NY judge : Iran, Taliban, al-Qaida liable for 9/11 .

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  1. Zebra

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    DECEMBER 22, 2011, 9:13 P.M. ET.

    NEW YORK — A federal judge has signed a default judgment finding Iran, the Taliban and al-Qaida liable in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

    Judge George Daniels in Manhattan signed the judgment Thursday, a week after hearing testimony in the 10-year-old case. The signed ruling, which he promised last week, came in a $100 billion lawsuit brought by family members of victims of the attacks. He directed a magistrate judge to preside over remaining issues, including fixing compensatory and punitive damages.

    Daniels signed findings of fact saying the plaintiffs had established that the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were caused by the support the defendants provided to al-Qaida. The findings also said Iran continues to provide material support and resources to al-Qaida by providing a safe haven for al-Qaida leadership and rank-and-file al-Qaida members.

    During last week's open-court hearing, family members of Sept. 11 victims sat through a four-hour presentation from attorneys who cited evidence supporting their claims that Iran actively assisted the hijackers of planes that crashed into the World Trade Center towers, at the Pentagon and into a field in Pennsylvania. Former members of the 9/11 Commission and three Iranian defectors also spoke.

    It would be near impossible to collect any damages, especially from the Taliban or al-Qaida.

    Iran has not commented on the ruling. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has repeatedly denied any Iranian connection in the Sept. 11 attacks or with al-Qaida. Saudi Arabia had been knocked out of the lawsuit, but lawyers filed papers on Thursday to reinstate Saudi Arabia as a defendant.

    Lawyers for the plaintiffs did not immediately return telephone calls seeking comment.

    NY judge: Iran, Taliban, al-Qaida liable for 9/11 - WSJ.com
     
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  3. W.G.Ewald

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    Plaintiffs should go after Saudi Arabia.
     
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    First they said IRAQ, Taliban and Al-Qaeda and now they say it is IRAN. Next they will say another and it will not be late before the name of pakistan comes into the context. It is like the western world is planning to weaken the ISLAMIC WORLD. Lets see what happens
     
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    Iran and Taliban despise each other. They're even worse enemies than Wahabis and kafirs. :lol:. US is seriously off its horse now.
     
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    Just gathering momentum to attack Iran. And the irony of it is that all the attackers were Saudis, but they would never be implicated. Judge? Or puppet?
     
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    What bullshit. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of history and geopolitics knows that Iran and Taliban/al-Qaeda would never cooperate on anything. This is just a cheap way of forging a casus belli, just as Bushy did with Iraq shortly after 9/11.

    Now would be a good time for Iran to get nukes. It needs them.
     
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    Because of what a judge in NYC does? Jesus Christ, I hope your finger never gets on the nuke button anywhere.

     
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    not a year goes by that the taliban or al-qaida or both dont bomb shia gatherings on moharrum.

    this is misinformation and its done before any invasion.
     
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    Did you hear the evidence presented?

    How can you say it is misinformation? There will be no invasion; perhaps freezing of Iran assets here if there are any. I don't see a judge sending federal marshals to Tehran.
     
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    I Agree with Messiah. This is the starting of another invasion by the Americans and it is time for IRAN.
     
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    and what is the evidence ?
     
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    You could order a transcript from the court.
     
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    During last week's open-court hearing, family members of Sept. 11 victims sat through a four-hour presentation from attorneys who cited evidence supporting their claims that Iran actively assisted the hijackers of planes that crashed into the World Trade Center towers, at the Pentagon and into a field in Pennsylvania. Former members of the 9/11 Commission and three Iranian defectors also spoke.

    NY judge: Iran, Taliban, al-Qaida liable for 9/11 - WSJ.com

    did the planes crashed into the Pentagon ?

     
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    I feel sorry for those 9/11 victims. Their loved ones' deaths are being politicized and used for a purpose that will never benefit them.

    And are those Iranian defectors anything like the Cuban defectors from the Bay of Pigs Invasion (i.e. on the CIA's payroll)?
     
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    Same goes for families of Bhopal victims.
     
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    Are you likening U.S. with Taliban/al-qaeda?
     
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    Thats a trick question ewald :p
     
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    The judge has an agenda :)

    Seriously Iran an Taliban?

    Find another excuse to attack. Don't make a fool of yourself. If at all there is any nation liable, it's US friend Sadi Arabia from where many hijackers came from.
     
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    I have had these questions about 9/11 and am going to post it on this forum for the first time.

    After the 1991 war, who were the business contacts of Ex- VP.Cheney in Saudi Arabia? Can one get access to his phone records and that of his close associates under the freedom of information act? Between 1991 and 2001 did VP Cheney pay personal visit to King Of Saudi Arabia, if so how many times and how one can get hold of minutes of meetings those took place? Can one get hold of complete detailed profile of those hijackers? Prior to their admission in the flying schools one has to piece together the day to day activities of these individuals. Can one obtain the details of intelligence reports on these individuals as compiled by Saudi and other international intelligence agencies? Was there any meeting between President Bush Jr. and King of Saudi Arabia before his election as President of USA? After the twin tower attack the details of each and every meetings that took place between President Bush Jr. and all the rulers of Middle East. Once we have all these documents in a chronological order only than we can say with conviction as to who is the master mind behind the mass murder of 9/11. One question keeps coming back in my thoughts as to why this happened immediately after President Bush Jr. win in the election? There were no Saudi nationals involved in hijacking prior to 9/11 and have not been involved since than? If we compare that with Palestinians it seems odd that citizens of a rich nation living a lavish lifestyle would come out of nowhere and act in a way that is still having its effect in the region showing no signs of coming to an end.

    I have my own hypothesis which points to-wards the only one party. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its intelligence wing. Were they encouraged by individuals with in the USA Government or outside the Government body(Possibily Yes) to send these inidividuals to be sent to Al-queda camps for training in terrorist activities. Why would they do this? It was done to give reasons to the world and win their confidence to launch an ultimate final attack on Iraq to remove Saddam from power. The latest upheavel has seen the demise of all those rulers who were one or the other time against the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia. Tunisia was exception. Rest of them Egypt, Libya, Syria, Palestinians and Iran are in the category who were or are opposed to SA kingdom.

    The latest events that are unfolding in Iraq after USA Army's with drawl could pit Iran against Saudi Arabia as an end game. In this scenario USA will encourage nations with Sunni majority to gang up against Iran whereas Iraq will most likely side with Iran and this could lead to all out sectarian violence in the region. USA and Israel will stand back and watch the history changing events. I am off topic but in a way it is all tied up to events of the past and what is happening now in the region. After the lessons of two times Iraq and Afghanistan war NATO will exercise "No Boots On The Ground" policy unless attacked directly by parties of the region.
     
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