Pak is Russia’s ‘most important’ partner in South Asia: Putin

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  1. SpArK

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    Pak is Russia’s ‘most important’ partner in South Asia: Putin


    Moscow: Pakistan is Russia’s “most important” partner in South Asia and in the Islamic world, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Monday during a meeting with his Pakistani counterpart in St Petersburg.


    “Pakistan today is not an important trade and economic partner of Russia, but also most important Russian partner in South Asia and in the Islamic world,” Putin was quoted as saying at his meeting with Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani.


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    The two met on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) prime-ministerial meet in St Petersburg, ITAR-TASS reported.


    Welcoming Gilani, Putin said he was happy to see him in Russia and his hometown St Petersburg, though he had met him earlier in other countries.


    He also confirmed Moscow’s readiness to invest $500 million on the CASA-1000 electric transmission line to supply Pakistan with the Central Asian power from Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.


    With deterioration of Islamabad’s ties with Washington, Moscow is seeking a closer relationship with India’s arch-rival with the blessing of China — Pakistan’s “all-weather” friend.


    This Russian shift in South Asia policy where India had always been Moscow’s main partner is reflection of apprehensions over New Delhi-Washington relationship turning into a military-political alliance to block Russia and China’s interests in the region.


    Moscow also believes that the key to the stability in Russia’s soft belly — Central Asia — is ties with Islamabad, which has the potential of creating mischief along and inside the borders of the former Russian empire.


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    Pak is Russia’s ‘most important’ partner in South Asia: Putin | Firstpost
     
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  3. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Putin is of his rocker. Pakistan is the country that handed them their defeat in Afghanistan.
     
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    Finally the wish of many Pakistanis has come true. Now they can have topol-m and Borei class subs.:rofl::rofl:
     
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  5. Adux

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    Its called geo politics, Pakistan is giving United States the same treatment and Putin likes it, I have feeling russians leaning on to Pakchin alliance.
     
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    In the dawn newspaper it was quoted that putin said pakistan is an important partner and not most important partner, which is fine with me. You cannot compare india's relation with russia as the same with pakistan. India will always be 100 times ahead,
     
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    Perfect example of interests guiding national policies. Those who think Russia is India's all weather friend.

    Russia today has only one thing, some advanced tech but it's not the power it used to be. It wants to be relevant in international politics but it can't alone these days. So it might forge a partnership with china and as an extension Pakistan. Not good news for India IF India keeps dilly dallying on choosing its ally for the 21st century and then firmly going the whole hog. The neuter here or there thingy is going to hurt India bad.

    Pakistan will more than lap up opportunity of getting Russian arms. India need to be careful abou future policy.
     
  8. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I wonder if Russia will partner China.

    It would only mean having great a Fiery Dragon breathing down Russia neck.

    Given the penchant of China's desire to grab land and declaring earlier treaties as 'unequal', there are many areas in Russia that China covets and which by treaty has become Russia.

    Russia will assist China to that extent that it starts posing a threat to the US so much so that both get into an arms race with its consequences.

    Warming up with Pakistan with mere words is building up a base so that Russia can re-enter Afghanistan for economic gains, once the US leaves. This would be a prudent step since Pakistan controls the terrorist hordes that are running wild in Afghanistan.
     
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    Brigadier,

    The Russians have been allies with the Chinese before in 1969, and even gave them Nuclear tech. Nope, they dont have any issue with the Chinese, as well as border agreement is taken into account.
     
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    Pak is Russia’s ‘most important’ partner in South Asia: Putin


    Nov 8, 2011


    Moscow: Pakistan is Russia’s “most important” partner in South Asia and in the Islamic world, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Monday during a meeting with his Pakistani counterpart in St Petersburg.

    “Pakistan today is not an important trade and economic partner of Russia, but also most important Russian partner in South Asia and in the Islamic world,” Putin was quoted as saying at his meeting with Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani.
    Putin and Gilani

    With deterioration of Islamabad's ties with Washington, Moscow is seeking a closer relationship with India's arch-rival with the blessing of China — Pakistan's "all-weather" friend. AFP

    The two met on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) prime-ministerial meet in St Petersburg, ITAR-TASS reported.

    Welcoming Gilani, Putin said he was happy to see him in Russia and his hometown St Petersburg, though he had met him earlier in other countries.

    He also confirmed Moscow’s readiness to invest $500 million on the CASA-1000 electric transmission line to supply Pakistan with the Central Asian power from Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

    With deterioration of Islamabad’s ties with Washington, Moscow is seeking a closer relationship with India’s arch-rival with the blessing of China — Pakistan’s “all-weather” friend.

    Pak is Russia’s ‘most important’ partner in South Asia: Putin | Firstpost
     
  11. SpArK

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    Already posted..
     
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    8) Sorry Benny.
     
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    well lets take this statement with pinch of salt
     
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    Russians partnering pakistanis is same like israel allying with iran in the current period.

    Lets see what comes out of this new partner , next time a bomb goes off in dagestan , ingusetia and cechnya the partnership will melt away.

    Lol partnership with a nation who exports terror to your lands. its not even smart geopolitics , its juts a message to india to send some orders their way soon
     
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    Excerpts from Russia fears embrace of giant eastern neighbour, China | World news | The Observer

    Russia fears embrace of giant eastern neighbour
     
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  16. hit&run

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    India has to purchase high end technology for many good reasons from someone, if not Russia. it would be too greedy and low of them, pressurizing India by doing such petty lip service to Pakistan (If that is the case) given how much we have already committed to many good projects.
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    However India has already shown Russia what we are trying to achieve. The shift is quite visible. Also India shouldn't be distracted by these Pakistan's full of Inferiority complex gestures of symbolic/diplomatic tricks to pocket Russia. Pakistan showed urgency recently when she saw an American onslaught inevitable on gradual exposure of their complicity. They think that at some point Russia may be able to check (diplomatically) American offences (when all of their Lahori Logic to USA will exhaust).
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    Now what Pakistan or Russia be able to gain from each other? Even with India providing hard earned liquid money they are not able to deliver in time, what bankrupt Pakistan be able to offer Russian Industries is everyone's good guess.
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    As far as over hyped SCO is concern then first CAR region and Russia should dug more wells and produce more oil to make India desperate for the partnership. The CAR and Russia is not going to come down at Karachi ports for middle east oil because they are just producing enough for themselves. Neither Pakistan is an Industrial power house or manufacturing giant nor its citizens have purchasing power to buy CAR or Russian products including weapons. If Pakistan wants to partner with Russia and waste its diplomatic resources just to tease India then India wouldn't mind seeing them engaging in a zero sum game and in the meantime (India) focusing on regions of acute importance like South east Asia, Europe, Africa and USA.
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    Interestingly if one thinks that they will benefit from Russian engines then first they are already getting it via China second they must have better jet to host these engines to reach at parity with IAF.
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    Pakistan has been shopping/accessing/smuggling weapons from black market from countries once part of USSR. Just recently Russia captured a large cache of such weapon material meant for Pakistan. These countries have provided cruise missile technology to China which was then transferred/co-developed with Pakistan (as they provided Patriot missile to China) without honouring MTCR by China (Read Babur). Such technology from Russia may be a concern as they will be able to improvised their designs but given Russian record of honouring MTCR one may not be that concerned about the range at least.
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    russia having a trade relationship, funding civilain projects of electricity is not a concern for me specifically over it giving any military aid ( it has not).

    Pakistan is a done deal- its behind in India's rear view mirror, they can't stand up to the Indian military might. They are also headed down the road to a somali model-- terrorism as a national identity. Indians must shift their main focus to what is economic terrorism from china... China is more determental to India's future growth than PAK.
     
  18. Rahul92

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    Guys there is a difference between Ally and partner so just relax
     
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    Russia @ Pakistan = partners
    Russia @ India = allies

    Yup, see the difference?
     
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    Geo-politics my friend ... no hard feelings is the mantra.
    The re-surging post cold war Russia needs new friends and their feud with Pakistan doesn't have the kind of roots ours has.
    Besides this is just lip service, I'd wait and watch how far Putin goes in reality.

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    This is smart geo-politics. Putin knows that over-emotionally imbalanced Pakistanis will melt with these words and give them good opportunities to do business and salvage whatever is left of Pakistani economy. Let's face it; Rusky weapons don't come free with a little AID tag. China cannot keep buying Russian engines for Pakistan everytime the Greens come towards them with a begging bowl. That's partly the reason why they've stopped having hopes in Pakistan and have started taking the needling business to themselves. They know Pakistan will sink soon. If they did not test waters now, they will never know our capabilities which they're testing now.

    Coming back to Putin, I don't think fighter jet engines should be a problem. Non-offensive weapons are the words here. It is pure business. We rejected MiG-35 and bunted Mi-28 Night Hunter because we didn't find them as requirements; If Russians can get valuable $$ that too in hundreds of millions for their economy that too from Chinese pocket for a failed state like Pakistan, I'd say we need to learn from Russians first how to manufacture hi-tech weapons and then how to make powerful nations spend their maal on behalf of failed states with no maan left. both on a non-offensive component of it. :lol:
     

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