighters(250 jf17 and 150 j10) against nearly 400(270 su30mki and 126 rafale) fighters of iaf.

now intelligent people can understand who stands a chance and who doesnt
Care to explain how they will pay for ~250 J-17(with Russian engines and French(??) avionics mind you LOL!!) and 150(where that figure came from God knows!!) J-10's...
The bill will run upto several 10's of billions + maintainance....

Pakis have no money to buy 30 jf 17's never mind all the other rubbish...

I guess they will also go for 50 Scorpenes, 500 Leclerc's, 500 Leopard2A6's, 50 Il78's, 2000 F-16's, 500 F-35's...

Wow Those stupid and poor Indians stand no chance huh??
 
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