Pakistan again seeks US intervention on Kashmir

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  1. Rajendra91

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    Pakistan on Monday once again sought US intervention in settling the Kashmir dispute complaining that India was hesitant whenever it wanted to talk on the vexed issue.Speaking to accompanying Pakistani journalists after holding a meeting with US Secretary of State John Kerry at the Hague, on the sidelines of a two-day nuclear summit, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said the Kashmir issue should be resolved.
    In comments aired on TV channels in Hague, he said India hesitated every time Pakistan approached it for talks on Kashmir.
    “We have said somebody else can also help us in resolving the issue. But India is also not in agreement on that. So how can talks proceed? How can such issues be solved? I said this is for the US also to think. When you tell us that normal relations should be there, we understand that but your role comes in also.
    “If we cannot solve an issue with India bilaterally, a third power should be there to play a role in moving the dialogue forward,” Sharif said.
    This is not the first time that Pakistan has sought US intervention in solving the Kashmir issue.
    Ahead of his meeting with US President Barack Obama in October last year, Sharif had sought US intervention to settle the Kashmir issue.
    However, a senior US official had then said, “On Kashmir, our policy has not changed an iota”.
    In India, the government and political parties had condemned Sharif’s comment in one voice.
    External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid had said, “Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India – there is no question of anybody interfering with this idea. The US knows this very well”.
    Even though Pakistan is keen that the US intervenes, Washington has repeatedly said it is for India and Pakistan to determine the “pace, scope and character” of their cross-border dialogue.
    The Pakistan Prime Minister is accompanied on the trip by his Special Assistant Syed Tariq Fatemi and Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry.
     
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  3. angeldude13

    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

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    Al-bakistanis are bunch of cry babies and always ask there daddy to help them against India.
     
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    :rofl::lol::scared2: USA is coming for Crimea-2 . i.e, Kashmir:thumb:
     
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    Yet another futile effort by Bakis :rofl:

    Till today Allah couldn't help Bakis on Kashmir, leave aside Amreekans helping Bakis on Kashmir.

    Bakis,

    Kashmir Hindustan ka tha, Hindustan ka hai aur hamesha Hindustan ka rahega.

    Kya kar loge? :eyebrows:
     
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    Dehati Aaurat................
     
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    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    I add little more " whahiyaat auraat"
     
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    May be Sharif wants more $$$ from papa Amerika ,

    Poor pakis try to cry infornt of 50 world leaders, ki Kashmir ki toffee milage but instead world leaders ne lollipop de Dena ha
     
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    thethinker Senior Member Senior Member

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    Kashmir has oil fields?? :)
     
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    well if not oil fields but strategic location for karakoram highway linking china to gawadar. also major paki river originates from kashmir.

    but dont worry amerika and EU and arab will not interveen in kashmir

    pakistan will remain dehati and wahiyat aurat

    @ neo
     
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  11. Neo

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    Suipid move by Sharif to seek help from America who is arming India against Pakistan.

    IoK does not need Pakistani or international intervention to liberate itself from India. She's become strong enough to fight her own struggle against state sponsored terrorism under the AFSPA ticket. It's become than clear that India only wants her land, not her people.
    She's a vulcano that can go off anytime in near future.
     
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    "Vulcano" What's That ? :ranger:
     
  13. Neo

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    Please ignore my typo mistakes, I usually post from my iphone without reviewing my post.
     
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    Difficult to judge if US will help out here. Especially when the media tune over there changes to this :

    Did the U.S. Choose the Wrong Allies in the Global Fight Against Terrorism?

    http://news.yahoo.com/did-u-choose-wrong-allies-global-fight-against-224216336.html


    Taliban forces in Afghanistan hit hard last week, unleashing three separate attacks across the country that left at least 37 people, including two dozen civilians and several women and children, dead. The most high-profile attack occurred Thursday evening when four pistol-wielding men ran through Kabul’s upscale Serena Hotel killing nine people before Afghan police gunned them down. Two more attacks—one in the eastern city of Jalalabad and the other in the northern Faryab Province—left 10 police officers and 18 civilians dead.

    The attacks, part of a threatened increase in assaults in the weeks leading up to national elections, came even as senior Taliban officials in neighboring Pakistan continued to negotiate with the Kabul government. Pakistan, which for years served as a sort of rearguard base from which Taliban fighters fought the Soviet Union during the 1980s, and later as a refuge for various factions during the Afghan civil war that culminated in the misguided Islamicists' harboring of al Qaida as it planned and carried out 9/11, has in recent years become its own battleground as rival Islamist groups violently vie for power and influence there.

    It has never been easy to unravel the myriad tribal, cultural, political, and religious ties that bind the two countries. But one thing that's been strongly suspected, if not entirely clear, is support for the Taliban from factions within Pakistan's own government. These suspicions culminated last week when Carlotta Gall, a New York Times reporter who spent the last decade reporting from both countries, published a scathing account alleging that Pakistan’s intelligence service, the ISI, has not only been supporting the Taliban for years but probably knew about Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts long before he was killed by Navy SEALs in 2011.

    I spent almost a year as a reporter in Afghanistan and Pakistan right after 9/11. Even then, suspicion about the ISI’s involvement with the rise of the Taliban Al Qaida was brewing. I wanted to hear how things had developed since, so last week I called Latif Afridi, whom I used to visit regularly when I lived in Peshawar in 2002. Afridi is a prominent leader in Pakistan’s National Party, which has long been outspoken in its opposition to the Taliban in both countries.

    “I’ve been talking about this for 10 years,” Afridi told me. “Unfortunately, the Americans have failed to either convince the ISI to stop, or have failed to persuade them to cooperate.” Apparently both, I thought.

    Afridi told me that the vast majority of support for the Taliban is rooted in Pakistan, something Gall’s reporting from both countries also revealed. “The only support for them is from Pakistan,” Afridi said. “They're being trained, supplied with weapons. Every person, every man and woman in this province, is convinced that it’s the army, the ISI, which has been doing all this, that they’re behind the destruction in Afghanistan and in Pakistan.”

    A key figure in the rise of the Taliban in both Afghanistan and Pakistan is Hamid Gul, a former head of the ISI and outspoken critic of American foreign policy in the region. Gul has for years, openly or covertly, supported efforts to strengthen the Taliban.

    Back in 2002, I spoke with Afghan General Rahim Wardak, who just last week withdrew from the presidential race. At the time, Wardak told me this of Gul: “When Hamid Gul was the head of the ISI, he had a lot of Arab fighters under him, including Osama bin Laden, so maybe they have some friendly contacts.”

    Gul denied this when I later interviewed him at his home. But Gul’s power within Pakistan and now, by extension, Afghanistan, is well established. In 2011, he helped establish the Defense of Pakistan Council, a coalition of right-wing, conservative, and mostly Islamist groups and individuals who advocate closing NATO supply routes through their country to Afghanistan, among other policies. Among its members is Maulana Sami ul Haq, called “the Father of the Taliban” and believed to be a close friend to Mullah Mohammed Omar, the fugitive leader of the Afghan Taliban and onetime friend and adviser to Osama bin Laden.

    “Hamid Gul is probably the biggest supporter of al Qaida in Pakistan right now,” says one well-placed Pakistani source who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal from terror groups. The source is familiar with the politics of Pakistan’s Northwest Frontier Province, where the Taliban harbors a good deal of support and U.S. drone strikes have targeted Taliban members while stoking resentments against America. Having worked with senior American officials on military and intelligence operations in the region, he adds about Gul: “He's still very, very powerful.”

    Taliban foe Afridi, who says that huge portions of his ancestral tribal land and villages were overrun by ISI-supported al Qaida and Taliban fighters last year, says America has pursued a wrongheaded policy in Pakistan for so long, and so intensively, that it may be too late.

    “It’s very unfortunate that the Americans have always been supporting dictatorships and the army here,” he told me. “They have made Pakistan into a mother of terrorism.”
     
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    'Volcano' like the movie.
     
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    Interestingly world is more concerned with pak nukes than Kashmir
     
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    Kashmir is a valley not volcano :)
     
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    same can be said for pakistan
     
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    Apparently Pakistan scored better in nuclear safety, one place above India.
     
  20. Neo

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    No, we are willing to settle for an independant Kashmir, an option that India will never accept.
    We only need water security from Kashmir.
     
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    The level of independence that you have given to AJK isn't it?
     

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