PAF creates ipad clone with Chinese help

Discussion in 'Pakistan' started by nrj, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. nrj

    nrj Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,252
    Likes Received:
    3,347
    Location:
    Brussels
    KAMRA, Pakistan (AP) — Inside a high-security air force complex that builds jet fighters and weapons systems, Pakistan's military is working on the latest addition to its sprawling commercial empire: a homegrown version of the iPad.

    It's a venture that bundles together Pakistani engineering and Chinese hardware, and shines a light on the military's controversial foothold in the consumer market. Supporters say it will boost the economy as well as a troubled nation's self-esteem.

    It all comes together at an air force base in Kamra in northern Pakistan, where avionics engineers — when they're not working on defense projects — assemble the PACPAD 1.

    "The original is the iPad, the copy is the PACPAD," said Mohammad Imran, who stocks the product at his small computer and cell phone shop in a mall in Rawalpindi, a city not far from Kamra and the home of the Pakistani army.

    The device runs on Android 2.3, an operating system made by Google and given away for free. At around $200, it's less than half the price of Apple or Samsung devices and cheaper than other low-end Chinese tablets on the market, with the bonus of a local, one-year guarantee.

    The PAC in the name stands for the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, where it is made. The PAC also makes an e-reader and small laptop.

    Such endeavors are still at the pilot stage and represent just a sliver of the military's business portfolio, which encompasses massive land holdings, flour and sugar mills, hotels, travel agents, even a brand of breakfast cereal.

    The military is powerful, its businesses are rarely subject to civilian scrutiny, and it has staged three coups since Pakistan became a state in 1947. Many Pakistanis find its economic activities corrupting and say it should focus on entirely on defense.

    "I just can't figure it out," said Jehan Ara, head of Pakistan's Software Houses Association, said of the PACPAD. "Even if they could sell a billion units, I can't see the point. The air force is supposed to be protecting the air space and borders of the country."

    Supporters say the foray into information technology is a boost to national pride for a country vastly overshadowed by archrival India in the high-tech field. Tech websites in the country have shown curiosity or cautious enthusiasm, but say it's too early to predict how the device will perform. Skeptics claim it's a vanity project that will never see mass production.

    Only a few hundred of each products has been made so far, though a new batch will be completed in the next three months.

    "The defense industry is trying to justify its presence by doing more than just produce weapons," said Ayesha Siddiqa, author of Military Inc., a critical study of military businesses. "Some smart aleck must have thought we can make some money here."

    PAC's website at CPMC - Commercial Products Manufacturing Cell says the goal is "strengthening the national economy through commercialization" and lauds the collaboration with China — something that likely resonates among nationalists.

    China is regarded as a firm ally by Pakistan's security establishment, whereas the U.S., despite pouring billions of dollars in aid into the country, is seen as fickle and increasingly as an enemy.

    These perceptions have heightened as the U.S. intensifies drone attacks on militants based in the Pakistani borderlands. But the military is also a target of those militants. In 2007 the base at Kamra, home to 12,000 workers and their families, nine people died when a cyclist blew himself up at the entrance.

    PAC officials suggested the program that produces the PACPAD was modeled in part on the Chinese military's entry into commercial industry, which lasted two decades until it was ordered to cut back lest it become corrupted and lose sight of its core mission.

    The tablet and other devices are made in a low-slung facility, daubed in camouflage paint, near, a factory that produces J-17 Thunder fighter jets with Chinese help.

    "It's about using spare capacity. There are 24 hours in a day, do we waste them or use them to make something?" said Sohail Kalim, PAC's sales director. "The profits go to the welfare of the people here. There are lots of auditors. They don't let us do any hanky-panky here."

    PAC builds the PACPAD with a company called Innavtek in a Hong Kong-registered partnership that also builds high-tech parts for the warplanes.

    But basic questions go unanswered. Maqsood Arshad, a retired air force officer who is one of the directors, couldn't say how much money had been invested, how many units the venture hoped to sell and what the profit from each sale was likely to be.

    The market for low-cost Android tablets is expanding quickly around the world, with factories in China filling most of the demand. Last year, an Indian company produced the "Aakash" tablet, priced at $50, and sold largely to schoolchildren and students.

    Arshad said a second-generation PACPAD would be launched in the next three months, able to connect to the Internet via cell phone networks and other improved features. He said the Kamra facility could produce up to 1,000 devices a day.

    During a brief test, The tablet with its 7-inch screen appeared to run well and the screen responsiveness was sharp.

    "It seems good, but operation-wise I have to look into it," said Mohammad Akmal, who had come to the store in Rawalpindi to check the product out. "Within a month or so, we will know."

    All rights of above content owned by Associated Press
     
    Sridhar likes this.
  2.  
  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,117
    Likes Received:
    23,545
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Great!

    Now they should clone Chinese sanitary pads too!

    Both will not work for long.

    Chinese goods after all!
     
    nrj likes this.
  4. Blackwater

    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    21,000
    Likes Received:
    11,837
    Location:
    Akhand Bharat
    PAF creates ipad clone with Chinese help

    Is this a news, we all know china copies and pak uses that copy
     
  5. prahladh

    prahladh Respected Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    Universal Citizen
    In built apps include camel, donkey, dog... s3x... including reference manuals.:taunt:
     
  6. Illusive

    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,335
    Likes Received:
    1,418
    they need Chinese help to even build a pc tablet:laugh:
     
  7. JAYRAM

    JAYRAM 2 STRIKE CORPS Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Messages:
    3,274
    Likes Received:
    313
    Location:
    North Frontier, The Mighty Himalaya's
    Think, china is beginning to share their reverse engineering expertise to pak. Now pak will start reverse engineering in big and indian govt will shiittt in big!!!
     
  8. SADAKHUSH

    SADAKHUSH Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    758
    Location:
    Winterland
    Another copiyng nation is born as a last ditch effort to save herself from implosion. What will they think of next?
     
  9. sob

    sob Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    May 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,359
    Likes Received:
    3,665
    Location:
    New Delhi
    With nothing better to do, PAC is now invoved in assembling Tablets for parts sourced from China.

    Wonder this in response to Akaash.
     
  10. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    15,629
    Likes Received:
    11,705
    Good for PAC, BTW we can supply Akash at below Variable Cost, since fixed cost shall be recovered from our order.
     
  11. Blackwater

    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    21,000
    Likes Received:
    11,837
    Location:
    Akhand Bharat
    Poor PAC can not able to sell JF-17 in world market, to bachare kya kare, roti to khani ha,,Tablet sell kar lo,
     
  12. sob

    sob Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    May 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,359
    Likes Received:
    3,665
    Location:
    New Delhi
    Another way for the Generals to make money.

    Corruption by the Generals is ingrained in the system

     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 10, 2015
  13. Blackwater

    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    21,000
    Likes Received:
    11,837
    Location:
    Akhand Bharat
    Ya what else they can do

    JF -17 bikta nahi,

    papa ammerica $$$$$$$ ab dete nahi
     
    bhramos and sob like this.
  14. sob

    sob Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    May 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,359
    Likes Received:
    3,665
    Location:
    New Delhi
    Aur Chinese chacha??
     
  15. Iamanidiot

    Iamanidiot Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,326
    Likes Received:
    1,493
    India faces grave threat from Angry birds
     
    SPIEZ and nrj like this.
  16. lemontree

    lemontree Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    640
    It is money that the Pak Aeronautical industry wants! they can send their men to the Jamma Masjid in Lahore on fridays, after namaaz they can get a sizable amount as alms from the faithful.
     
    sob and Godless-Kafir like this.
  17. Godless-Kafir

    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    5,829
    Likes Received:
    1,799
    Just like JF-17 bundher. All made and designed in China but some how it gets the tag made in Pakistan or JV.
     
  18. bhramos

    bhramos Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    13,207
    Likes Received:
    6,638
    Location:
    Telangana/India/Bharat
  19. nitesh

    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Messages:
    7,541
    Likes Received:
    1,260
    Location:
    Bangalore
    This should be called

    pakipad
     
    Illusive and sayareakd like this.
  20. JAYRAM

    JAYRAM 2 STRIKE CORPS Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Messages:
    3,274
    Likes Received:
    313
    Location:
    North Frontier, The Mighty Himalaya's
  21. SPIEZ

    SPIEZ Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,507
    Likes Received:
    1,009
    Me thinks its a competition to the Akash tab :namaste:
     

Share This Page