Only democracy can resolve Tibetan issue

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Only democracy can resolve Tibetan issue: Sangay

Sonipat (Haryana), Jan 12 (IANS) China needs democracy for Tibet to gain 'genuine autonomy', Tibetan Prime Minister Lobsang Sangay said Thursday.

Delivering a public lecture at the Jindal School of International Affairs here, Sangay said the democratic model under the leadership of the Dalai Lama could be an acceptable political solution to the Tibetan tangle.

He maintained that if China allowed the same religious and cultural freedom as well as democratic governance, then it could resolve the issue of Tibet.

Sangay praised India's own democratic traditions and said the Tibetan government-in-exile, based in Dharamsala, had been inspired to follow the same traditions.

'Generally free and fair elections, a vibrant and critical print and electronic media and a commitment to resolving social tensions through dialogue and inter-communal harmony are all essential traits of India's great democracy. We Tibetans have learnt many of these practices and are implementing them in exile.'

India is home to the Dalai Lama and some 100,000 Tibetan exiles.

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Apparently, Dalai Lama or no Dalai Lama, China will have this thorn in their side, of Tibetans wanting freedom to decide their own destiny!

 

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The Myth of Socialist Paradise[

By LOBSANG SANGAY

THREE years ago, Tibetans from Lhasa to Lithang rose up against Chinese rule in Tibet. Earlier this week, a Tibetan monk set himself on fire — the second self-immolation this year, and a testament to China's continuing repression and Tibetans' continued resistance. We do not encourage protests, but it is our sacred duty to support our voiceless and courageous compatriots.

In 1950, when the Chinese Army first came to Tibet, they promised a socialist paradise for Tibetans. After more than 60 years of misrule, Tibet is no socialist paradise. There is not socialism but colonialism; there is no paradise, only tragedy.

Some Tibetans helped build roads to Tibet from China and were paid in silver coins by polite and respectful Chinese soldiers. However, once the roads were built in early 1950s, tanks encircled strategic urban areas, trucks headed straight to the mineral-rich mountains, and Chinese workers arrived later to exploit and mine billions of dollars worth of gold, copper and uranium. Overnight, it seemed, something had changed. The polite Chinese people changed, too, and became overbearing and aggressive. They used their guns. Battles erupted. There was death and destruction.

The continuing political repression, cultural assimilation, economic marginalization and environmental destruction in occupied Tibet are unacceptable. The new railway line from Beijing to Lhasa is bringing more heavy equipment to exploit our natural resources and more Chinese migrants, who are beginning to demographically dominate Tibet. Today, around 70 percent of private-sector firms are owned or run by Chinese, more than 50 percent of government officials are Chinese, and approximately 40 percent of Tibetans with university and high school degrees are unemployed. And this is made worse by Chinese officials who treat Tibet as their personal inheritance, and behave like latter-day feudal lords.

Earlier this year, several Chinese leaders visited Lhasa to celebrate 60 years of so-called peaceful liberation. But the reality is that the anniversary was observed under undeclared martial law. Troops carried automatic machine guns as they marched through the streets of Lhasa while sharpshooters positioned themselves on rooftops. Tourists, of course, were banned from visiting during the "celebration."

The Tibetan political leadership is still committed to nonviolence and a peaceful resolution through dialogue. We will continue our "middle way" policy, which seeks genuine autonomy for Tibet within the People's Republic of China, a win-win proposition for both the Tibetans and the Chinese.

China aspires to be a superpower. It has a fast-growing economy backed by growing military power, but sadly, its moral power is lagging behind. And moral power cannot be bought in the marketplace or forced with military might. It has to be earned.

As long as Tibetans are reduced to second-class citizens in their own homeland, there will be resistance to Chinese rule. Finding a lasting solution to the Tibet question, on the other hand, would improve China's image in the eyes of the world and help protect its territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Peaceful dialogue could lead to genuine Tibetan autonomy within China. This is a solution that would satisfy both Tibetan and Chinese interests and it would be a victory not only for the Tibetan people, but for all marginalized people around the world.

Lobsang Sangay was sworn in last week as the kalon tripa, or prime minister, of the Tibetan government in exile.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/the-myth-of-socialist-paradise-in-tibet.html


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This is what the Tibetan PM has to say about Tibet in his Op Ed in NYT.

 

[Dovah]

China aspires to be a superpower. It has a fast-growing economy backed by growing military power, but sadly, its moral power is lagging behind. And moral power cannot be bought in the marketplace or forced with military might. It has to be earned.

So true. Chinese are the only ones that take pride in their moral bankruptcy.

 

[Ray]

So true. Chinese are the only ones that take pride in their moral bankruptcy.

To the Chinese, morality is not that important.

It is economic enhancement that is important.

It is just that the Tibetan don't understand the Chinese and they out morality and spirituality over money and materialistic pleasures!

A clash of culture and psychology!

 

[mylegend]

To the Chinese, morality is not that important.

It is economic enhancement that is important.

It is just that the Tibetan don't understand the Chinese and they out morality and spirituality over money and materialistic pleasures!

A clash of culture and psychology!

Morality is found its foundation on economy too. There is no need for stealing if one is wealthy. It is also nation's obligation and duty to allow its Citizen to have a environment to pursue better living. Theocracy is always the worst solution. Iran is a prime example of Theocracy that teach everyone a lesson. In Chinese do have moral standard just like any other nation. It is ignorance to classified all of citizens of a nation as careless of moral. One must be feeling supremacy of culture its nation to give such a bold statement.

I must admit China is not a democracy, it is dictatorship that rule by communist elites,.. However, culture correct some of evil of nature communist regime. India does not enjoy supremacy in term of moral if you accounting to crime rate and the rampant of child prostitutes in India does not justified for moral supremacy over China.

China is rampant with many problem, issue like broken building, tainted milk really question the our system. However, it is not the morality of citizen is at fault, it is lack of oversight by government. The government in China collect taxes and do so little for its citizen, that is the source of all evil.

 

[Ray]

Morality is found its foundation on economy too. There is no need for stealing if one is wealthy. Chinese do have moral standard just like any other nation

And that is not with the Tibetans?

Is there no corruption by the rich or powerful in China?

Why is it that you have to be a CCP chap to flourish?

Morality of being a Communist working tirelessly for the poor, the workers and the peasants?

 

[mylegend]

And that is not with the Tibetans?

Is there no corruption by the rich or powerful in China?

Why is it that you have to be a CCP chap to flourish?

Morality of being a Communist working tirelessly for the poor, the workers and the peasants?

There is indeed corruption among CCP, and I believe it is the root of many evil the society. Many within their rank abuse their power as they wish because there is no checking or balance.

All I want to point out is, do not argue that entire ethnic group is moral less. I also want to point out from what we learn from Iran, theocracy is worst form of government possible.

A software engineer wrote a software, some porn site used it without his knowledge. Then this guy is being killed by Iran's government. True story, just happening... That is called theocracy. Theocracy solve no problem, it is source of problem. It is birthplace of evil and oppression.

 

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So the slave-owners and their dying head That Liar want democracy？

 

[Godless-Kafir]

So the slave-owners and their dying head That Liar want democracy？

I dont understand, can you first post an coherent sentence?

 

[Ray]

Which Liar wants democracy?

Hu or Wen.

Hu is this and wen is the democracy will be the way?

 

[Ray]

Dalai Lama has relinquished his political power as he had as per traditions.

It is now with common Tibetans as the new PM.

Therefore, it is not a theocracy and the comparison with Iran is flawed.