Pak intelligence agencies in touch with UP riot victims: Rahul

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    We have a sticky thread for NaMo and his achievements, I am wondering, why not for Pappu and his idiotic musings ?

    @ Mods, it's an humble request to make this thread as a sticky.

    To start with, here's a pearl ...

    Pak intelligence agencies in touch with UP riot victims, Rahul Gandhi says - The Times of India

     
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    Pak intelligence agencies in touch with UP riot victims: Rahul

    INDORE/LUCKNOW: Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi triggered a spat with both the BJP and SP on Thursday claiming intelligence agencies in Pakistan were in touch with riot victims in Muzaffarnagar to ensnare them into terrorism during an election rally in Indore, Madhya Pradesh.

    "A couple of days ago, an intelligence officer walked into my office and told me that people from Pakistan are talking to the relatives of Muslims killed in Muzaffarnagar. The officer told me that he has been trying to convince victims not to get swayed by Pakistani propaganda," said Rahul.

    "Who will douse the fires of communalism? The saffron brigade is creating hatred between Hindus and Muslims. And it's the Congress which has to douse it," he said. BJP's approach will impact on the security and integrity of India, he said.

    But UP minister and ruling SP's Muslim face Azam Khan, taking a dim view of Rahul's comment, said, "A leader like Rahul must not take a statement of any junior level intelligence officer so seriously as to make a comment at a rally. If he'd come to know about any such thing he should have communicated it to the UP government and the concerned ministry at the Centre."

    BJP spokesman Shahnawaz Husain told agencies in New Delhi, "Rahul Gandhi has tried to point the needle of suspicion at Muslims by his remarks. He has raised questions about the patriotism of Indian Muslims by saying they were approached by ISI. This is unfortunate. He should apologise for his remarks."

    Playing the family's martyrdom card, Rahul said his father was his idol and asked the crowd, "Don't you all love your father as I do?"

    Earlier, speaking In Rahatgarh, Rahul told his party's faction-ridden MP unit to unite and uproot the BJP from power. "The Congress will remain united and candidates will not be a particular leader's man, but a representative of the party," he said in this dusty village in Bundelkhand. "If Congress remains united, nobody can defeat us," he said.

    Recalling his 2008 visit to Bundelkhand when the region was hit by a drought, he said, "I came here and visited UP and MP, spent nights and got bitten by mosquitoes, drank village water and suffered a bad stomach. I made that effort because your leaders should know the life you lead in rural areas.

    "Congress wants that one day the poor farmer's son should be in that car travelling on smooth roads and flying in aircraft. The Opposition says they constructed roads. But we constructed more roads than NDA government. We also built more airports,'' he said.

    But even as Rahul spoke of a united fight against the BJP government, his party failed to reach a definite figure on the Centre's Bundelkhand package. While Rahul claimed the Centre had granted Rs 3,000 crore for Bundelkhand's development, state Congress chief Kantilal Bhuria said the amount was Rs 4,500 crore. Jyotiraditya Scindia quoted Rs 4,750 while another leader, Satyavrat Chaturvedi, said BJP had failed to utilise even 30% of the package.

    Meanwhile, the UP police denied having any information about Pakistani intelligence agencies being in touch with Muslim youths in Muzaffarnagar. "We have no such information. He (Rahul) might have got the information from somewhere. We will also get it verified", said additional director general, law and order, Mukul Goel in Lucknow.

    Pak intelligence agencies in touch with UP riot victims: Rahul - The Times of India
     
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    SP, BJP condemn Rahul claim that Pak reached out to riot-hit Muslims

    Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi‘s statement that Pakistani propagandists are attempting to reach out to Muslim riot victims in Muzaffarnagar cwas immediately condemned by the Uttar Pradesh government and also the Bharatiya Janata Party.

    Minister in Uttar Pradesh’s Samajwadi Party government Azam Khan, considered the SP’s most prominent Muslim face in the state, said Rahul appeared to have taken the comments of a junior Intelligence officer too seriously. “A leader like Rahul must not take a statement of any junior level intelligence officer so seriously as to make a comment at a rally. If he’d come to know about any such thing he should have communicated it to the UP government and the concerned ministry at the Centre,” Khan told The Times of India. BJP spokesman Shahnawaz Husain told reporters in New Delhi that Rahul has questioned the patriotism of INdian Muslims by suggesting that they are vulnerable to propaganda from across the border. “Rahul Gandhi has tried to point the needle of suspicion at Muslims by his remarks. He has raised questions about the patriotism of Indian Muslims by saying they were approached by ISI. This is unfortunate. He should apologise for his remarks,” he said. GOvernment officials were also reported to have denied any information about Pakistani intelligence agencies being in touch with Muslim youth in Muzaffarnagar. “We have no such information. Rahul might have got the information from somewhere. We will also get it verified”, said additional director general, law and order, Mukul Goel in Lucknow, to the Times of India.

    SP, BJP condemn Rahul claim that Pak reached out to riot-hit Muslims | Firstpost
     
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    Rahul’s Muzaffarnagar comment paints Muslims in bad light, say clerics

    Lucknow: Muslim clerics today slammed Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi‘s statement that some Muslim youths from riots-ravaged Muzaffarnagar in Uttar Pradesh were in touch with Pakistan’s intelligence agency ISI, and said these were “most unfortunate”. Maulana Saif Abbas Naqvi, a prominent Shia cleric, said such statements not only painted the Muslim community in bad light but also strengthened the communal forces. He said these were a “grave insinuation” on millions of peace loving and patriotic Muslims in the country. He also alleged that instead of understanding the plight and pain of the riot victims, the Gandhi scion was playing politics with the communal riots and the victims.

    Shahar Qazi, Maulana Abul Irfan Miyan Farangi Mahali, said the statement of Rahul Gandhi was “most unfortunate” and demanded an immediate and unconditional apology from the Congress leader. “It does not behove leaders of a national party like the Congress to give such cheap and hurtful statements against the Muslims…we are patriotic and would do anything for India” he said in a statement. Maulana Kalbe Sadiq, senior vice-president of the All-India Muslim Personal Law Board, also said that anyone who casts aspersions on the integrity and loyalty of the minorities for the country was doing a great dis-service to the country and the Muslims. At an election rally in Indore Thursday, Rahul Gandhi had made a sensational claim that singed by the riots and killings in Muzaffarnagar district of the state, many Muslim youth were in touch with Pakistan’s intelligence agency ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence). The riots and communal violence in the district in September had left 62 dead and 43,000 homeless.

    Rahul’s Muzaffarnagar comment paints Muslims in bad light, say clerics | Firstpost
     
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    Will somebody ask this idiot to shut up.

    Why will an IB operative report to the VP of a political party?
    Is the Home Minister aware of this intelligence?
    Has Pappu passed on this to the concerned ministry?

    Before he disappears to his foreign jaunts, RG should be questioned on the source of his information and what else top secret stuff is filtering to him. He is not bound by the OSA and such information should not be shared with him.
     
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    Dear Rahul, don’t sacrifice intel agencies for political gain

    While it was all about escape velocity in previous rallies, Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi may have opened a can of worms by trying to paint the BJP with a communal brush and going so far as to claim that Muslim youths in Muzaffarnagar were in touch with Pakistani intelligence agency ISI. As part of his effort to ramp up his rhetoric against the BJP, the Congress vice president has not only bared personal tragedies but has also sought to link terrorism with the opposition party. “There are 10 to 15 such Muslim boys whose brothers and sisters were killed in the riots and who were approached by Pakistani agencies,” he said during his Indore rally. Gandhi claimed that the intelligence official told him he was working on convincing the youths not to come under the influence of the Pakistani operatives.

    BJP spokesman Shahnawaz Husain told reporters in New Delhi that Rahul has questioned the patriotism of Indian Muslims by suggesting that they are vulnerable to propaganda from across the border. “Rahul Gandhi has tried to point the needle of suspicion at Muslims by his remarks. He has raised questions about the patriotism of Indian Muslims by saying they were approached by ISI. This is unfortunate. He should apologise for his remarks,” he said. Apart from the BJP, the Samajwadi Party which is presently providing outside support to the UPA government has also attacked the Congress Vice President over his comment. “A leader like Rahul must not take a statement of any junior level intelligence officer so seriously as to make a comment at a rally. If he’d come to know about any such thing he should have communicated it to the UP government and the concerned ministry at the Centre,” SP’s Azam Khan told The Times of India. Even Muslim clerics haven’t taken kindly to the insinuation and believe the statement could cause more harm for a community that already faces prejudices. But was the Congress vice president talking through his hat or does he have a loquacious intelligence officer briefing him despite the fact that he’s not supposed to be? Former intelligence officers that the Times of India spoke with expressed complete surprise over the fact that intelligence officers were speaking to the political leader despite the fact that he had no binding to keep it secret. A unnnamed senior intelligence officer was quoted as saying they would need to find out which officer had met the Congress vice president. He said: “There can be no official briefing to Rahul Gandhi as he is not part of the government or the security establishment.” The Congress Vice President is unlikely to clarify why the intelligence agencies give political personalities like him private briefings or whether he merely was aiming to slander the opposition party by accusing them of furthering terrorism. Intelligence agencies are often quoted as authoritative sources when it comes to pretty much any event ranging from terror attacks to even onion prices. The Congress Vice President may have conveniently used them as a shield to rake muck at his opponents but unfortunately it only hurts their reputation more. As expected, the Congress and Rahul Gandhi have joined the BJP in making the election as much about communal factors as about development and governance. The problem is in their one-upmanship, other institutions stand to get their reputations damaged.

    Dear Rahul, don't sacrifice intelligence agencies for political gain | Firstpost
     
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    That is the misfortune of our nation, where all the institutions of Govt including some so called autonomous bodies have become 'political instruments of power'.

    What is the difference between China and India?

    The shroud called democracy with the concession to vote?

    Who knows that too is possibly manipulated by the powers that be!

    A pessimistic view, but in these times, there is hardly any window of opportunity to be optimistic!
     
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    whats wrong in what he said.thats what isi is all about.....
     
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    RaGa must watch out for his life. He is becoming a big burden for congress with his stupid remarks and congress will get him bumped off just like his Grandmother and father as they do want a liability. They might kill him just to retain power by generating a sympathy wave.
     
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    The problem with Rahul’s ISI claim in UP riots

    While it was all about escape velocity in previous rallies, Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi may have opened a can of worms by trying to paint the BJP with a communal brush and going so far as to claim that Muslim youths in Muzaffarnagar were in touch with Pakistani intelligence agency ISI.

    As part of his effort to ramp up his rhetoric against the BJP, the Congress vice president has not only bared personal tragedies but has also sought to link terrorism with the opposition party. “There are 10 to 15 such Muslim boys whose brothers and sisters were killed in the riots and who were approached by Pakistani agencies,” he said during his Indore rally.

    Gandhi claimed that the intelligence official told him he was working on convincing the youths not to come under the influence of the Pakistani operatives. Rahul’s rally in Indore: PTI BJP spokesman Shahnawaz Husain told reporters in New Delhi that Rahul has questioned the patriotism of Indian Muslims by suggesting that they are vulnerable to propaganda from across the border. “Rahul Gandhi has tried to point the needle of suspicion at Muslims by his remarks. He has raised questions about the patriotism of Indian Muslims by saying they were approached by ISI. This is unfortunate. He should apologise for his remarks,” he said.

    Apart from the BJP, the Samajwadi Party which is presently providing outside support to the UPA government has also attacked the Congress Vice President over his comment. “A leader like Rahul must not take a statement of any junior level intelligence officer so seriously as to make a comment at a rally. If he’d come to know about any such thing he should have communicated it to the UP government and the concerned ministry at the Centre,” SP’s Azam Khan told The Times of India.

    Even Muslim clerics haven’t taken kindly to the insinuation and believe the statement could cause more harm for a community that already faces prejudices. But was the Congress vice president talking through his hat or does he have a loquacious intelligence officer briefing him despite the fact that he’s not supposed to be?

    Former intelligence officers that the Times of India spoke with expressed complete surprise over the fact that intelligence officers were speaking to the political leader despite the fact that he had no binding to keep it secret.

    A unnnamed senior intelligence officer was quoted as saying they would need to find out which officer had met the Congress vice president. He said: “There can be no official briefing to Rahul Gandhi as he is not part of the government or the security establishment.”

    The Congress Vice President is unlikely to clarify why the intelligence agencies give political personalities like him private briefings or whether he merely was aiming to slander the opposition party by accusing them of furthering terrorism. Intelligence agencies are often quoted as authoritative sources when it comes to pretty much any event ranging from terror attacks to even onion prices. The Congress Vice President may have conveniently used them as a shield to rake muck at his opponents but unfortunately it only hurts their reputation more.

    As expected, the Congress and Rahul Gandhi have joined the BJP in making the election as much about communal factors as about development and governance. The problem is in their one-upmanship, other institutions stand to get their reputations damaged.


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    Why is IB reporting to Rahul Gandhi, if not if he was privy to this information he should have kept it secret. God forbid this man becomes PM of India which is quite possible given the nature of our polity and electoral system.
     
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    :rotfl: Very well said, Sir.
     
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    Congress is trying to convince people not to listen to ISI!!! Wow... Why were the ISI operatives not arrested???
     
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    But the dangerous part of that is that it is indirectly suggesting that Muslims are in contact with the ISI.

    Or, in other words, are not loyal to India.

    Now, that is real insulting.

    And if what Rahul Gabdhi said true, it is a dangerous situation, though I seriously feel he is talking through his hat and playing to the gallery with lies, since no IB chap would be reporting to a civilian, who has no locus standi in Govt.

    He is coming like a joker something like his mentor, Digvijay Singh!
     
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    Is RahulG campaigning for or against the congress? :rofl:

    The party has lost votes because of his campaigning lol,
     
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    NaMo is giving befitting reply to 'ISI claim' and BSs of RG in Jhansi :rofl: :pound: NaMo is in different mood today.
     
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    Is he in Jhansi..? Any live feeds ?
     
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