Pak moves warships from Karachi

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  1. nrj

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    Islamabad, Aug 5 (PTI): The Pakistan Navy has moved its main battleships out of the Mehran naval base in Karachi to the Makran coast in Balochistan.

    It claimed that there were “all-time high security threats” in Karachi.

    The warships were sent away from their main base in Karachi to Ormara in Balochistan as a “precautionary measure”. It comes after the 16-hour terrorist siege of its main naval airbase, PNS Mehran, on May 22, the Express Tribune newspaper quoted its sources as saying.

    During the siege, two P3C Orion airplanes — which were prized naval assets — were destroyed and the 10 security personnel were killed.

    Since that attack, the main battleships have been stationed in Ormara, sources told the daily.

    The navy chief ordered the immediate shifting of the entire fleet after the attack on PNS Mehran in view of the “all-time high security threats, which continue to loom even today”, an unnamed person familiar with the matter said.

    The attack on Mehran was carried out just weeks after three navy buses were bombed in Karachi on April 26 and April 28. However, another unnamed senior navy official said not the entire fleet but “definitely quite a few” warships had been moved to Ormara for security reasons.

    However, Karachi remains secure as there are other naval assets in place to guard the city, he said.

    A Pakistan Navy spokesperson declined to comment on the matter, saying the navy does not speak on “operational details”.

    Senior retired navy and air force officials welcomed the move and described the navy chief’s decision as “pragmatic” and “positive”.

    Retired Vice-Admiral Tanvir Ahmed said one of the golden rules in warfare, especially when facing a threat from an unknown enemy, is to disperse your assets in as many bases as possible.

    Ahmed said it would be wrong to say that the navy felt so threatened by terrorists that it had to move its warships away from their main harbour in Karachi.

    Retired Vice-Admiral Javed Iqbal said there is another important benefit of the move: “Unlike many navy bases in Karachi, such as Mehran, that are in the centre of residential areas, Ormara is a far off base,” he said.

    Pak moves warships from Karachi

    A country, running away from itself & still its not safe.
     
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  3. Ray

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    I believe that this Karachi naval base is right in the centre of habitation and hence vulnerable to the yahoos.

    That is why some of the the prized warships have been moved to the Balochistan coast where the threat is low.

    Valid.

    No idea of losing warships just to show all is well!

    And anyway, the terrorists are getting powerful day by day in Pakistan.
     
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    Isn't this kinda counterproductive, i mean isn't this just doing what the yahoos always wanted" to show that even the mighty Pakistani military is scared of their prowess"? Also the Baluchistan coast is not the safest place either, sooner or later Baluchistan is going to flare up once again and that is going to put the logistical lines for these bases under severe strain.
     
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    what about the boluch nationalists and other terror groups that lurke in Baluchistan?
     
  6. Pakistani Nationalist

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    the yahoos r criminals political criminals tht is.. and abt baluchistan... lol flare up? r u serious... It is a low intensity insurgency funded by u guys with no support... heck even badazz militants like pahari bugti r riding in PGDC vigo pick up trucks.
     
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    we have good track record, last time we did it and Banglesh was born, this time if we started doing it then major portion of your state will break away. Not much will left of Pakistan then.

    BTW those were PN guys who did this that is why the court marshal is going on. So we dont need to break you guys, you will fall/break from your own deeds.
     
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    @pakistaniNationalist- The real problem within your nation(one that you have chosen to conveniently ignore) is the struggle for supremacy between the ideological heirs of the qaid-e-azam Mohammed ali Jinnah and the heirs of his opponent the so called"godfather" of Pakistan Maulana Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi the founder of the Jamaat-e-Islami.Solve that and your ships will return to Karachi safe, solve that and India and Pakistan will be friends, solve that and Pakistan will rise to take it's rightful place at the body of nations.Truly i for one wish you could solve that.
     
  9. Pakistani Nationalist

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    @bengal raider.. maududi dont give a damn abt tht guy he was against the creation of Pakistan and was full of hate towards Quaid.......

    @Saya.. keep dreaming my frnd.... also the reason of the court marshal is not yet clear.... the poor ex-SSN commando was released also.... So we cant say anything so soon.
     
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    Any proof ?

    Btw, What else they need except IED and RPGs ?

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    AFAIK.
    Baloch rebels operate away from the coast, Makranis are Afro-Pakistanis by the way.

    Aren't those yahoos, freedom fighters ? but I digress.
    It is clear that Pakistan Navy brass is not confident about its own security. It has borne the brunt of attacks by jihadi elements, it is a soft target, has jihadi sympathizers amidst its ranks, and lets not forget Karachi is a warzone.

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    As for Bstan, maybe you are not aware but the insurgency is Bstan is a full blown one. There is a mass exodus of Punjabis from Balochistan, forgetting the missing persons issue?, nobody sings the Pakistani anthem in Bstan anymore, and most parts of Balochistan are a no-go area for a Pakistani esp a Punjabi Pakistani.

    Pakistan has routinely bought small baloch sardars, who are ever willing to rent out their loyalties for money and/or protection from the larger tribes. Nothing new.

    But the middle, student and educated class has taken over the freedom struggle from the sardars. Try buying them out.
     
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    I wouldn't want to comment on the rest. But I don't buy the part in "bold".
     
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    These pics r frm FATA............ The tank was hit by IEDs,suicide attackers and multiple RPG-29a and yet the crew survived.


    So instead of posting random stuff... try to get a lil knowledge abt stuff.
     
  14. Singh

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    Yep, truck burning happens only in Sindh/NWFP(KP/TribalAreas) and usually under ISI's orders exclusively as a pressure tactic.
     
  15. Pakistani Nationalist

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    And u have proof for this laughable accusation?
     
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    Ah you must be one of those "bought out" sardars then!!
     
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  18. Pakistani Nationalist

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    LOL.... Im not a sardar... my grandfather is..........And my father is a brig in the Pak army.
     
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    Do you realize then that your beloved Qaid was against a Nation on sharia law or a Nation whose founding principle would be Islam(By the way these two were maududi's idea)? He simply latched onto the Idea in the mid 1930's as a way to gain political office(he was against partition before that). Partition was always maududi's idea.
    The First Interim president of Pakistan's national assembly was a Hindu untouchable called"Joginder nath mandal". Jinnah was ambiguous in his statement when he said on the 11th of august 1947 that "make no mistake ,Pakistan is not a theocracy or anything like it". Jinnah actually asked a Hindu Poet from Lahore one Jagganath Azad to pen Pakistan's first National anthem.
    Like i said drop the Ideas of Maududi from your daily life and from Laws in your nation and Pakistan will be on it's way to stability.
     
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    @bengalraider... 100% agreed.
     
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    When Pakistani Army has actually used helicopter gunships against Baloch Nationalists, it can hardly be called low intensity. I do concede, however, that it is a rather subjective term and given the level of mayhem Pakistani backed terrorists can cause, the Baloch insurgency is, perhaps, indeed low intensity.
     
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