PAK-FA project will be delayed If china doesn't buy Su-35

Discussion in 'Defence & Strategic Issues' started by Blackwater, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. Blackwater

    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Jan 9, 2012
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    Akhand Bharat
    "If they will buy one spare engine for every four fixed (in China purchased SU-35), as is in fact not necessary, then it will be a wake-up call - U.S. official says - although at the moment there is no point in the transaction, prescribing the relationship between spare and installed engines. Despite the apparent "bear trap" in which Russia landed the ill-fated J-11, the Russian aviation industry needs money to start serial production of fighter aircraft. If the deal does not burn out, the fighter T-50 does not stand on stream as planned. "

    Sukhoi T-50 is a prototype stealth fighter PAK FA is intended to replace the Su-27 and MiG-29. Delays and problems with the program the U.S. «F-35 Joint Strike Fighter» are unpleasant recall the failures that may occur from production of the fifth generation fighter.

    No country had not bought the SU-35, while Brazil, India and South Korea are considering it. China has in the past expressed interest in carrier-based fighters Su-33 and Su-27, but the previous incident of violation of intellectual property rights in the case of SU-27, struts Russian arms sales, is still an important issue.

    Западные СМИ о покупке Китаем российских истребителей СУ-35 - ВПК.name
  3. jalsa

    jalsa Regular Member

    Nov 27, 2012
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    Indus Land
    Re: IF china dont buy Su 35, it will cause delay of T50 project. Sour

    I think T-50 program is not dependent on sale of Su-35 and there is Indian money pouring in.
    sesha_maruthi27 and uss like this.
  4. Drsomnath999

    Drsomnath999 lord of 32 teeth Elite Member

    Jun 17, 2011
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    i think it is just like saying if china doesnt sell jf 17 or pirated lavi copy j10 to any bankrupt country then j20 project would be delayed:lol:
  5. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

    Dec 17, 2009
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    Word is Russia has agreed to reduce the order from 48 to 24. The Chinis want to buy the same number of engines for the 48 as they do on the 24 order. China wants it for the engines since they have failed to make their own turbofans.
  6. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

    Aug 10, 2009
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    Re: IF china dont buy Su 35, it will cause delay of T50 project. Sour

    problem is they seem to think the indian money is coming cheap - i see a pattern ( not too difficult to see actually ) where they are holding our deposits in whatever program hostage and then playing some kind of games in mid-course - so all our investment goes to nought unless we pour more in

    we better figure out something to prevent this happening too frequently - really we are caught on the wrong foot already with certain of our departments waiting for things to happen - not pro-active but reactive and even then rather tardy response

    we already had this crop up with gorshkov and a couple of other projects -- i sure hope our "back home " folks will speed up the learning curve on such tricks ?
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2012
  7. average american

    average american Senior Member Senior Member

    Aug 28, 2012
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    •If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.

    •If there is a worse time for something to go wrong, it will happen then.

    •If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop.

    •If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

    •Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.

    •Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first.

    •Every solution breeds new problems.

    •Enough research will tend to support your theory.

    All of Murphys laws applies to the PAK-FA and thats just Russia buiilding the plane, it does not take in to account the part HAL will play.

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