On Modi's visit, Chinese show India without AP and Jammu Kashmir

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  1. Peter

    Peter Senior Member Senior Member

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    During Modi's visit, Chinese state TV shows Indian map without Arunachal Pradesh and Jammu & Kashmir

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...sh-and-Jammu-Kashmir/articleshow/47286370.cms

     
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    The Chinese are at it again. No matter how much we show our earnest love and respect to these people they will still hate us. It think India should also alter the Chinese map when Xi visits us.
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    What earnest love and respect? You do what every country does--come to talk about business. Nothing more and nothing less. You don't love us and we don't hate you.
    By the way, the map just reflects the stance that Chinese gov hold for long time. India knows it and the whole world knows it.
     
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    SREEKAR Senior Member Senior Member

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    What can you expect from chinese?
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Will Indian media show Pakistan map with Kashmir when Pakistani PM visits India?
     
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    The presstitutes started way before his visit to China with negativity and gullible Indians jumped into the same donkey cart.

    They started with picking up some grammatically poor OpEd posted by some Chinese journalist, mocked Modi for some negative comments by Chinese netizens on his joining some Chinese social networking website (retracted strong adjectives later one when people like me posted equally strong adjectives for their cheep pot shots at NDTV).

    Many Congi a$s holes who themselves are trolls on Pakistanis forums blamed Modi for letting Indians have troll feast on his first day activities in China especially on few of his animated poses and pictures. They behave like rabid India hater Pakistanis who think such negativity against Modi is due to eternal love between China and Pakistan but in reality (which should have been projected) Pakistani bottoms are on frying pan for last two days seeing Modi getting unprecedented Welcome in China and witnessing good example of Indo-China bilateral-ism.

    Only things those are making headlines are what Modi has allegedly missed when all the essential issues have been strongly/upfront raised which no Congi pussyfooter have had done, not to mention his visit is still not concluded.

    Like I said Indians know no good propaganda and are myopic when it comes to foreign policy issues.

    In statecraft story of a 'sugarcane farmer and two intruders' comes quite handy. India will always try to not make China a branded enemy and the same I can see China will try to avoid given what is happening around her especially South China Sea.

    People those who claim to be so called Pakistan watcher have missed a very important signal coming out of Pakistan that, China has told them to bring their misadventures with neighboring country many notches down for sake of Chinese investment. Only dilemma left for Pakistan is that they do not want to do it without reciprocity from India. That explains why PA has started accusing RAW openly. I admit the recent attack in Kabul is not fitting the pieces of this jigsaw puzzle which I have tried to give an answer in another thread.
     
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    Yes the whole world knows that the Chinese are illegally occupying Tibet and Aksai Chin. I thank you for reiterating that point.
     
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  10. ArmchairGeneral

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    Sir, can you please expand on this
     
  11. rock127

    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Make a Chinese map with a Japanese flag on it. :lol:

    :japan: :japan: :japan: :japan: :japan:
     
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    I think instead of Japanese flag one should use vietnam flag..Because vietnam is only country which irritate china.
     
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    Just like in India, there are presstitudes paid by the "divide and conquer" gang and "regime change"mafia ruling the World. This map is published by these presstitutes to create a rift and promote hatred between India and China. They are very afraid of two great ancient civilizations coming together....it will not only challenge their greedy, narcissistic, selfish value system but corrode their hundreds of billions of dollars of profits they are dreaming selling weapons to India to "counter" China. If India and China refuse to be enemies, these greedy profiteers will not win. Harmony and peaceful coexistence is what I wish for the two giant nations.
    Let there be joint summit including Japan, Vietnam, Korea, India ,and China PLUS other Uniter nations.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    I got better idea...I was just creating it so... below is the new Chinese map... :india: :india: :india: :india: :india: :rofl:


    [​IMG]
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    And the Chinese soldiers setting up camps in Indian side were presstitutes as well? :dude:
     
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    No need of whole china .. tibet is enough to burn their A$$...:rofl:
     
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    From where I should start ? Most of us bloggers who take interest in World affairs sometime get carried away with how and what of information. But we don't care why it has been presented to us; maybe we are lazy and it takes a lot of time to understand.

    It started with Chinese President postponing his visit to Pakistan but continued with Indian visit. All three parties on internet, Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese (who are Pakistan apologists) took that visit as per their own digital egos and gave it their own twists. Indians mocked Pakistan; Pakistan down played it and Chinese like they are saying the same today were arrogant, telling Indian that India is insignificant.

    All three were wrong.

    The XI visit to India was fruitful with plenty of optics, conviviality and good amount of promised investment. During his visit a rouge PLA unit created drama at LAC. When XI returned back a News came out of China warning PLA that XI (Political leadership) is the ultimate authority in China. It was signal to Chinese military establishment to stay obedient. Interestingly XI asked them to prepare for regional war which I think was said in the same paragraph just to make the first message less blunt and obfuscating to the outside world that there is no traction. I bet that rough unit must have been reprimanded as well.

    XI visit with promise of investment ticked one marker of improving ties between India and China i.e. the money trail. It was independent of what Pakistan may think, especially in the backdrop of postponed Pakistan visit. If China was to be so sensitive about Pakistan there would have been no money trail.

    Coming back to Pakistan, any good Pakistan watcher would have picked an important information from Pakistani media discourse during that time that Chinese leadership is angry with Pakistan. Since then plenty of persuasion was done by Pakistan to convince Chinese leadership and many offensives were launched by PA against terrorists to sound that they are taking their internal stability very seriously. They celebrated their ''Azadi day something'' was part of that larger effort.

    Chinese like any investor would value the fact that stability of the region they are investing is paramount, they would venture into Pakistan if Pakistan can assure them the security. This has been discussed in Pakistani media that there is paradigm shift the way Pakistan has been looking after its internal security matters and foreign policy. Rather Nazam Sethi has categorically said the " now there will be no Jihadi support in Kashmir'' and " no day dreaming of strategic depth in Afghanistan".

    The present COAS who has been handpicked by Nawaj Sharif stood by him during Imran's mass protests. He is leading the whole operation to make sure the investment environment becomes more conducive. Having said that, all these operation are resulting in sever backlash which I don't think any sane Indian would read as worsening situation in Pakistan or Pakistan imploding but a desperate last attempt of those Pakistan breed terrorists now getting culled by the same hand who nourished them.

    Since there is plenty of backlashes, Pakistani establishment is seeing everyone with suspicion and rightly so, which includes India as well. They are begging Afghans, they cannot do the same with Indians (I think they should try) for obvious egoistic reasons.

    Call me over optimistic, but trust me I can raise doubts on my own theory with many divergent signals. I would rather request you and other posters to cast doubts on my theory with specific reasons so that we can discuss it further.

    It is a separate discussion on Chinese investment in Pakistan as far its economical nuances are concern and we very well know who owe more to either and who is the beggar with no choice. But at the end of the day If Pakistan be able to pull it out it will be considered as FDI for Pakistan. India can use this Pakistani dependency of China to make them realize that they have much to lose unlike what have been saying to us that they have nothing to lose. The current Modi visit will also give Pakistanis a reality check.

    I think it is right opportunity for Pakistan to become worth a nation who doesn’t waste its energy suspecting so many entities but few or even none. Pakistan should mend its bravado and detox its troll brigade who from streets to LOC and LOC to Internet create vicious environment against its neighbors, not to mention many establishment brats who dream of avenging 1971 from India.
     
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    Excellent write up.

    1. How does Kabul attack factor into this? What is the motivation here?

    2. Even though PoK is a lost cause, India can exercise its objection during the bilateral meet. Why hasn't it done so and what are the complications arising from this? We all know how touchy China was about Jap construction in NE.

    3. If Pakistan ISI genuinely wants to reduce its ops in J&K, why have we seen a counter rise of such anti-RAW rhetoric in recent times? What is the message here?

    4. What evidence exists of Chinese leadership anger at Pak? How will Uyghur situation complicate this?

    5. Gwadar corridor is part of string of pearls Indian encirclent. How and why does China expect Indian cooperation? Why will Najam Sethi's claim that "no more jihadi in Kashmir" help China or pak?

    6. How does Pak media view indo-china ties?

    Also, can you expand upon this for me "India can use this Pakistani dependency of China to make them realize that they have much to lose unlike what have been saying to us that they have nothing to lose. The current Modi visit will also give Pakistanis a reality check."
     
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    No cause is lost till there is but one guy ready to fight for it. POK is strategically important from two perspective:

    1. It sends a direct signal that India won't compromise on her territorial integrity. We will take it back even if it will take us 100 years of preparation.

    2. It provides us direct land access to Afghanistan and Central Asia.

    I am sure that while covering Chinese president's India visit all Indian Media channels must have shown the "official" Indian map. On border issues India and China are not on the same page, we cannot ignore the divergence but we must not give too much notice to the map issue either.
     
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    @hit&run

    Too many assumptions here.

    1) Pakistan is not going to give up its war ideology against India. I do not see it happening in near future. International or Chinese pressure does not count.

    2) Your whole post follows from the premise that Chinese incursion during Xi's India visit was independent action of a rogue unit. It is too difficult to believe this assumption.
     

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