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PLEASE NOTE: THIS ARTICLE IS TRANSLATED VERSION OF PAKFA INFORMATION FROM PARALAY.COM.THIS ARTICLE IS DIVIDED INTO SUB PARTS FOR CONVENIENT READING.THIS THREAD CONSISTS OF 8 POSTS
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CHIEF DESIGNER PAK FA TOLD ABOUT THE FIGHTER
In response to a request by journalists to compare the PAK FA fighter to the American F-22 Raptor, established ten years ago, the chief designer of the aircraft, Alexander Davydenko said: "The main functions are the same, but we have tried to make them better." Davydenko said that the development of aircraft CB "dry" air combat modeled T-50, F-22.
"I think we will have competitive prices. With regard to the criterion of cost / effectiveness of our aircraft are much better, "said the designer.
Prototypes of the fourth generation fighter aircraft MiG-29 and Su-27 flew in 1977. Analysts say a number of countries, including Libya and Vietnam have expressed interest in acquiring Russian fifth generation fighter, but serious financial, technical and even political barriers will be saved, before Russia will establish serial production of these machines.
The first flight of the PAK FA has shown that "Russia remains firmly in second place in the world in terms of defense technology," said a recent review of the Moscow Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST), published last week.
"2015 is set as the deadline for the supply of fighters in the Air Force. We are working on implementing this, "said Davydenko. According to him, the prototype, which flew a "100% of fifth-generation machine." The designer said that the navigation system, communications and information system for the experimental development of an entirely new, but their testing in the wind regime will take place later. The plane is not yet ready for the suspension of arms, said Davydenko.
The share of composites in the total mass of the empty aircraft is 25%. On the surface of the aircraft - 70%, "- said A.Davidenko on Monday.
He noted that the widespread use of composite materials in aircraft design to reduce its mass, and greatly facilitate the preparation of mass production. "Thanks to the use of composite materials significantly reduced the amount of detail: in comparison with the Su-27 decreased the number of parts four times," - said A.Davidenko.
He added that the use of composites could substantially reduce the radar signature of the aircraft.
A.Davidenko recalled that the fourth-generation aircraft - Russian Su-27 and U.S. F-15s - are the reflection coefficient of the surface, which characterizes the radar signature of aircraft within a 12 square meters.
"In the F-22 (U.S. fifth-generation fighter - Interfax-AVN) - 0.3-0.4 sq.m. We have similar requirements for visibility," - said A.Davidenko.
Analysts believe that the existing engines of the prototype T-50 did not have all the features of the fifth generation of power plants. According to CAST, "although these engines provide the required total power (enough even to achieve a supersonic cruise speed), but do not meet the requirements of the fifth generation of the ratio of the weight and thrust, and fuel economy." CAST also concludes that "many observers are skeptical about Russia's chances to develop this fifth-generation engine that could compete with American Pratt & Whitney F119». Problems also arise with the development of new radar and other onboard equipment, but recent progress suggests that the risks are reasonable.
Davydenko said that the T-50 will be issued on a parity basis (50 to 50) in the Russian-Indian joint venture, and can be equipped with a supersonic cruise missile BrahMos.
Analysts conclude that the Russian stealth fighter could easily take a third of the world market if large scale production becomes a reality.
Asked about the possible involvement of China in the PAK FA project, Davydenko said that "no negotiations with the Chinese on this fighter is not maintained."
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"To bring some clarity to the debate above. I happened to be there yesterday to listen to Putin for 10 minutes (the introductory report of the meeting), then Pogosyan (answering questions after the meeting and the 5th generation in general, and it was already after 23:00!) and before the arrival of GDP (it came only in 19.00), during the "tour" - including the chief designer Davydenko. Based on all this now heard some members of the media, by virtue of their abilities and understanding of the issue and set out about three summers PAKFy, about PAKDu, which supposedly will make dry, dry to about 350 in 2020, etc., etc. Do not hurt them much for this - they also had the dry protorchal from 14.30 to almost 24.00, and they as usual tried to pass "before the other" (a type of work).
What is actually shown (before the arrival of GDP):
A. Stand KSU-50 with full-scale drive (Bogdan attended, said of April)
1). Seminatural stand with a real cockpit avionics (clarified - cabin "real", as in 50-1, well, if only with the exception of some ACA, etc.)
2) Halls design (gl.konstr. Davydenko answered questions, mostly silly, on the screens - including the design and the power circuit of the wing, etc.)
4. Department of the strength and the like Modeling (on the screen in "digital" test-wing airframe in general, in the memory / h on the penetration of foreign objects, refueling - to avoid getting fuel from the hose in / s, etc., etc.)
In stat. hall, where stands 50-0, led only to the GDP and a couple of cameras + staff fotika Sukhovsky (but his pictures, which went 50-0, has not yet given, like "No way", although stills RTR and NTV have seen) .
Further, "in essence" (the way Sukhovskaya corporate magazine called), very briefly, on those issues on which there broke a lot of copies.
A. 50-2 forward towards the end of the year. 3 and 4 - in 2011.
2). RLS 1 and 2 is natural and not planned (MAP was very angry at the fools zhurnalyugi done on the basis of this far-reaching conclusions.) We are waiting for her on board in 2011. Behind and do not wait, because "We do not need it"
3). The second stage engine is not waiting until 2020. "The engine of the first stage meets all the TTT, including at supersonic cruising" with him and go to the serial 2015-2016. Again, very angry at zhurnalyugi who believe the engine of the first stage the "old" (because as a brand new FADEC, the new turbine, thrust, "2500 kg", weight and flow rate is less than, etc., etc.).
4). EPR. It has been said so: the 4th generation ("aircraft such as Su-27") - about 12 meters, the F-22 - about 0.3 ... 0.4. And we will be "no worse than the F-22 or so"
5). Waiting in Zhukovsky "in the next few months" (April - see above), there will be a presentation, but "as long as necessary to keep the intrigue"
Andrey Fomin (AF)
- A program started in 2002, in 2004, Putin first saw the layout, in 2005 began the actual funding
- The end of 2010 plan to make the 2nd in 2011 - 3rd and 4th T-50
- Even the first two T-50 equipped with a full-time display and navigation systems, they will experience primarily on aerodynamics / strength / control to confirm fidelity to build a glider-
- On the 3rd and 4th place will be other avionics, including radar and weapons systems
- On the 1st stage, put in between the engine izd.117, with 2011 going to start work on the 2nd stage engine
- 12:48 shows large landing gear
- May be turning a flat nozzle
- PAK FA initially multifunctional, the work of the air / land / water (unlike the F-22)
- The price declared, "is 2-3 times less than the F-22" (verbatim quote from Putin)
- Plans to make the doubles later (probably when the Indians begin to work closer)
- Originally laid down in the TTP superiority over the F-22, which is logical given the large margin of time in the development of T-50
- A powerful system of electron beam, infrared sensors, long-range missiles
- Built-in controls to reduce the cost of service
- In a glider PAK FA is not less than 30% composites, because this significantly reduced the total number of parts (4 times less than the Su-27)
- The signature of PA PA 24:30 minutes
- By 2012. the results of tests first 4 prototypes will determine the size of the initial batch
- Batch of graduate experience in 2014, 2015, from 2016 to go into mass production (the first stage will buy up to 2020. More than 50 aircraft - a quote from Popovkin)
HERE IS THE LINK
Google Translate
CHIEF DESIGNER PAK FA TOLD ABOUT THE FIGHTER
In response to a request by journalists to compare the PAK FA fighter to the American F-22 Raptor, established ten years ago, the chief designer of the aircraft, Alexander Davydenko said: "The main functions are the same, but we have tried to make them better." Davydenko said that the development of aircraft CB "dry" air combat modeled T-50, F-22.
"I think we will have competitive prices. With regard to the criterion of cost / effectiveness of our aircraft are much better, "said the designer.
Prototypes of the fourth generation fighter aircraft MiG-29 and Su-27 flew in 1977. Analysts say a number of countries, including Libya and Vietnam have expressed interest in acquiring Russian fifth generation fighter, but serious financial, technical and even political barriers will be saved, before Russia will establish serial production of these machines.
The first flight of the PAK FA has shown that "Russia remains firmly in second place in the world in terms of defense technology," said a recent review of the Moscow Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST), published last week.
"2015 is set as the deadline for the supply of fighters in the Air Force. We are working on implementing this, "said Davydenko. According to him, the prototype, which flew a "100% of fifth-generation machine." The designer said that the navigation system, communications and information system for the experimental development of an entirely new, but their testing in the wind regime will take place later. The plane is not yet ready for the suspension of arms, said Davydenko.
The share of composites in the total mass of the empty aircraft is 25%. On the surface of the aircraft - 70%, "- said A.Davidenko on Monday.
He noted that the widespread use of composite materials in aircraft design to reduce its mass, and greatly facilitate the preparation of mass production. "Thanks to the use of composite materials significantly reduced the amount of detail: in comparison with the Su-27 decreased the number of parts four times," - said A.Davidenko.
He added that the use of composites could substantially reduce the radar signature of the aircraft.
A.Davidenko recalled that the fourth-generation aircraft - Russian Su-27 and U.S. F-15s - are the reflection coefficient of the surface, which characterizes the radar signature of aircraft within a 12 square meters.
"In the F-22 (U.S. fifth-generation fighter - Interfax-AVN) - 0.3-0.4 sq.m. We have similar requirements for visibility," - said A.Davidenko.
Analysts believe that the existing engines of the prototype T-50 did not have all the features of the fifth generation of power plants. According to CAST, "although these engines provide the required total power (enough even to achieve a supersonic cruise speed), but do not meet the requirements of the fifth generation of the ratio of the weight and thrust, and fuel economy." CAST also concludes that "many observers are skeptical about Russia's chances to develop this fifth-generation engine that could compete with American Pratt & Whitney F119». Problems also arise with the development of new radar and other onboard equipment, but recent progress suggests that the risks are reasonable.
Davydenko said that the T-50 will be issued on a parity basis (50 to 50) in the Russian-Indian joint venture, and can be equipped with a supersonic cruise missile BrahMos.
Analysts conclude that the Russian stealth fighter could easily take a third of the world market if large scale production becomes a reality.
Asked about the possible involvement of China in the PAK FA project, Davydenko said that "no negotiations with the Chinese on this fighter is not maintained."
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"To bring some clarity to the debate above. I happened to be there yesterday to listen to Putin for 10 minutes (the introductory report of the meeting), then Pogosyan (answering questions after the meeting and the 5th generation in general, and it was already after 23:00!) and before the arrival of GDP (it came only in 19.00), during the "tour" - including the chief designer Davydenko. Based on all this now heard some members of the media, by virtue of their abilities and understanding of the issue and set out about three summers PAKFy, about PAKDu, which supposedly will make dry, dry to about 350 in 2020, etc., etc. Do not hurt them much for this - they also had the dry protorchal from 14.30 to almost 24.00, and they as usual tried to pass "before the other" (a type of work).
What is actually shown (before the arrival of GDP):
A. Stand KSU-50 with full-scale drive (Bogdan attended, said of April)
1). Seminatural stand with a real cockpit avionics (clarified - cabin "real", as in 50-1, well, if only with the exception of some ACA, etc.)
2) Halls design (gl.konstr. Davydenko answered questions, mostly silly, on the screens - including the design and the power circuit of the wing, etc.)
4. Department of the strength and the like Modeling (on the screen in "digital" test-wing airframe in general, in the memory / h on the penetration of foreign objects, refueling - to avoid getting fuel from the hose in / s, etc., etc.)
In stat. hall, where stands 50-0, led only to the GDP and a couple of cameras + staff fotika Sukhovsky (but his pictures, which went 50-0, has not yet given, like "No way", although stills RTR and NTV have seen) .
Further, "in essence" (the way Sukhovskaya corporate magazine called), very briefly, on those issues on which there broke a lot of copies.
A. 50-2 forward towards the end of the year. 3 and 4 - in 2011.
2). RLS 1 and 2 is natural and not planned (MAP was very angry at the fools zhurnalyugi done on the basis of this far-reaching conclusions.) We are waiting for her on board in 2011. Behind and do not wait, because "We do not need it"
3). The second stage engine is not waiting until 2020. "The engine of the first stage meets all the TTT, including at supersonic cruising" with him and go to the serial 2015-2016. Again, very angry at zhurnalyugi who believe the engine of the first stage the "old" (because as a brand new FADEC, the new turbine, thrust, "2500 kg", weight and flow rate is less than, etc., etc.).
4). EPR. It has been said so: the 4th generation ("aircraft such as Su-27") - about 12 meters, the F-22 - about 0.3 ... 0.4. And we will be "no worse than the F-22 or so"
5). Waiting in Zhukovsky "in the next few months" (April - see above), there will be a presentation, but "as long as necessary to keep the intrigue"
Andrey Fomin (AF)
- A program started in 2002, in 2004, Putin first saw the layout, in 2005 began the actual funding
- The end of 2010 plan to make the 2nd in 2011 - 3rd and 4th T-50
- Even the first two T-50 equipped with a full-time display and navigation systems, they will experience primarily on aerodynamics / strength / control to confirm fidelity to build a glider-
- On the 3rd and 4th place will be other avionics, including radar and weapons systems
- On the 1st stage, put in between the engine izd.117, with 2011 going to start work on the 2nd stage engine
- 12:48 shows large landing gear
- May be turning a flat nozzle
- PAK FA initially multifunctional, the work of the air / land / water (unlike the F-22)
- The price declared, "is 2-3 times less than the F-22" (verbatim quote from Putin)
- Plans to make the doubles later (probably when the Indians begin to work closer)
- Originally laid down in the TTP superiority over the F-22, which is logical given the large margin of time in the development of T-50
- A powerful system of electron beam, infrared sensors, long-range missiles
- Built-in controls to reduce the cost of service
- In a glider PAK FA is not less than 30% composites, because this significantly reduced the total number of parts (4 times less than the Su-27)
- The signature of PA PA 24:30 minutes
- By 2012. the results of tests first 4 prototypes will determine the size of the initial batch
- Batch of graduate experience in 2014, 2015, from 2016 to go into mass production (the first stage will buy up to 2020. More than 50 aircraft - a quote from Popovkin)