PAF wants to buy Chinese stealth aircraft: minister

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  1. Neeraj Mathur

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    PAF wants to buy Chinese stealth aircraft: minister


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    ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has expressed interest in procuring fourth generation stealth fighter aircraft FC-31 from China.

    Minister for Defence Production Rana Tanveer Hussain told Dawn on Friday the matter was being discussed with Chinese authorities.

    It is for the first time that a senior government functionary has confirmed talks with China over purchase of the longer-range stealth aircraft — an issue that has been a subject of speculation in defence circles since the 10th edition of the Zhuhai Air Show (China) held earlier this month, when the aircraft was unveiled.

    The Jane’s Defence Weekly had quoted an unnamed Pakistani official as saying that the PAF was holding talks with China for the purchase of 30 to 40 of the Shenyang FC-31 fighter planes and that discussions had gone beyond initial inquiries.

    The FC-31 is being developed by China primarily for the export market. Chinese officials claim that several countries have expressed interest in the aircraft believed to be comparable to US F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

    A prototype of the aircraft, designated as J-31, has been flown by the Chinese aircraft research and development firm Shenyang Aviation Company for a couple of years now.

    What particularly interests the PAF is that FC-31 prototype (J-31) and JF-17 use the same Russian Klimov RD-93 engines.

    Pakistan is increasingly relying on China as a reliable source for its defence procurements.

    Mr Hussain said that Pakistan was also interested in Chinese attack helicopter Z-10.

    China and Pakistan had earlier co-produced JF-17 Thunder. Pakistan has been eagerly trying to market this fighter aircraft.

    “We have nearly confirmed orders from seven countries for JF-17,” Mr Hussain said.

    Pakistan, which is at present producing Block-2 of JF-17 at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, is eyeing orders from countries in the Middle East and Africa.

    “The PAF has a requirement of 250 aircraft, but now we have decided that we’ll sell some of the JF-17 Block-2 to international buyers besides fulfilling our local demand,” the minister said.

    The minister sounded upbeat about the upcoming four-day defence exhibition IDEAS 2014 beginning in Karachi on Dec 1.

    Some 175 companies, including 34 local firms, are participating in the international event this year.

    Mr Hussain said a few MoUs and agreements on joint ventures were expected to be signed during the exhibition, but no orders were expected at the event.

    “The basic spirit behind the exhibition is to increase interaction with defence industry (officials) of other countries and provide exposure to our own industry,” he said.

    PAF wants to buy Chinese stealth aircraft: minister - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
     
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  3. mayankkrishna

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    Stupid Girlfriend stripped boyfriend .....The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has expressed interest in procuring :p fourth :p generation stealth fighter aircraft FC-31 from China.
     
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    Woo...ye sahi h..thy dnt gt rid off frm polio nw ebola case found..thy want fc31 aircraft bt fr whom
     
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    FC-31 is expected to be delivered to PAF by 2020 making it the first South Asian country to operate a stealth fighter.
     
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    how and how??? come out of dreams, by 2020 u will be the first south asian country to have maximun number of polio cases,no elecrticity,no water,more poor peopule,and guess wat no toilets,, nothing else:taunt::taunt:
     
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    They are very good at keeping their miseries and poverty in stealth mode.

    Haven't you seen every pathological lair on Pakistani TV channel talk about Indian poverty minimum once in a week but not their own shit.

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    Very rich coming from a country with world's largest hungry mouths and which happens to be world's largest weapons importer aswell.

    Jai Hind! :india:
     
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    China skirts queries on Pak's plan to buy stealth fighter | Zee News
     
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    What will Pakistan do with those Stealth Fighters when we know well that they will never be allowed to take off in a real war?
     
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    very rich coming from a country who plays double game of blackmailing in the name of islam,which happens to be world largest beggar as well:taunt1::taunt1::pakistan::pakistan:
     
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    not so harsh but everyday story of pakistan and reality of pakstan

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/w...ll-4-members-of-anti-polio-campaign.html?_r=0


    Over half of Pakistan lives under poverty line: Dar

    Over half of Pakistan lives under poverty line: Dar - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

    Alarming situation of education in Pakistan

    r u carrying polio certificate, neo miya???

    UNESCO - Education for All - Knowledge sharing - Grassroots stories - Pakistan


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    It is sanctimonious Pakistanis who bark everyday about Indian poverty not only on blogs but TV channels. You guys pioneer to tell the world that India is poor. But when it comes to your own shit you guys believe in keeping under the 'Parda' a convenient Islamic luxury you people use with one voice.

    Instead of buying these Chinese toys of no use because they are going to leak fuel on runways like your F-16s were during Kargil war; you people should help those poor girls eating remains of Mango fruits thrown by some feudal Punjabi crook on the garbage dump.
     
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    Ten years and plus a low grade Chinese stealth fighter would be ready. At the moment it faces insurmountable problems. The Americans took that long to solve the F-22 issues. The F-35 issues are still not solved yet. Chinese stealth fighter is in the Middle Kingdom. It will be long before it descends down.

    So I am glad that Pakis will have these copies, if Pakistan is still a country in ten years time.
     
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    Even if the Chinese Stealth Fighters are 4.5gen++, it will seriously impact Indian Air superiority. Remember India will be the aggressor and will be fighting in the Pakistani skies.

    And Chinese are developing 2 stealth fighters - FC-31 (based on F-35) and J-20
     
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    Congratulations! Hope your illiterate jihadi can be good pilots!
     
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    Quite a jahil comment coming from you.
    Didn't expect that.
     
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    When India launches a satellite into orbit, the British media talks about India's poverty.

    Looks like we are doing the same about Pakistan.

    Sure, Pakistan has its problems, but why can we not focus on the topic? Every thread by @Neo becomes a slugfest and people tend to gang up against him.
     
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    Singh.... Read the following paper carefully. J-31 and J-21 is a useless effort to beat the American F 22 or F35 or Russian PAK-FA. But the Chinese have too much cash and huge of documentation, stolen without the neccassry technological and manufacturing techniques. Also American & Russians are not ready to share the metallurgical behind their technology.



    India’s fears floods and landslides from Tibet dam Wed, Nov 26, 2014 NATO establishes a fleet of multirole tanker transport fleet Wed, Nov 26, SOURCE : IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

    China’s Second Stealth fighter aircraft Shenyang J-31 or FC-31 developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation came under Heavy Criticism from non other but from its own General . one of the official commentators of People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong instead of making tall claims of the fighter aircraft , took pot shots at the whole J-31 fighter aircraft program . Zhang told the state-run People’s Daily newspaper that the J-31 was never built with China’s military in mind and also dismissed Internet rumors that Chinese Navy is considering development of aircraft carrier variant of J-31 for use from future Chinese aircraft carriers . He also cleared that Objective of J-31 is to position Chinese fighter aircraft in Export market for those who cannot afford Expensive Stealth fighter aircrafts like American made F-35 or Russian made Pak-Fa . In his own words He described J-31 has a low Cost, low-end stealth fighter primarily designed for export like JF-17 which was also designed to replace older Soviet Mig-21’s and which was never used by its own air force . Zhang also made stunning observation that J-31 is too heavy for aircraft in its class and also questioned use of older Russian RD-93 in the aircraft , same engine is also used by Russia’s MiG-29 fighter aircraft which was developed way back 30 years ago . China plans to offer J-31 with two engine option Russian provided RD-93 engine which is also used by JF-17 or the WS-13 engine developed from the RD-93 . Since Pakistani JF-17 are still using Russian provided RD-93 and not the Chinese copy WS-13 it indicates that the engine is not fully operational nor it is capable to be used has a regular engine due to presiding technical problems it is still facing and Recent order placed by China for more RD-93 engine from Russia only further cements this claims of unreliability of WS-13 engines . Zhang too in his speech made reference to limitation of Reverse engineering of Engines and How China is yet few years away from mastering complex engine technology and why it is still depended on Russian engines for its domestic fighter aircraft programs . In Zhuhai Airshow Chinese media declared that Pakistani is very much interested in J-31 Fighter aircrafts and might be first Export customer for the same fighter . Well when it comes to Pakistani Military establishment any thing which comes with ” Friendly Price tag ” or with Never ending ” Soft loan ” are always welcomed with open arms , idrw.org had confirmed in past how Pakistan couldn’t even afford to Purchase fourth generation J-10 fighter aircrafts from china . China literally had to make excuse that J-10 has Export Ban and was not cleared by Chinese Government authority to stop Pakistani advances for Friendly Payment terms for Purchase . Are we also forgetting Pakistani air forces phobia of not operating Twin engine fighter aircrafts since it not only raises Operational and Manpower cost but also contributes to Higher fuel cost while providing same level of flight hours to its pilots . Even if Pakistan do end up buying J-31 , numbers put forward by media is only of 36-40 aircrafts which will be little over Two Squadrons , not enough to Change Air power Superiority in the region since India’s has its own plans to Induct 150+ FGFA / PAk-FA along with 126 French built Rafales . Many Western analyst have said that prospects for the J-31 jet’s export market are not as positive as many in Chinese media has described. Countries with stronger economies, bigger defense budgets

    Copied from idrw.org Why India shouldn’t be concerned about Chinese J-31 Fighter aircraft | idrw.org
     
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    I would consider this as a good news. J-31 so far is a very stupid project. I would be worried if PAF end up with one of the other 5th gen programs like Turkey's or South Korea's.:scared2:
     

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