Objective Perspective of Russian Arsenal

Do you believe these short documentaries gave an objective perspective?

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JBH22

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Grozny Assault. Survivors from Maikop brigade.


1st Grozny Assault. Stories from Frontline (with ENG subs)


Sprut-SD. The 125 mm air-droppable tank.

 
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'Pechora-2M' Air Defence System. Part 1.


'Pechora-2M' Air Defence System. Part 2

 
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08.08.08 Russia Georgia South Ossetia war TRUTH EXPOSE documentary
LOL Russian propaganda and imperialism at its finest. This is why I do not have much faith in journalism in the modern age, no matter where you go; most of the time the reporting tends to be one-sided. The Russians here are clearly trying to paint themselves as liberators, but they also committed similar war crimes themselves in this war and also in Chechnya, killing and displacing civillians. Indeed Russia is no longer a free and democratic country, but a mafia state. Wikileaks which was ironically set up to promote a left wing political bias and agenda has proved this very point.

Make Putin Pay - Interesting political thought on the subject.

Just my two cents, I guess any idiot can slap "TRUTH EXPOSED" onto a 'documentary' and people will eat it up.
 

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LOL Russian propaganda and imperialism at its finest. This is why I do not have much faith in journalism in the modern age, no matter where you go; most of the time the reporting tends to be one-sided. The Russians here are clearly trying to paint themselves as liberators, but they also committed similar war crimes themselves in this war and also in Chechnya, killing and displacing civillians. Indeed Russia is no longer a free and democratic country, but a mafia state. Wikileaks which was ironically set up to promote a left wing political bias and agenda has proved this very point.
Quite frankly, Russia had a much better cassus belli in the South Ossetia War than America/NATO did in Iraq (what was their cassus belli again?). Russian peacekeepers were attacked in South Ossetia by Goeorgian forces, along with South Ossetian civilians, and unsurprisingly, Russian forces counterattacked.

If Russia is 'imperialist' for fighting a five-day conflict that with minimal casualties and no territorial changes, what exactly does that make America/NATO?

You probably assumed Russia was the 'bad guy' in the conflict before even reading anything about it, which is typical of neocons.
 

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Quite frankly, Russia had a much better cassus belli in the South Ossetia War than America/NATO did in Iraq (what was their cassus belli again?). Russian peacekeepers were attacked in South Ossetia by Goeorgian forces, along with South Ossetian civilians, and unsurprisingly, Russian forces counterattacked.

If Russia is 'imperialist' for fighting a five-day conflict that with minimal casualties and no territorial changes, what exactly does that make America/NATO?

You probably assumed Russia was the 'bad guy' in the conflict before even reading anything about it, which is typical of neocons.
Amerika and NATO are not imperial power for land anymore, what they are is an Imperial power for money and resources(money). Their main objective is to baptize the world to capitalism be it to China or Saudi Arabia, as long as someone plays the capitalist card democracy can wait.
 

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Amerika and NATO are not imperial power for land anymore, what they are is an Imperial power for money and resources(money). Their main objective is to baptize the world to capitalism be it to China or Saudi Arabia, as long as someone plays the capitalist card democracy can wait.
Yes, this is called 'neocolonialism'. Yanks and Euros realized that they can't control territory directly anymore, so instead they strangled third world countries economically, while obtaining valuable resources from them. This is most apparent in Latin America and Africa.
 

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Quite frankly, Russia had a much better cassus belli in the South Ossetia War than America/NATO did in Iraq (what was their cassus belli again?). Russian peacekeepers were attacked in South Ossetia by Goeorgian forces, along with South Ossetian civilians, and unsurprisingly, Russian forces counterattacked.

If Russia is 'imperialist' for fighting a five-day conflict that with minimal casualties and no territorial changes, what exactly does that make America/NATO?

You probably assumed Russia was the 'bad guy' in the conflict before even reading anything about it, which is typical of neocons.
...And like a typical Marxist, you make assumptions and attacks without any basis, followed by a Tu Quoque about Iraq that is unrelated to the subject matter, and laughable to compare. Even if you don't accept the arguments for regime change in Iraq, that doesn't take away from the argument of Russian imperialism in this manner. Territorial changes lol, so what major territorial changes happened in Iraq? Russian troops not only mobilized into South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but also into neighboring Georgian territory, killing and displacing civilians in their wake just like the Georgians they are quick to condemn. Where exactly is the correlation with Iraq? The US was removing a dictatorship, where as in this conflict a mafia state is invading a democracy that coincidentally is friendly to NATO, also around the same time they have been making economic threats to Eastern European countries for developing stronger relations with the west.

Edit - Also I wonder where exactly you got the point that a length of a conflict, or the volume of civilians casualties on either side automatically co-incides with whether a conflict is imperialistic or not? If intervening because members of your country are being killed by an enemy state, then that would also make the Iraq war justified, but such arguments can be deceiving and I wouldn't accept that kind of logic alone just for a military engagement.
 
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Voennoe Delo: The most powerful mortar in the World - Russian "Tulpan" (English subtitles)


Voennoe Delo: Weapon of Counter-Terrorism! Assault complex "Groza" (English subtitles)


Voennoe Delo: Military Correspondent of WW II. Eastern Front. (English subtitles)


PS:Guys keep the discussion to strict minimum its mostly a Pic&Video thread thanks
 
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...And like a typical Marxist, you make assumptions and attacks without any basis, followed by a Tu Quoque about Iraq that is unrelated to the subject matter, and laughable to compare. Even if you don't accept the arguments for regime change in Iraq, that doesn't take away from the argument of Russian imperialism in this manner. Territorial changes lol, so what major territorial changes happened in Iraq? Russian troops not only mobilized into South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but also into neighboring Georgian territory, killing and displacing civilians in their wake just like the Georgians they are quick to condemn. Where exactly is the correlation with Iraq? The US was removing a dictatorship, where as in this conflict a mafia state is invading a democracy that coincidentally is friendly to NATO, also around the same time they have been making economic threats to Eastern European countries for developing stronger relations with the west.
Guy, if you think 200 civilian casualties in Georgia (according to Georgian sources) in a five-day conflict is the same as hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in a ten-year long conflict, then you must be smoking some really strong stuff.

I mentioned territorial changes only because imperialist conflicts generally include some sort of territory or resource handed over to the aggressor, but this was not the case of the South Ossetia War. The fact is, this so-called "democracy" in Georgia initiated the conflict, and it got the thrashing that it deserved.

Edit - Also I wonder where exactly you got the point that a length of a conflict, or the volume of civilians casualties on either side automatically co-incides with whether a conflict is imperialistic or not? If intervening because members of your country are being killed by an enemy state, then that would also make the Iraq war justified, but such arguments can be deceiving and I wouldn't accept that kind of logic alone just for a military engagement.
LOL, what Americans were killed by Iraq? Or are you one of this loonies who still believe Bush's blatant lie that Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks?

The fact is, American aircraft were bombing Iraq even prior to the official declaration of war in 2003, though I don't expect you to know that.
 

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Where exactly is the correlation with Iraq? The US was removing a dictatorship, where as in this conflict a mafia state is invading a democracy that coincidentally is friendly to NATO, also around the same time they have been making economic threats to Eastern European countries for developing stronger relations with the west.
Georgia under Saakashvili is a democracy? Oh well, whatever floats your boat.

By the way, what do you typically eat for breakfast? A tie? LOL. Just kidding!
 

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Russian Mini Series (Storm Gates with English Subtitles)

Grozovye Vorota (1-4)


Grozovye Vorota (2-4)


Grozovye Vorota (3-4)


Grozovye Vorota (4-4)

 
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Voennoe Delo: Full Automatic Pistols by Stechkin. The APS, PSM, Drotik, Berdish. (English subtitles)


Voennoe Delo: Horses at service of modern Board Guard Forces in Russian Army (English subtitles)


Voennoe Delo: Soviet Tactical Ballistic Missile OKA - The victim of politicians. (English Subtitles)

 
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we purchase russian weapons mainly they r cheap and hardy,and moreover the sells do not attach any string or pre condition.
 

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this is sad Russian propaganda is still considered the truth in India this days :pound:
this is even worse then future weapons total propaganda
it's smart propaganda they don't lie they simply avoid some facts:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:
 

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this is sad Russian propaganda is still considered the truth in India this days :pound:
this is even worse then future weapons total propaganda
it's smart propaganda they don't lie they simply avoid some facts:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:
Future weapons that's a piece of shit this program the guy always whisper as to Voenno delo its not a flawless piece of work,but still it does not exaggerate with lines such as "the bad guys are dead"

PS;Its a video thread do not make it a discussion one
 

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Pantsir-S1 Air Defense Missile/Gun System


Anti-tank system METIS M-1


Rocket Flamethrower Shmel-M


Tunguska -M1 air defence system


No English Subtitles but you can easily figure out what it says
 
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Voennoe Delo: Russian Army Self-Propelled Assault Artillery "Nona" and "Vena"


Voennoe Delo: It was the first! Soviet IFV BMP-1!


Voennoe Delo: Anti-Terrorism revolver system "Udar"

 
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Voennoe Delo: Mountain Training in modern Russian Army



Voennoe Delo: BMP-3 of Russian Army


Voennoe Delo: Soviet Armored River Boats "BKA" on Eastern Front

 
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Voennoe Delo: BMD-1! The first in the World Airborne Fighting Vehicle


Voennoe Delo: Airborne Fighting Vehicle - BMD-2




Voennoe Delo: BMD-3! Airborne Fighting Vehicle of Russian VDV


Smotr: BMD-4! The best Airborne Fighting Vehicle for Russian Paratroopers

 
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