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Dangerous if the project actually materialises. May be disasterous for the ecology also.
Brahmaputra as Tsangpo in Tibet carry 10-15% of water from Tibet , it's actually not gonna effect us much except Summer season ,also it's dangerous for Bangladesh too, let see what Modi going to do if the news is true , but if they try to do that after being inspired by destruction done by soviet to Amu and sin Dariya and think they can kill us by thirst...then they going to get slap on face :shoot::shoot::shoot::shoot:...

also they probably see their nuclear slave gonna seriously die by water shortage for sure :biggrin2:
 

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Not possible to hurt India as there are many tributaries of Brahmaputra river and it is not financially viable for China to divert them. Plus we don't utilize even 20% of its water. I would rather call it good for India as it will reduce the access water in Assam region and India can think about better water management according to it own needs.

But if Bangladesh protests, then just tell them to stop trade with China as they are the main culprits.:biggrin2:

#BaniyeKaDimaag :hail:
 

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Dangerous if the project actually materialises. May be disasterous for the ecology also.
I was just waiting for this news when India stepped forward to work on IWT. This way China is trying to save its illegitimate child by pressurizing India.
 

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I was just waiting for this news when India stepped forward to work on IWT. This way China is trying to save its illegitimate child by pressurizing India.
China can at best divert 20% of Brahmaputra waters.Plus instead of India they will end up harming Bangladesh more.IWT is a goner whatever China does will not matter.
 

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China can at best divert 20% of Brahmaputra waters.Plus instead of India they will end up harming Bangladesh more.IWT is a goner whatever China does will not matter.
You didn't got the point. Even if they divert 5% of it, there would be a political turmoil in Assam. Moreover they would make Bangladesh exert pressure on India for this.
 

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You didn't got the point. Even if they divert 5% of it, there would be a political turmoil in Assam. Moreover they would make Bangladesh exert pressure on India for this.
Why will bangladesh exert pressure on India?
 

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China is playing nothing but a psy-war when it comes to Brahmaputra. We are on the advantageous side, thanks to Mother Nature. To understand more on what I mean, would suggest you to read this full thread. A pretty long one, but brilliantly explained.

 

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Why will bangladesh exert pressure on India?
Unlike the stupids in our western border, China is too clever to change geo politics. It has invested in politburo of both India and B'desh unlike Pakis who have financed the stone pelters and extremist.

Now stopping water of a major river, no matter how negligible it is, would create a huge public uproar in Assam. Same is the case with B'desh. You only have to spread a bit of propaganda from well financed political parties and top it up with some data from environmentalist. Now opposition would have a field day to highlight how government had failed with its foreign policy making.

@Nanjesh Patel .... These data is good for those who would read and think logically. But in case of Assam, even the news that China would be stopping water is enough to light a fire. Now this situation is a double edged sword. You could use it to slash of Chinese or you would get cut by it.
 

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Just trying to figure out who was the intended audience of this false Brahmutra diversion report. It definitely is the handy work of the Chinese who are using the Indian media enthusiasm to pick up any foolish report to mislead us.

Chinese know that 1,000 Mile tunnel is not worth the effort for not so great amount of water in Brahmaputra at the great bend. Brahmaputra becomes a mighty river after it crosses into India after the great bend and a huge steep gradient which gives it its character. The Tibatan part of the river does not have great amount of water just the snow melt. The main source of water is the monsoon rainfall which happens on this side of Himalayas and not in Tibet.

I always worry about the quality of Indian journalists and editors who do not verify the story independently.
 

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Relax guys! Check this out.....

China denies plan to make 1,000-km tunnel to divert Brahmaputra waters

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...ia-three-gorges-dam-bangladesh/1/1079009.html
Before relaxing I read the article. It also says that a 600km water tunnel project is alrdy under progress in Yunnan prov. Which could be a demo for bigger projects in future. Plus there are many dams being built over Bramhaputra in Tibet. So may be China is testing waters of what it may do in future. Afterall China is a chameleon/ lizard....
 

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Off course, not all of us are blessed enough to join the 50 CENT COMMANDO REGIMENT like you.
Well, obviously, you are blessed enough to be the STUPID COMMANDO REGIMENT.
Razor sharp wit of CCP, ladies and gentlemen.
I guess someone just too stupid to see the potential of this market even if you only get 6 months access.
Says who? Share a goddamn source or STFU. Only a moron would use roads for long distance transportation.

https://freighthub.com/en/blog/modes-transportation-explained-best/

Sell your snake oil to Pakis. We are not interested.
 

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The cost of transportation by sea is 16 times cheaper than by road over the same distance.

The Chinks and especially the Porkis keep spinning yarns about the Central Asian nations as well as Turkey wanting to join the CPEC!! Really? Let's check it out in the map below. The Central Asian Republics already have direct access by road to the Middle East and Europe including gas and oil pipelines. Why in the name of Allah would they even think of using the CPEC (marked in green) to get there? It's like trying to catch your nose from behind your head!! Lol!

Trans Asian Road Network.

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@Mikesingh Chinis, not so much. Fools don't get to become the largest economy, Pakis however is going through another bout of colonization and are paying for it out of their pocket.

There is not a single Paki in this or any other forum who can explain CPEC to a third party. Chinis are there to loot, plain and simple.
 

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@Mikesingh Chinis, not so much. Fools don't get to become the largest economy, Pakis however is going through another bout of colonization and are paying for it out of their pocket.

There is not a single Paki in this or any other forum who can explain CPEC to a third party. Chinis are there to loot, plain and simple.
Man!!! you are trying to mix paki and the word "explain"
Logic doesnt work with pakis..what will they explain.They can only vomit what ISPR and chinki monkeys made them eat :D

They are like really low level organism which just respond to stimulus(in this case a false case of economic stimulus) without thinking
 

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China’s Silk Road hits a roadblock

From a stalled Indonesian rail project to an insurgency-threatened economic corridor in Pakistan, China’s push to revive Silk Road trade routes is running into problems that risk tarnishing the economic crown jewel of Xi Jinping’s presidency.

The “One Belt, One Road” initiative, unveiled by Xi in 2013, envisages linking China with Africa, Asia and Europe through a network of ports, railways, roads and industrial parks.

Xi, the most powerful Chinese leader in decades, has pushed the infrastructure drive which is central to his goal of extending Beijing’s economic and geopolitical clout.

The initiative was enshrined in the Communist Party’s constitution at a key congress last month, and some estimates say more than $1 trillion has been pledged to it, with projects proposed in some 65 countries.

But on the ground it has run into problems. Projects traverse insurgency-hit areas, dictatorships and chaotic democracies, and face resistance from both corrupt politicians and local villagers.


“Building infrastructure across countries like this is very complicated,” said Murray Hiebert, from Washington think tank the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), who has studied some of the projects in Southeast Asia.

“You’ve got land issues, you have to hammer out funding agreements, you have to hammer out technological issues.”

Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying however insisted the initiative was “moving forward smoothly”.

Beijing won the contract to build Indonesia’s first high-speed railway in September 2015, but more than two years later work has barely started on the route from Jakarta to the city of Bandung.

A recent visit to Walini, where President Joko Widodo broke ground on the train line in January last year, found excavators flattening land but no track laid for the train, which is meant to start operating in 2019.

“The first year after the ground-breaking ceremony, I did not see any progress at all,” Neng Sri, a 37-year-old food stall owner from nearby Mandala Mukti village, told AFP.


The central problem has been persuading villagers to leave their land on the proposed route, which is often an issue in the chaotic, freewheeling democracy.

The Indonesian transport ministry declined to give an update on the project and the consortium of Chinese and Indonesian companies building the line did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

On another planned high-speed line from southern China to Singapore, the Thai stretch of the railway was delayed by tussles over financing and protective labour regulations, and it was only in July that the military government finally approved $5.2 billion to start construction.

Work is under way on the 415-kilometre (260-mile) part of the line in Laos, a staunch ally of Beijing.

But even there the project has stoked controversy due to its huge price tag—at $5.8 billion, roughly half the country’s 2015 GDP—and the question of how much deeply poor Laos will gain from the project.


There have been concerns in many countries about how much they will benefit from One Belt, One Road initiatives.

Gains for China, such as access to key markets and tackling overcapacity in domestic industries, are often more obvious than those for their partners.

Such worries have bedevilled projects in Central Asia, part of a potential route from western China to Europe.

These include a free trade zone at Horgos on the China-Kazakh border, notable for flashy malls on the Chinese side and relatively little on the Kazakh side, and a planned railway to Uzbekistan that has stalled in large part due to opposition in Kyrgyzstan, through which the line would run.

“I am against this railway as it stands because the financial benefits that could accrue to Kyrgyzstan accrue to (China and Uzbekistan) instead,” said Timur Saralayev, head of the Bishkek-based New Generation movement.


The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a $54-billion project launched in 2013 linking western China to the Indian Ocean via Pakistan, has been targeted by separatist rebels in Balochistan province, who have blown up gas pipelines and trains and attacked Chinese engineers.

But the Chinese foreign ministry :pound:spokeswoman Hua :pound:insisted the One Belt, One Road initiative enjoyed broad support.:pound::pound:

“We have seen more and more support and approval of our projects. Many projects have delivered tangible benefits to the people in these countries,” she said.

The view from the ground, however, is not always so positive.

“The high-speed train... is only for super busy people who think time is money,” said the villager Sri, who lives next to the Indonesian rail project.

“We are not rushing to go anywhere.”


http://www.livemint.com/Politics/oP...hinas-Silk-Road-revival-hits-the-buffers.html
 

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https://www.oneindia.com/internatio...-china-imposes-strict-conditions-2583932.html

Pak drops dam project in PoK after China imposes strict conditions

Written By: Vicky Nanjappa

Published:November 16 2017, 5:54 [IST]

Pakistan has been struggling to raise money from international institutions like the World Bank in the face of Indian opposition to the project on the Indus River in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a part of Chinese President Xi Jinping's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), runs through PoK and India has raised objection to the project.

Neither the World Bank and Asian Development Bank (ADB) nor China would finance the dam, therefore, the government decided to construct the reservoir from its own resources, the Express Tribune today quoted Water Resources Secretary Shumail Khawaja as saying.
 

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