Pak shells India, India retaliates

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    Heaviest Pakistani shelling in decades devastates hamlet in Jammu
    PTI | Oct 6, 2014, 05.08 PM IST

    ARNIA BORDER (Jammu): Blood stained beds, torn off rooftops and windows punctured by bullets and splinters of mortar bombs are a mute testimony to the Pakistani shelling in the border hamlet where smell of cordite and gunpowder hangs in the air.

    The overnight attacks by Pakistani forces that has left five people dead have triggered panic among the border villagers.

    "We have not seen such an attack of mortar bombs and heavy firing in the past several decades, even not during the August ceasefire violations. It was the worst attack on civilian areas", Kulbushan Kumar, a resident of Arnia town, told PTI.

    Such was the intensity of the firing and shelling that 82mm mortar shells landed in Mahasha da Kote and Arnia town, which is around 5km away from the international border in Jammu district.

    Carcasses of animals killed due to splinter injuries are also seen strewn in Kaku di Kotha and other areas.

    "Arnia town, which we considered a safe place, has also been hit by scores of mortars that killed one person Ram Lal," Kumar said.

    Most of the houses in Mahasha Kote, Pindi, Koku di Kotha and Channa village were hit by the bullets and splinters of mortar shells, which tore roof tops and walls of several houses besides breaking windows and doors.

    "It is the worst attack. Five people have been killed and 26 others were injured in firing and shelling in Arnia belt," subdivisional police officer Devender Singh told PTI.

    Singh, who led the police rescue team and shifted the injured to the hospital even as firing continued, said, "Such firing has not been seen in the past. We have evacuated border villagers to safer places. Pakistan cannot be trusted."

    Bamroo Devi, who lost four members of her family in Mahasha Kote village, is seen weeping besides the blood stained beds in the compound of her house which was hit by mortars.

    "What was our fault that they killed our family members?" she says.

    A pall of gloom prevails in this village with people consoling those who have lost their near and dear ones in the firing.

    "The state and central government should learn from this tragedy and ensure permanent relocation of the critical border villages located close to IB," says Sarwan Singh.

    The neighbours of Ram Paul, who was killed in the shelling by Pakistani rangers, are still in a state of shock.

    "How can the shells reach us here as the area is 6km away from the border? It has triggered fear among us," Hardev said.

    The bloodbath in the compound of Ram's house is now haunting the villagers, who are mulling to shift from the area.

    "We want to now shift to safer areas," he said. Sunil Kumar, who lost a relative, said, "Around midnight we woke up to the sound of shelling which rattled windows and doors."

    "Huddled in one corner of the room, we watched the house being hit by all sides by splinters and some of them pierced the windows but we all escaped unhurt," he said.

    Heaviest Pakistani shelling in decades devastates hamlet in Jammu - The Times of India
     
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    You guys in Brazil are too lucky to not have a such a neighbour like Pakistan.
    What is the general consensus in Brazil when Pakistan is concerned?
     
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    Our ignorant and ingenuous people know badly what happens in our own country even. So outside of Brazil people knows almost nothing of what happens. I would be happy if I find a Brazilian citizen that know a country called Pakistan, yet more if he knows Kashmir, and surprised if he be capable of understand the nature of Kashmir issue.

    At government level, our tradition is dont interference in inner issues of other countries. When conflict between two countries or two factions occurs, we only release notes regretting violence and urging the parties to talk.
     
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    Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    considering the sheer number of pakistan's ceasefire voilations,sponsoring terrorist activities,there economic warfare on us (fake currency) and providing cover for terrorist infiltrations, India needs to come up with a permenant solution of pakistan.


    my view on permenant solution of pakistan problem -
    plan A

    1) build mass nuke bunkers just like how US did when cold war was at its peak.
    2) go allin and go blitzkreig penetrate and hold some 50 - 100 km inside pak.
    3) if met with heavy resistance then deploy air forces to bomb there military formations/camps and create a blockade on pakistan sea route with help of our navy.
    4) if pakistan goes nuclear by using tactical missiles on our forces then just mass nuke them in return. not just there military HQ's but economic zones. kill the paki elites.

    we might go 5-10 yrs back coz of war but pak will go to stoneage.


    plan B

    establish strong presence in afghanistan, build a hideout for TTP and baloch militants. train and arm them. fan and flame there idealogical warfare against pak.
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    Talibunnies are very cheap to maintain. India's best bet is using our economic muscle to fund groups that eat Pakistan from within, while keeping Pakistanis drunk on their own religion. Revisionism and Islamism are oxygen for the Pakistani state. But those two can be easily turned to our advantage, and made to horribly backfire on the Pakistani state.
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    All that is rosy and sweet, but this is what I would do if I were pakistan.... I would activate a few sleeper cells who would create communal clashes in India, pay the leftist media to fan an anti-hindu media blitz and gain sympathy for foreign jihadi fighters to engage the army in a nasty bloody urban war.

    Next, I will invite China to take over pok (it is lost anyways to pakistan) and act as a deterrent to India.

    ...and last but not the least, use the nukes if the IA is within visibility of islamabad....

    pakistan is destroyed eventuality, but India will have to forever deal with post war toxicity ten times of what US went through after vietnam.

    To do what you propose, we first need to cleanse our system of the jihadis and the nascent islamic extemism, end naxalism, end the commie infested media houses and bring a strong sense of national pride. Maybe then we have a chance to do what you say.

    War is the problem, never the answer.

     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    je baat !!!

     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    And you wonder why we think Indians are delusional?
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    We wonder if your kind are capable of thinking.
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    we delusional? :lol: ok heres something for you to wonder and think about. decide for yourself who is delusional and hypocrite.

    Issue with Pakistan is it has become an American slave and killing its own people by Drone for American Money.. It has become worlds 12th failed state and cant even give polio to its own kids..A nation that cant take care itself,should make the following issue fixed before concerning about Kashmir.. Pakistan is an insult to Islam also. Recently Arabs banned marrying Pakistanis... Some facts about Pakis you never heard about.. All from International media and Pak media.. None from Indian Media ..#############################################################1) Pakistanis say they are innocents when it comes to terrorism. Actual fact is Bin Laden ,Ajmal Kasab,Newyork Bomber,London bombers all were found/related to in Pakistan..It is worlds 12 th failed state (from Pak Channel :: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf4qLjQg6Wc)
    2)Pakistanis think they are Arabs but they are actually Indian Hindus converted to Islam.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Xqy_sHVWE
    3)Pakistanis worry about Indian Minority Muslims. Actually India made Muslims president,Vice president,IB chief, India gives reservation for Muslims.. You can see Muslims thrive in film industry, IT industries etc as main stream society..Population of Muslims in India tippled .. What about Pak Minority-policy on Hindus? They reduced less than 2% by Abduction ,forceful conversion etc.. Recently Hindus applied asylum to India
    Can a Pak Hindu becomes the custodian of higher positions in Pakistan? NO
    4)Pakistan is worlds 12th failed state but most of the online Paki talk like they are from Newyork (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8RNf0inCDw)
    5) Pakistanis claim that they won war with India. But actual fact is they failed all 4 wars.(from pak channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybioqLp7EVo).If you check independent source about the amount of land conquered and loss of weapons and army men you can easily understand.. Here I am attaching a video of how 90,000 Pak ppl surrendering to Indian army (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQb6mhgBVmE)
    6)Pakis think that their economy is good actually it is worst in the world where IMF is reluctant to give even loan
    7)Pak mock Indians(51%) on poverty by forgetting it's 48% poverty with aid money..If Aid money gone,it will be 80%. India's poverty is decreasing by food security program and minimum work program which worth 10000 crores and by 2017 it will reduce poverty to 21%. How much Pakistanis govt spends for poverty ?nothing. Poverty in Pakistan increasing..
    8)Pakistanis mock Indians about slums but world's largest slum is in Karachi and it is called oriangi town (http://blogs.wsj.com/.../in-asias-largest-slum.../)
    9) Pakistanis mock Indian about AIDS. But in Pakistan AIDS and Polio cases are increasing while in India it is reduced (http://www.dawn.com/.../pakistan-se.....)(http://www.bmj.com/content/335/7610/67.2)
    10)Pakistanis do tall claim about their military and nuclear bombs. Actually Indians military budget is more than entire pork budget. India made advancement in nuclear tech by reactors,submarines etc..Pork still multiplies their old stolen nuclear stuff lol and constantly make tall claims . If they are adavanced why they cant even make reactor by them-self,,Why they are becoming Gini pigs of CHina for nuclear reactor?(http://www.thethirdpole.net/scientists-worry-as-chinese.../)
    11)International reputation :: Indians are 40% in silicon valley,CEO of Microsoft etc. are NRIs..NRIs made India proud.You take any top universities MIT,Standford u can find an Indian IITian in top 5 in class.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qht2ReRubP0).But NRP of Pakis started terror camp where ever they go and made life miserable to other Asians.. example pak origin Anjum chaudari in UK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMqRKfwrn9Q)
    12)Pakis hate India but they only watch Indian movies and their theaters are dominated by Indian movies even a crap one ..They copy and run behind Indian stars.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15-McJNB2R4) ..They cant even have a function with out Bollywood music. In USA here they say they are Indians because of the ill reputation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jJZ3SepAg)
    13) Pakistan claims so much pride in nationality. But in reality it is an American slave.It even kills its own people by USA drone shamelessly for aid money ..It lives by Aid money..It is an international beggar(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn2eQB7L4FM)
    14) Pakistan says they fight against terror...But its Army runs terror camp..A person like Hafeez saeed who has red corner alert and bounty runs free in Pakistan . More than 140 terror camps are in Pak. Pak kids want to become a famous terrorist while nations kids want to become Dr or Engineer . It is place Taliban runs free and killer of a Governor received by rose in court lol
    15)Pakis have high ego . They always watch the shoulder of Indians....When Indian sent rocket to mars Pak sent kachara 60 mile missile as competition that tooo Chinese ;. lol...They didnt digest the fact the that mission now itself got the money back by contracts from canada etc for satellite launch...They made TC shows to discredit it and even compared with their 60 mile chineese painted rocket...(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrnGg35H7EI)
    16)Pak call Indians rapist while they have rape cases like Muktahr mai case where no justice happened . Mullahs rapes boys and teenage girls..No Action at all...When Delhi rape happened Indian came out protested and gave punishment.. In pork no such case recently a small boy even raped. PAK law says there needs to be 6 eye witness for getting justice lol..(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhtaran_Bibi). Pak has reported the most cases of dead body rape in the world..(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYJP5zaEbaE)
    17)pakis claim they are strict Islamic people .But they are number one in world for watching Animal ,Gay porn on internet and it is the place where most Muslims die by terrorism,blast etc even in mosques..It is the place where most of the shias and ahmedis die..(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg0H0Q3t4dE)
    18) India and other asian countries slowly recoverying from the effects of British loot by Poverty alleviation programs worth more than 10000crores etc. But in Pak no such thing...Always shamlessly beg infront of other nations with begging bowl. All countries have good and bad in it..But Pak is the only place in the world where u hear bad news only such that terrorism,deadbody rapes,polio killings,faield state etc
    19) Pakis talk about human rights in Kashmir, but they forget they killed 30 lak Bangleashs and made 3 lak illegal kids in 1971 before surrendering to India. They always for get what they do in Baloochistan

    pakistan is a liabilty and nuisance value for the whole world.
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    Is that all you can come up with? :lol:
    Try something delusional, just think the Indian way. :laugh:
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    Just saw That u have started beging from Bangladesh for At least sending school cricket team to pak. Is this a Pakistani way or u can go lower then this?
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    I have to keep it easy deliberately, keeping in mind the poster I am responding to. If the response is higher than your cognitive power, the cause of replying will be lost.

    Now, if complete sentence is too hard for you to decipher, I am ready to talk in phrases.
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    I rather prefer your delusional thoughts so go on with the mental masturbation of destroying Pakistan. Tell us how India will survive and recover from a nuclear exchange within days. :laugh:
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    Arming the villagers can also be a possible solution. after all they have a right to defend themselves and help IA alongside.
     
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    Ex pak air chief.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5mKYV4ccU
     
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    LOL! Polio affects brain? Or is it a combination of Polio and Brain eating Amoeba?

    But, I feel bad for the Amoeba. Must have remained hungry, as there is not much brain to eat within the Paki skull. :shocked:
     
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    Re: Permenant solution to pakistani menace

    One would wonder what would have Pakistan accomplished had they focused on developing their country rather than sponsoring terrorism and trying to make India bleed through a thousand cuts.
    Would have surely been better for their people than what it is now.
     
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    And what have you got to become delusional?
    Mad cow desease?
     

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