Pakistan: 48 killed as PIA plane crashes near Abbottabad

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Pakistan: 48 killed as PIA plane crashes near Abbottabad

All 48 people on board a PIA plane, including famous pop singer-turned-Islamic preacher Junaid Jamshed and three foreigners, were killed today as the aircraft crashed and burst into flames in a hilly area near Pakistan’s Abbottabad after facing engine problems. The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) plane PK-661 with 48 people, including Jamshed, his wife and Deputy Commissioner Chitral Osama Warraich, on board crashed in Saddha Batolni village near Pakistan Ordinance Factory, Havelian, while en route to Islamabad from Chitral in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.

The Civil Aviation Authority confirmed that there are no survivors. So far, 36 bodies have been recovered from the wreckage. The national carrier’s flight departed from Chitral around 3:30 PM and was expected to land at Islamabad’s Benazir Bhutto International Airport at around 4:40 PM. A PIA spokesman confirmed that the pilot of the ill-fated plane had given a ‘mayday’ distress call to traffic control before it went off the radar and crashed near the garrison town of Abbottabad.

PIA Spokesman Daniyal Gilani said there were 42 passengers, five crew members and one ground engineer on board. The plane manifest showed there were 31 men, 9 women and 2 infants on board the flight, including three foreigners. A senior aviation official said the aircraft suffered engine problems. Speaking to reporters at the Islamabad airport, Secretary Aviation Irfan Ilahi confirmed that the ATR-42 turboprob plane suffered engine problems.

“It is premature to say anything at the moment, but we know that the aircraft had engine problems,” he said. Aviation Herald, that reports daily about incidents and critical situations in civil aviation, also said the plane had “engine problems”. A PIA Spokesperson told Express News that the aircraft which was “nearly 10-years-old” was “in good condition”.
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All 48 people on board a PIA plane, including famous pop singer-turned-Islamic preacher Junaid Jamshed and three foreigners, were killed today as the aircraft crashed and burst into flames in a hilly area near Pakistan’s Abbottabad after facing engine problems.

Interesting combo and keywords...

1. Abbottabad (the Mecca of Terrorism where OBL was killed by US )
2. Pop singer-turned-Islamic Preacher (what does he sing? Koran in Yo Yo Habshi style???)

 

[raja696]

Mann kali 60000 targeted that plane en killed them... wtf pakis cant sit back... should use nukamuhmoma bomb...

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Mann kali 60000 targeted that plane en killed them... wtf pakis cant sit back... should use nukamuhmoma bomb...

Only heard of Kali 50000. Fom where this 60000 came in? any update do you have?

 

[republic_roi97]

“nearly 10-years-old” was “in good condition”.

I don't know much about aircrafts but, people even change their cars after 5-10 years of use, this is a damn flying coffin.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Porkies have a great record of planes falling down. Nothing new.

 

[Bornubus]

Mann kali 60000 targeted that plane en killed them... wtf pakis cant sit back... should use nukamuhmoma bomb...

Man what would the difference between Indians and Porkies if we also started to believe in such garbage conspiracy theories ?

 

[Project Dharma]

Koran in Yo Yo Habshi style???

Too funny ...........................................................

 

[aditya10r]

I don't know much about aircrafts but, people even change their cars after 5-10 years of use, this is a damn flying coffin.

I upgrade my pc every year,.....................

Kitne bhikhari hain yeh lo

 

[raja696]

Man what would the difference between Indians and Porkies if we also started to believe in such garbage conspiracy theories ?

Lol u know its not true .... but pakis will accuse us anyway... kali60000 doesn't exist.

 

[Spindrift]

The ghost of OBL strikes back

 

[Project Dharma]

I upgrade my pc every year,.....................

Kitne bhikhari hain yeh lo

Their pilots cannot fly passenger planes, how will they fly fighter jets

 

[aditya10r]

Their pilots cannot fly passenger planes, how will they fly fighter jets

Allah taala ki madad aur dua se f-16 bhi ura hi lenge............

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Austrian, Chinese victims of PIA crash worked on hydropower project for Andritz group

VIENNA: Pakistan on Thursday mourned the 47 victims of its deadliest plane crash in four years, among them a famed-rockstar-turned-evangelist, two infants and three foreigners, as officials sought to pinpoint the cause of the disaster.

The two Austrians and a Chinese man who died in a plane crash in Pakistan worked for Austrian engineering group Andritz on a hydropower project in the north of the country, a spokesperson for the company said on Wednesday.

Flight PK-661: No survivors

None of the 47 passengers on the Pakistan International Airlines flight heading for Islamabad survived the plane’s crash into a mountain in northern Pakistan.

Andritz, an Austrian blue chip company with around 25,500 employees worldwide, builds machinery and provides services for hydro-power plants and the steel and paper industry. The spokesperson added that the Chinese man had worked for Andritz’s Chinese unit.

“Our compassion is with the families, whom we will give any support,” he said.

Foreign tourists increasingly flock to Chitral every year, besides thousands of domestic visitors, as Pakistan emerges from years of violence caused by a Taliban insurgency. A member of Chitral’s traditional royal family, his wife and family were among the dead, besides a Chitral administration official, Osama Ahmad Warraich, whose wife and infant daughter also died.

Islamabad-bound PIA aircraft crashes near Abbottabad, no survivors

Engine trouble was initially believed responsible, but many questions remain, stirring new worries about the safety record of money-losing state carrier Pakistani International Airlines.

The ATR-42 aircraft involved in the crash had undergone regular maintenance, including an “A-check” certification in October, airline chairman Muhammad Azam Saigol said. “I want to make it clear that it was a perfectly sound aircraft,” Saigol said, ruling out technical or human error. The aircraft appeared to have suffered a failure in one of its two turboprop engines just before the crash, he said, but this would have to be confirmed by an investigation.

“I think there was no technical error or human error,” he told a news conference late on Wednesday. “Obviously there will be a proper investigation.”

Outpourings of grief erupted online soon after flight PK-661 smashed into the side of a mountain near the town of Havelian, in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, late on Wednesday afternoon, after taking off from the mountain resort of Chitral. It crashed just 50 km short of its destination, the international airport in Islamabad, the capital.

Profile: The enigma that was Junaid Jamshed

Safety concerns

The aircraft, made by French company ATR in 2007, had racked up 18,739 flight hours since joining PIA’s fleet that year. Its captain, Saleh Janjua, had logged more than 12,000 flight hours over his career, the airline said.

Concerns are growing over air safety in Pakistan as media in recent years have reported near-misses following overshot runways, engines catching fire and landing gear deployment failures. In the worst such disaster, in 2010, all 152 people on board were killed when a passenger plane operated by airline Air Blue crashed in heavy rain near Islamabad. Two years later, all 127 aboard were killed when a plane operated by Bhoja Air crashed near Islamabad.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Pakistani airlines: Unsafe at any altitude

The near misses are a better indicator of the airlines' safety culture.—Creative commons
This article was originally published in 2015.

Even after hours of smooth flying, you shouldn’t get very comfy. Why? Well, if you were to believe the world’s foremost authority on airline safety, Professor Arnold Barnett of MIT, the riskiest segment of the flight, i.e., the landing, is still ahead of you.

The hundred-plus passengers and crew flying Shaheen Airlines learnt the hard lesson when their plane crash-landed at the Lahore airport.

After a mostly uneventful flight from Karachi, the plane came down with a big thud, forcing many to recite prayers.

Also read: CAA grounds four aircrafts of of Shaheen Air

It has not yet emerged on the national radar, but the dismal safety record of the Pakistani airlines is an open secret.

While private airlines operating out of Pakistan are too small to appear on international airline safety rankings, the national flag carrier, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), though makes several hit lists but all for the wrong reasons. It stands out as an outlier for poor safety record.

A comparative study of airline safety revealed that PIA has consistently underperformed on airline safety, and it is one of the world’s most disaster-prone airlines.

Nate Silver is a famous American data scientist who wrote for the New York Timesand manages fivethirtyeight.com, a blog that specialises in using data and analytics to offer informed commentary on political and socio-economic outcomes.

In July 2014, Mr. Silver addressed the question “Should travelers avoid flying airlines that have had crashes in the past?”

The simple answer is yes.

Mr. Silver relied on the Aviation Safety Network’s database. He obtained the safety data from 1985 to 2014. And compared safety record over two periods, i.e., 1985 to 1999 and 2000 to 2014.

He wanted to see if the airlines that performed poorly earlier continued to do so later. The goal was to determine if some airlines were consistently better or worse than the rest for safety.

The airline safety data provided information on incidents (near misses), fatal incidents, and fatalities. Since airlines differ widely for fleet size and operations, he normalised the airline safety data by the available seat kilometers (ASK), which is calculated by multiplying the number of available seats by the kilometers flown by an airline.

Also read: Crash-landing — How was an aircraft with faulty landing gear allowed to fly?

This normalisation is needed to ensure that when we compare airlines, we are not essentially penalising airlines that fly significantly more than the rest. Conversely, we would not like to favour an airline with a limited fleet and less travel.

The other important distinction to acknowledge is that airlines' safety should not be based on a comparison of fatalities or fatal incidents. This is because even for the worst performing airlines, fortunately, fatal incidents are not an every-day occurrence.

The near misses are a better indicator of the airlines’ safety culture.

Let me explain this with an example: You might know of a friend who is a high-risk driver. He speeds, does not observe traffic regulations, and takes chances during driving. That individual will have several near misses.

However, the number of times a person could expire in a traffic accident, irrespective of how cautious or irresponsible one is in driving, remains 1. For this reason, it is better to compare near misses, because near misses identify a behavioural trait rather than an outcome.

Mr. Silver compared near misses for each airline over the two periods, 1985-1999 and 2000-2014. And guess which airline stood out to be consistently high risk prone over the two periods: Pakistan International Airlines.

“There are also a few major outliers in the chart: two are Pakistan International Airlines and Ethiopian Airlines, which have had a persistently high rate of incidents,” wrote Mr. Silver.

Source: FiveThirtyEight.com

The government, especially the regulators at the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), has been negligently silent over the dismal safety records of Pakistan-based airlines.

It is time for a serious introspection on the state of airline safety in Pakistan.

In fact, one wonders why this matter is not yet an utmost priority for regulators, especially when this lax attitude towards air safety is not just restricted to the national airliner, but also permeates Pakistan’s private carriers, the only other alternatives to flying for Pakistanis.

 

[musalman]

Indians seems to enjoy the death of 48 civilians in an air crash. Shows what kind of people are these Indians.

 

[aditya10r]

Indians seems to enjoy the death of 48 civilians in an air crash. Shows what kind of people are these Indians.

A little correction
48 dead terrorists

 

[airtel]

Indians seems to enjoy the death of 48 civilians in an air crash. Shows what kind of people are these Indians.

2 months ago, pakistani hackers snooped into Indian civilian plane's communication systems and played "Dil Dil Pakistan" & tried to crash Indian civilian Aircraft & were Enjoying (YES every Paki is a Terrorist ) , and now the singer of "Dil Dil Pakistan" Junaid Jamshed is killed in PIA plane crash .........along with other Paki terrorists .

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Indians seems to enjoy the death of 48 civilians in an air crash. Shows what kind of people are these Indians.

No we never enjoy the death of civilians like you guys. You made songs on Lakhvi for bombay killing.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Indians seems to enjoy the death of 48 civilians in an air crash. Shows what kind of people are these Indians.

Like shameless Pakistanis were jumping over death of our soldiers in Pathankot & Uri attack.

 

[3deffect]

so sad but many of them not meet with 72 virgins coz they burn in hell