OBOR News & Developments

[sthf]

@amoy I can provide you the sources for pricing if you want.

Power shortages and power surplus are regional issues. Some states have surplus power while some suffer from shortages. Problem is that transmission losses prevents them from selling power to each other. Surplus power in Gujarat can be transferred to Pakistan but not to Delhi.

 

[Mikesingh]

Nice discussion on the CPEC/OBOR on Chinese media.......

 

[airtel]

What're u talking about?

China is a big coal IMPORTER. How comes exporting 'special grade coal" to Pakistan?

There're suppliers galore worldwide hungry for orders, when demand is weak.


Coal Exports by Country
Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of coal during 2016:

1. Australia: US$28.3 billion (38% of total coal exports)
2. Indonesia: $12.9 billion (17.3%)
3. Russia: $8.9 billion (12%)
4. United States: $4.4 billion (6%)
5. Colombia: $4.4 billion (5.9%)
6. South Africa: $3.9 billion (5.2%)
7. Canada: $3.4 billion (4.5%)
8. Netherlands: $2.3 billion (3.2%)
9. North Korea: $1.2 billion (1.6%)
10. Mongolia: $994.4 million (1.3%)

I thought China is adopting renewable sources of energy like solar , wind & nuclear energy and china will shift (sell ) it's coal based old plants to Pakistan and make money from it.

 

[Mikesingh]

I thought China is adopting renewable sources of energy like solar , wind & nuclear energy and china will shift (sell ) it's coal based old plants to Pakistan and make money from it.

Though the most significant use of coal is in electricity generation, it is also used for steel production, cement manufacturing and as a liquid fuel. Coking coal - also known as metallurgical coal - is mainly used in steel production.

 

[no smoking]

We do have other lot of excuses to have war. Even current ongoing confrontation. Nor, China is going to directly involve in an Indo Pakistani war as their fanboys dream.

If there is a big war between India and Pakistan, as long as it is kept in conventional war, it will be the best thing happens to everyone else. How many military equipment orders will be put out? How many after-war rebuilding contracts can foreign builders earn? You guys will be the big saver of the world economy!

Unfortunately, both countries are run by intelligent people, not fanboys on the internet. Chinese may not get involved as much as Pakistan fanboys think. India won't be stupid enough to start a war in near future as Indian fanboys suggest.

Too bad for everyone else.

As long as Pakistan is there. LOL

I guess you already repeat this for 60 years.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

If there is a big war between India and Pakistan, as long as it is kept in conventional war, it will be the best thing happens to everyone else. How many military equipment orders will be put out?

Done in case of one side?
The other one, how much credits?

How many after-war rebuilding contracts can foreign builders earn?

Again one side, other builds 25kms per day and lot of buildings. We have plenty of construction firms.

Unfortunately, both countries are run by intelligent people, not fanboys on the internet.

Such superb intelligence that raises Kashmir issue even in WHO.
Seriously, what Pakistan gets by provoking everywhere?
From NSG to UNSC.

India won't be stupid enough to start a war in near future as Indian fanboys suggest.

At least, reasonlessly may be fanboyism but we're talkin about reasons here.

Too bad for everyone else.

Ya sure?

I guess you already repeat this for 60 years.

Half down, half more.

 

[PSYOP]

KATHMANDU, May 30: While terming Nepal's decision to join the Chinese-initiated One Belt One Road (OBOR) initiative, Chairman of CPN-UML K P Sharma Oli has said that it would help reduce Nepal's heavy reliance on India.

Addressing a function organized by the International Concern Center (ICC) in the capital Tuesday, Chairman Oli said that the decision of his government to sign trade and transit treaties with China had already started undoing Nepal's sole dependence on India and the recent agreement with China on OBOR was a continuation of this.

“We have broken our total dependence on one country. The signing of OBOR is a continuation of the trade and transit treaties [reached earlier with China],” said Oli. “This is a historic opportunity as well. This success has taken our achievement to a new height.”

Nepal signed the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on OBOR last month after prolonged indecision. “Big countries should not think about their own interests alone. All neighbors should be taken on board in the development process,” he said, adding that OBOR is not lip service but a real commitment that China has made towards the development of its neighbors.

Also speaking on the occasion, former finance minister Dr Ram Sharan Mahat said Nepal remained constrained for a long time due to its landlocked situation. “In the past, there used to be trade with central Asian countries via Nepal,” said Mahat. “The British wanted to bring the railway they built in Darjeeling up to Kathmandu. But the conservative rulers of the time did not allow it.” Mahat said OBOR is not limited to connectivity alone, but is also concerned with transfer of knowledge, trade and peace.

CPN-UML leader Pradip Gyawali said the rail network that is soon to link up with Nepal must be developed along the north-south corridors. Former governor of Nepal Rastra Bank Yuvraj Khatiwada pointed out the need to further enhance bilateral financial interaction with China if Nepal is to benefit from OBOR

http://www.myrepublica.com/news/20981/

 

[Srinivas_K]

Nepal is a window for India w.r.t OBOR. Do not think Baniyas are dumb.

 

[brational]

Waiting for the cost-benefit analysis of Nepal-China OBOR.
What will be the transit cost of Diesel /petrol from China to Nepal along with other goods? What will Nepal export to China? Electricity?

Oil prices will be exorbitantly high if transported through OBOR. Well, that will be cost Nepalese will be paying to end dependency on one country. India should increase the Oil prices so that Nepal get to taste the cost of dependency on China. Free movement should be stopped and let Nepalese apply for work visa. Reduce grants and doles and stop indians from investing in Nepal.

Once Nepal implement visa on Indians, middle-class Indian tourists will stop visiting Nepal. Domestic tourism will get a boost.

Good for Nepal, good for India.

 

[Mikesingh]

Waiting for the cost-benefit analysis of Nepal-China OBOR.
What will be the transit cost of Diesel /petrol from China to Nepal along with other goods? What will Nepal export to China? Electricity?

Oil prices will be exorbitantly high if transported through OBOR. Well, that will be cost Nepalese will be paying to end dependency on one country. India should increase the Oil prices so that Nepal get to taste the cost of dependency on China. Free movement should be stopped and let Nepalese apply for work visa. Reduce grants and doles and stop indians from investing in Nepal.

Apart from diesel /petrol, even vegetables, fruit, spices etc that they are receiving from India will be 10 times costlier if got from China. These Nepalese need to do their homework first before they get stuck in a quagmire like Sri Lanka and Porkistan.

 

[Motti]

OBOR will ultimately force Nepal to turn to India for protection as the Chinese -- true to history -- will definitely start demanding "land for lease" in lieu of payments. All India has to do is wait and watch and allow China to expend more money than it can afford.

 

[Bornubus]

Safeguards to prevent blockade like in 2015

 

[AnantS]

Safeguards to prevent blockade like in 2015

unless china subsidizes that "safeguards" for longtime for Nepal, they are going to be expensive for country like Nepal. Though we can thank commies and congies for current situation in Indo-nepal relations.

 

[Mikesingh]

I shudder when I see that governments like Nepal, Porkistan, Sri Lanka etc failing to read the small print in their contracts with commie China who think only in terms of their own strategic and economic interests. They care a hoot for countries they do business with. And see what's happening! They are being sold out to China bit by bit and yet continue to be taken for a ride by them.

Incomprehensible!! Are these governments that dumb? But then again, hat's off to the Chinese for luring them with the moolah. The color of money is too tempting to resist. As they say, it's the money that makes the mare go!

 

[roma]

THE PILLAGING OF RESOURCES IN BALOCHISTAN IS ABOUT TO BEGIN ON A LARGE SALE

quote
https://www.dawn.com/news/1336981/chinese-silk-road-firms-to-help-balochistan-mine-minerals

Chinese 'Silk Road' firms to help Balochistan mine minerals
ReutersUpdated about 4 hours ago

The government of resource-rich Balochistan wants Chinese companies to kick-start a boom in its mining industry by including the sector into Beijing's Belt and Road Initiative, a senior provincial mining official said.

Mineral extraction is a deeply contentious issue in Balochistan, where many indigenous people are angry that the province remains the country's poorest despite its vast mineral wealth.

end of quote

 

[Compersion]

Pakistan and USA are close ...

Nepal and PRC are close ...

Nepal iron brother is ... Pakistan iron brother is ... some will say please prc get close to Nepal

 

[Flame Thrower]

This is the END of Nepal. Sri Lanka stronger economy with stronger economy is struggling to pay debt.

I'd really love to see how Nepal does!!??

@Srinivas_K, I don't think China would allow us to use Nepal as window to OBOR. We might also have to pay additional taxes to Nepal.

 

[roma]

Pakistan and USA are close ..Nepal and PRC are close ...
Nepal iron brother is ... Pakistan iron brother is ... some will say please prc get close to Nepal

well iron has a tendency to rust and then fall off !!

my take is that packland will not pay and will lead the rebellion against china to not pay

so china will be left with uncollected accounts payable ---- tell me they are going to invade all these countries ?

packland will refuse to give more land , all the others will follow suit and start pointing fingers at china

@PSYOP @Srinivas_K @brational @Mikesingh @Motti @Flame Thrower

 

[Srinivas_K]

This is the END of Nepal. Sri Lanka stronger economy with stronger economy is struggling to pay debt.

I'd really love to see how Nepal does!!??

@Srinivas_K, I don't think China would allow us to use Nepal as window to OBOR. We might also have to pay additional taxes to Nepal.

Indians can invest in Nepal.
.......................

 

[Mikesingh]

packland will refuse to give more land , all the others will follow suit and start pointing fingers at china

Porkistan is already in the process of leasing out Balochistan to the Chinks for exploration of rare metals and minerals which some say is worth billions of dollars. The Pakis will be paid nominal lease charges and crumbs from the spoils! This arrangement will last till the Porks are able to pay China back for the loans taken for the CPEC etc, which will be never!

So in effect, Balochistan will be China's till kingdom come!