Pak used US anti-terror military aid to fight India: Former diplomat

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    Most of the American military aid to Islamabad for counterinsurgency has gone into buying equipment to fight India, a former US diplomat has told lawmakers as he described Pakistan as a country which is “on the edge in many ways of being a failed state”.
    Testifying before a Congressional Committee, Ronald Neumann, former US Ambassador to Afghanistan, said the State Department on Terrorism ranks Pakistan as having the highest level of terrorist incidents of any country in the world.
    “Almost all of those incidents are not related to any aspect of Afghanistan. Many of them take place in areas that have nothing to do with the FATA area,” he said.
    “It is an economy which basically faces a crisis because of demographic pressures, because this is a country that spends less on education than virtually every country in the world. It is a country which is always on the edge in many ways of being a failed state,” Neumann said.
    “It’s also a country where we don’t seem to tie our strategy in Afghanistan. It virtually went unmentioned in the quadrennial defence review. There’s no mention of it in the West Point speech. And we’re cutting aid very seriously,” he said.
    “Most of that military aid never went to counterinsurgency; it went to buying equipment to fight India. And as is the case in Afghanistan, on the economic side, in spite of efforts by the Congress over the last 10 years, we have never had a single report from USAID to explain what the benefits or impact of the economic aid to Pakistan has been. And quite frankly it’s not quite clear what the (aid) programme did,” Neumann said in response to a question from Congressman Joe Wilson.
    Michael O’Hanlon, director of research for Brookings Institution’s Foreign Policy Program, warned that with the collapse of Afghanistan, a group like Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was behind the Mumbai terrorist attacks of 2008, could have another place from where it could base its operations.
    “At the moment it may not need that because historically of course the Pakistani security forces have tolerated and even helped Lashkar-e-Taiba. But there hasn’t been another attack like Mumbai in the last six years, and there could come a point where LeT wants more freedom of manoeuvre to operate beyond the controls of the Pakistani state,” he said.
    “So I would worry that an Afghanistan in chaos could provide the sanctuary not only for the groups that might threaten us directly but for groups that might want to start an Indo-Pakistan conflict, and specifically Lashkar-e-Taiba,” O’Hanlon said. Catherine Dale, specialist in international security at Congressional Research Service said stability in Afghanistan is important from a US national security interest perspective for multiple reasons.
    “One is the threat of violent extremism, violent extremists. But in addition, the South Asia region raises other concerns for us. One is the prospect, and a very scary one, of nuclear proliferation in Pakistan, which could be triggered by state instability or collapse,” she said.
    “A stable Afghanistan could go a long way to lowering the temperatures and the tensions in the Afghan-Pakistani relationship and perhaps bolster state stability in Pakistan, and that’s something worth thinking about as we make future decisions,” Dale said.
    “One more facet is the Pakistani-Indian relationship and the prospect there of a potential nuclear standoff. Afghanistan has traditionally served as grounds for proxy contestation between those two states. Again, a stable Afghanistan could go a long way to lowering those temperatures and reducing that tension,” Dale said.

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    Re: Pak used US anti-terror military aid to fight India: Former diplom

    And pakis wanted drone tech to fight against taliban

    No wonder, despite billion $$ aid to Pakistan meant for WOT " Noor-A-Pakistan"" osama was found in Pakistan



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    The duplicity of Pakistan in every action of theirs is well known.
     
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    Sir, few master piece of Pakistan duplicity

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    Re: Pak used US anti-terror military aid to fight India: Former diplom

    Hunt with the hounds and run with the hare.

    'Gul', in my language is a funny lie! Or a funny Bakwas.
     
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    Sir, I feel over smart foolishness of gul of late 80ties landed Pakistan in wat ever situation they are in . and later mushy added fuel in fire of that foolisness..


    Gul is also responsible for kashmiri jihad of late 80ties
     
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    Gul is a fool and the typical jihadi that today swarms the Pak Army like dung beetles.

    I have not said that. It was the lady Christine Fair.
     
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    Re: Pak used US anti-terror military aid to fight India: Former diplom

    inspite of knowing this still US provides aid of billions of usd to pak :/
    in 1 hand they see towards india to contain china and on other hand pakistan to contain india.
     
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    Re: Pak used US anti-terror military aid to fight India: Former diplom

    pakistan is the biggest liar and back-stabing nation but US OF A is its bastard father, what does America think..do terrorists have fighters , subs and other sophisticated weaponry ? the answer is no. US fed a dog to keep Indians away, but the dog has now turned rabid and hell bound on biting its master....in fact it was a very cleaver planing from paki hukmarans (think that's what they call their decision makers) to deceive an arrogant country who thinks that they call the shot in the world. but again the americans knew from the start that it was a gamble to back pakistan, their underestimated trick is costing them more and making this world more hellhole than it was before. but you can expect the Americans to pull up a perfect poker face, even if their ham is on fire.
     
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    "Recycled economics"

    Also Pakistan might be preparing for something big with Afghanistan in its sights. They will probably try do something on Siachen (like Kargil but more concentrated on Siachen). A PRC "Intrusion" into Ladakh also timed to try and legitimize such Siachen misadventure. Pakis do not sit idle for such long time its odd and especially with such legitimate discomfiture. They also have to "show-off" to justify their existence. Will they do something on Siachen to be a catalyst for internal reconciliation of terror apparatus and civilian control and Paki army rejuvenation. Will Siachen misadventure also be a memorandum of understanding with NATO and West by Pakis to say they have done it because they want to get a bigger pie into Afghanistan and reduce India dominance (even though that wont work). If Pakis are thwarted in Siachen they will achieve what they wanted by the heightened conflict tension alone. I would argue there is no way that Pakis can enter Siachen from POK side. But what about dropping in from the Air and even from other sides and later saying it was done from POK side.

    Pakistan history has shown when it gets huge discomposure they usually rely on external exuberance to the reduce the legitimately labelled and deserved grief. Discomposure can be internal institutions and can even be individual. There has been too much finger pointing at Pakistan the Pakis and Paki Army that will be argued internally. If Siachen happens this time Sharif will lead from the front??
     

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