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why should you?
do you think the Americans are gonna let you steal their show?
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No sign of help for Philippines from China's hospital ship
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do you think the Americans are gonna let you steal their show?
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Why So ?? Do you not see the Japanese ??
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Entire world is responding,we have the capability to respond in a mutch better way,but we didn't. It was no one's show.
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Madam, what made you think so ? Has there any indication in my posts ??
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That doesn't stop any other nation from making sizable contributions. Only Chini selfish attitude would make it a contest.
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I am not disappointed.
This Govt has messed up everything in foreign relations.
With them around, it is HAKUNA MATATA.
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In Humanitarian , there is no competition.
Charity begins at home, but should not end there.
Help to the distressed is not charity. Charity is the distress shared with the distressed, when you are just as distressed as the distressed being helped.
China with a hospital ship that is one of the most useful resources in a natural disaster like this stays on the sideline.
Its almost impossible to respect such a country.
Its a pathetic country and more importantly a nation of pathetic people who cant put aside a stupid territorial dispute where the Chinaman wants to control islands that are barely 100 miles from Philippines.
The Chinese have no belief in humanitarian values.
Everything is done for a specific reason ie. tactical reasons.
Its almost impossible to respect such a country.
Its a pathetic country and more importantly a nation of pathetic people who cant put aside a stupid territorial dispute where the Chinaman wants to control islands that are barely 100 miles from Philippines.
The Chinese have no belief in humanitarian values.
Everything is done for a specific reason ie. tactical reasons.
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China has factored out what it will gain by sending that hospital ship to Philippines v/s as a show of that ornamental piece at some far off African state ... I would say none"¦
China is a backward looking nation who has not recovered from the trauma and humiliation of war some 70 years back... Now people around the world have seen the true face of China... Shame on China!! If they have any"¦
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US military 'godsend' to 'Yolanda' victims
AP
November 17, 2013
Residents protect themselves from strong wind created by a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the US aircraft carrier USS George Washington as it takes off upon dropping relief supplies for villagers isolated by last week's super typhoon Yolanda Saturday Nov.16, 2013 on Manicani island, Eastern Samar. AP
ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON — As soon as Navy pilot Matthew Stafford puts his helicopter down in the village of Borongan, he is rushed by dozens of local men who form a line to unload the supplies he has flown in from the USS George Washington aircraft carrier.
On the Philippine islands of Leyte and Samar that were shattered by Typhoon Yolanda (international name Haiyan), there is no doubt about it: the US military has been a godsend.
"It is awesome to see this," says one grateful villager. "They are saving us."
Villagers stranded by last week's Typhoon Yolanda scramble for aid from a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the U.S. aircraft carrier USS George Washington in the coastal town of Tanawan, central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013.
But while US military support can be critical when disasters like Yolanda strike, staging massive humanitarian relief missions for allies in need isn't just about being a good neighbor. They can be a strategic and publicity goldmine for US troops whose presence in Asia isn't always portrayed in such a favorable light — and a powerful warning to countries that aren't on board.
This aerial photo shows the devastation caused by last week's typhoon which lashed Leyte province, near the coastal town of Tanawan, in central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013. AP
"These disasters are not unique only to the Philippines. It will send a signal to all of Southeast Asia, to Asia, that the US is serious about its presence here," said Philippine political analyst Ramon Casiple. "It's easy to translate this capability for disaster handling into handling warfare. This is the new orientation of the task forces."
From the military perspective, humanitarian missions like the ongoing Operation Damayan in the Philippines offer concrete benefits — the chance to operate in far-flung places, build military-to-military alliances and get realistic training — that they may later apply to their primary mission, which will always be fighting and winning wars.
"Crisis response planning is a skillset for the military, so when you have an opportunity to execute crisis response it's good for your planning team," said Rear Adm. Mark C. Montgomery, who commands the George Washington strike group, stationed offshore in the Gulf of Leyte. "So, sure, there is a benefit there. But in reality the reason we do this mission is because in the Navy's list of missions this is one of the significant efforts we plan for."
In the week since the disaster, the Philippines has started to receive support from military forces around the region. Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan have sent aircraft or personnel and more support is expected soon from Brunei, Great Britain, New Zealand and Thailand.
A crew member of a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the US aircraft carrier USS George Washington looks at the devastation caused by Typhoon Yolanda near the coastal town of Tanawan, central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013. AP
But none has come close to matching the US. Equally importantly, America's regional rival China has not sent any military personnel, and contributed relatively tiny financial aid.
"This is being done in a big way that highlights the meager response of China — that's the politics there. They're saying China is not actually your friend in the region," said Casiple
"I'm sure China is watching and assessing," he said. China announced Sunday it is ready to send rescue and medical teams to the Philippines, but did not say when the teams would depart.
For US allies like the Philippines, Vietnam, South Korea, Thailand and to some extent Indonesia, it is an affirmation of the US commitment. For others — Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar who are more closely aligned with China — he said the mission is a not-so-subtle message that the U.S remains the biggest power in the region.
Within hours of the typhoon, US Marines were on their way from their bases in Japan to assess the damage and plan out their response. Within days, the George Washington was pulling out of Hong Kong to lead its half-dozen ship battle group to the Gulf of Leyte. By the time they arrived, the US Air Force was already in action.
According to the Marines, US military aircraft have put in nearly 480 flight hours in 186 aircraft sorties, moved nearly 1,200 relief workers into the devastated city of Tacloban and have airlifted nearly 2,900 displaced people from the affected areas. On Saturday alone, they delivered more than 118 tons of food, water and shelter items to Tacloban, Borongan and Guiuan — some of the hardest-hit regions.
More than 600 US military personnel are currently ashore in the Philippines. The USS George Washington strike group adds another 6,200 sailors supporting air operations, and 1,000 Marines and sailors with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit are expected to arrive later this week.
"Getting to help people is actually the primary thing that we signed up to do," Toby Pickens, a Navy rescue diver, said after helping off-lift supplies during several hours of helicopter operations from the George Washington. "It's not so much the combat that we are looking for "¦ Compared to anything else we do, I would say that this is by far the tops."
US military public affairs offices, meanwhile, have been pushing out a torrent of photos, text updates, videos and media packages to play up that message of friendship and support.
Col. Miguel Okol, a spokesman for the Philippine Air Force, said that while he is grateful to the US assistance, he is also keenly aware that this is a military operation, with military implications.
He noted that by working together on humanitarian missions, US and Filipino soldiers are in effect conducting joint military exercises, such as while operating C-130 transport planes. The US has deployed 15 of them in the Philippines, which has three of its own.
"No country buys these kind of transports" purely for humanitarian purposes, he said as he watched two C-130 transport aircraft, one from each country, unload supplies at Villamor Air Base in Manila.
"Together, now, we are doing real operations," he said.
Read more: US military 'godsend' to 'Yolanda' victims | Inquirer Global Nation
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AP
November 17, 2013
Residents protect themselves from strong wind created by a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the US aircraft carrier USS George Washington as it takes off upon dropping relief supplies for villagers isolated by last week's super typhoon Yolanda Saturday Nov.16, 2013 on Manicani island, Eastern Samar. AP
ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON — As soon as Navy pilot Matthew Stafford puts his helicopter down in the village of Borongan, he is rushed by dozens of local men who form a line to unload the supplies he has flown in from the USS George Washington aircraft carrier.
On the Philippine islands of Leyte and Samar that were shattered by Typhoon Yolanda (international name Haiyan), there is no doubt about it: the US military has been a godsend.
"It is awesome to see this," says one grateful villager. "They are saving us."
Villagers stranded by last week's Typhoon Yolanda scramble for aid from a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the U.S. aircraft carrier USS George Washington in the coastal town of Tanawan, central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013.
But while US military support can be critical when disasters like Yolanda strike, staging massive humanitarian relief missions for allies in need isn't just about being a good neighbor. They can be a strategic and publicity goldmine for US troops whose presence in Asia isn't always portrayed in such a favorable light — and a powerful warning to countries that aren't on board.
This aerial photo shows the devastation caused by last week's typhoon which lashed Leyte province, near the coastal town of Tanawan, in central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013. AP
"These disasters are not unique only to the Philippines. It will send a signal to all of Southeast Asia, to Asia, that the US is serious about its presence here," said Philippine political analyst Ramon Casiple. "It's easy to translate this capability for disaster handling into handling warfare. This is the new orientation of the task forces."
From the military perspective, humanitarian missions like the ongoing Operation Damayan in the Philippines offer concrete benefits — the chance to operate in far-flung places, build military-to-military alliances and get realistic training — that they may later apply to their primary mission, which will always be fighting and winning wars.
"Crisis response planning is a skillset for the military, so when you have an opportunity to execute crisis response it's good for your planning team," said Rear Adm. Mark C. Montgomery, who commands the George Washington strike group, stationed offshore in the Gulf of Leyte. "So, sure, there is a benefit there. But in reality the reason we do this mission is because in the Navy's list of missions this is one of the significant efforts we plan for."
In the week since the disaster, the Philippines has started to receive support from military forces around the region. Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan have sent aircraft or personnel and more support is expected soon from Brunei, Great Britain, New Zealand and Thailand.
A crew member of a US Navy Sea Hawk helicopter from the US aircraft carrier USS George Washington looks at the devastation caused by Typhoon Yolanda near the coastal town of Tanawan, central Philippines Sunday, Nov. 17. 2013. AP
But none has come close to matching the US. Equally importantly, America's regional rival China has not sent any military personnel, and contributed relatively tiny financial aid.
"This is being done in a big way that highlights the meager response of China — that's the politics there. They're saying China is not actually your friend in the region," said Casiple
"I'm sure China is watching and assessing," he said. China announced Sunday it is ready to send rescue and medical teams to the Philippines, but did not say when the teams would depart.
For US allies like the Philippines, Vietnam, South Korea, Thailand and to some extent Indonesia, it is an affirmation of the US commitment. For others — Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar who are more closely aligned with China — he said the mission is a not-so-subtle message that the U.S remains the biggest power in the region.
Within hours of the typhoon, US Marines were on their way from their bases in Japan to assess the damage and plan out their response. Within days, the George Washington was pulling out of Hong Kong to lead its half-dozen ship battle group to the Gulf of Leyte. By the time they arrived, the US Air Force was already in action.
According to the Marines, US military aircraft have put in nearly 480 flight hours in 186 aircraft sorties, moved nearly 1,200 relief workers into the devastated city of Tacloban and have airlifted nearly 2,900 displaced people from the affected areas. On Saturday alone, they delivered more than 118 tons of food, water and shelter items to Tacloban, Borongan and Guiuan — some of the hardest-hit regions.
More than 600 US military personnel are currently ashore in the Philippines. The USS George Washington strike group adds another 6,200 sailors supporting air operations, and 1,000 Marines and sailors with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit are expected to arrive later this week.
"Getting to help people is actually the primary thing that we signed up to do," Toby Pickens, a Navy rescue diver, said after helping off-lift supplies during several hours of helicopter operations from the George Washington. "It's not so much the combat that we are looking for "¦ Compared to anything else we do, I would say that this is by far the tops."
US military public affairs offices, meanwhile, have been pushing out a torrent of photos, text updates, videos and media packages to play up that message of friendship and support.
Col. Miguel Okol, a spokesman for the Philippine Air Force, said that while he is grateful to the US assistance, he is also keenly aware that this is a military operation, with military implications.
He noted that by working together on humanitarian missions, US and Filipino soldiers are in effect conducting joint military exercises, such as while operating C-130 transport planes. The US has deployed 15 of them in the Philippines, which has three of its own.
"No country buys these kind of transports" purely for humanitarian purposes, he said as he watched two C-130 transport aircraft, one from each country, unload supplies at Villamor Air Base in Manila.
"Together, now, we are doing real operations," he said.
Read more: US military 'godsend' to 'Yolanda' victims | Inquirer Global Nation
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Philippines to get help from China
China is sending a state-of-the-art hospital ship to the Philippines following criticism that it was slow and stingy in its response to one of the world's biggest typhoons, which killed at least 4,000 people.
The Foreign Ministry in Beijing confirmed on Tuesday the deployment of the 14,000-tonne "Peace Ark" as state television reported the arrival of the first batch of Chinese relief supplies in the Philippines.
The Ark's exact area of operations and time of arrival have not been confirmed, but spokesman Hong Lei said it would set sail on Thursday.
"We hope that this action can alleviate the current situation in the Philippines, which is lacking doctors and medicine, and reflect the Chinese people's friendly feelings for the people of the Philippines," Hong said.
China's emergency medical rescue team of 51 people leaves on Wednesday, Hong said, adding that the Red Cross Society of China was sending two batches of international rescue teams, with a first group of 16 having already left and a second group of 14 set to leave on Friday.
"China has always been concerned about the Philippines typhoon disaster," Hong said in an earlier statement.
Disputed claims
Tension between China and the Philippines has risen in recent months over disputed claims in the South China Sea, with Manila taking Beijing to a United Nations court to challenge its historic claim to much of the strategic waterway.
China's usually hawkish Global Times, a tabloid owned by the government mouthpiece, the People's Daily, last week urged the deployment of the Ark amid criticism of Beijing's response by foreign commentators.
China, the world's second-largest economy, initially announced it was giving $200,000 and then bumped that up by $1.6 million. On Sunday, it said it was ready to send rescue and medical teams.
In contrast, the United States has mobilised about 50 ships and aircraft in the disaster zone, with helicopters delivering supplies from an aircraft carrier. It has announced more than $37 million in humanitarian aid.
Armed forces and aid agencies are struggling to get help to devastated areas in the Philippines, where the typhoon has left more than four million people homeless.
Flotilla of ships
The Ark will join an international flotilla of naval ships now delivering food, water and medicine to victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which tore across the central Philippines on Nov. 8, smashing just about everything in its path.
The ship, outfitted with 300 hospital beds, eight operating theatres and a medical staff of 100, recently returned to Shanghai after an unprecedented four-month deployment to Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean, where treated thousands of patients at several goodwill stops.
A Chinese cargo plane carrying tents and blankets landed in the central Philippine city of Cebu on Tuesday, broadcaster CCTV said.
"The Philippine Department of Social Welfare and Development head has said the Chinese relief goods are very useful," Chinese embassy official Wu Zhenping told the station.
"They will distribute some goods to evacuated victims in Cebu and the rest to victims in the worst-hit area, Tacloban."
Philippines to get help from China - World - CBC News
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It is good of China that finally it is sending her Hospital Ship to help the Filipinos.
However, it is bit late and so the effect is lost.
The comparison with the US is not really correct or fair to the Chinese.
The US has always been the first to help in any national or natural disaster and also donate generously.
China is still learning the ropes of humanitarian assistance as an effective arm of diplomacy.
China is sending a state-of-the-art hospital ship to the Philippines following criticism that it was slow and stingy in its response to one of the world's biggest typhoons, which killed at least 4,000 people.
The Foreign Ministry in Beijing confirmed on Tuesday the deployment of the 14,000-tonne "Peace Ark" as state television reported the arrival of the first batch of Chinese relief supplies in the Philippines.
The Ark's exact area of operations and time of arrival have not been confirmed, but spokesman Hong Lei said it would set sail on Thursday.
"We hope that this action can alleviate the current situation in the Philippines, which is lacking doctors and medicine, and reflect the Chinese people's friendly feelings for the people of the Philippines," Hong said.
China's emergency medical rescue team of 51 people leaves on Wednesday, Hong said, adding that the Red Cross Society of China was sending two batches of international rescue teams, with a first group of 16 having already left and a second group of 14 set to leave on Friday.
"China has always been concerned about the Philippines typhoon disaster," Hong said in an earlier statement.
Disputed claims
Tension between China and the Philippines has risen in recent months over disputed claims in the South China Sea, with Manila taking Beijing to a United Nations court to challenge its historic claim to much of the strategic waterway.
China's usually hawkish Global Times, a tabloid owned by the government mouthpiece, the People's Daily, last week urged the deployment of the Ark amid criticism of Beijing's response by foreign commentators.
China, the world's second-largest economy, initially announced it was giving $200,000 and then bumped that up by $1.6 million. On Sunday, it said it was ready to send rescue and medical teams.
In contrast, the United States has mobilised about 50 ships and aircraft in the disaster zone, with helicopters delivering supplies from an aircraft carrier. It has announced more than $37 million in humanitarian aid.
Armed forces and aid agencies are struggling to get help to devastated areas in the Philippines, where the typhoon has left more than four million people homeless.
Flotilla of ships
The Ark will join an international flotilla of naval ships now delivering food, water and medicine to victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which tore across the central Philippines on Nov. 8, smashing just about everything in its path.
The ship, outfitted with 300 hospital beds, eight operating theatres and a medical staff of 100, recently returned to Shanghai after an unprecedented four-month deployment to Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean, where treated thousands of patients at several goodwill stops.
A Chinese cargo plane carrying tents and blankets landed in the central Philippine city of Cebu on Tuesday, broadcaster CCTV said.
"The Philippine Department of Social Welfare and Development head has said the Chinese relief goods are very useful," Chinese embassy official Wu Zhenping told the station.
"They will distribute some goods to evacuated victims in Cebu and the rest to victims in the worst-hit area, Tacloban."
Philippines to get help from China - World - CBC News
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It is good of China that finally it is sending her Hospital Ship to help the Filipinos.
However, it is bit late and so the effect is lost.
The comparison with the US is not really correct or fair to the Chinese.
The US has always been the first to help in any national or natural disaster and also donate generously.
China is still learning the ropes of humanitarian assistance as an effective arm of diplomacy.
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No, I am just a soldier with a retiring disposition,bordering on an avuncular streak.
That is why I can take so much of drivel thrown at me and get beguiled!
And now to your main point - How does it got Burkina Faso invloved?
It requires acuity to cognize the indistinguishable.
Is 'criticism' the marker for recriminatory reciprocation?
In this event, it appear you are being blind as a bat.
Philippines has not criticised China.
The world has!
So, go take it out on the world, since vindictive reciprocation seems to be your elemental morality compass and vector!
May I add, the Philippines has not given any aid to the US nor most nations to whose support the US has rushed aid during national distress.
But that has, in no way, deterred the US from not giving aid.
It is called "Compassion".
The Dalai Lama said - Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive.
The quality of mercy is not strained; It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest; It blesseth him that gives and him that takes: 'T is mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes The throned monarch better than his crown: His sceptre shows the force of temporal power, The attribute to awe and majesty, Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings; But mercy is above this sceptred sway; It is enthronèd in the hearts of kings, It is an attribute to God himself; -
The Merchant of Venice, Act IV, Scene I
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/21707#sthash.P6cg6fNL.dpuf
I am deeply anguished to realise that most of those living with the Hwang Ho and Yangtse Kiang as their civilisational root, are not too conversant with the philosophical goodness of 'compassion', nor indicate any inclination to embrace it with good grace that is celebrated and embraced by humans in the remainder parts of the Good Earth!
Always remember "Dreams create my path. Fear fuels my drive. Love sustains my direction." -
Lastly, if you want to be like another American in all respects, then act like America and not like l'avares, Uncle Scrooges or Ebenezer Scrooges!
In the event that you did not know (which I am sure you will say you know), Scrooge was a cold-hearted, tight-fisted and greedy man, who had only disgust for the poor, thinking the world would be better off without them, "decreasing the surplus population," and praise for the Victorian-era workhouses.
I am sure you know what is l'avare and Uncle Scrooge!
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Philipines gave $450k for the Sichuan quake.
Your GDP is 30X greater than Philippines, their aid to you is the equivalent of China giving $1.35b. Let us not talk about even. Your government is run by a bunch of dicks.
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How much does Linxia Hui Autonomous Prefecture, Gansu province contribute to China's economic Juggernaut?
Gansu and Guizhou are the poorest provinces of China.
Should China's central assistance be on reciprocation?
This (the snippet below from China Daily) does not show that the Central Govt of China is in anyway acting on reciprocation. In fact, it is giving money to uplift even though they are the poorest and are not contributing much to the Chinese Economic Dream.
Jago, Mohan pyare! (that is French.)
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