No shortage of artillery guns: Antony

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  1. Galaxy

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    No shortage of artillery guns: Antony

    New Delhi, Nov 28 (IANS) Defence Minister A.K. Antony Monday informed the Lok Sabha that the Indian Army has adequate arms and equipment, including artillery gun systems and that the government was giving priority to equipping the artillery units with modern weapon systems.

    Antony’s statement, in a written reply to questions from MPS, comes in the backdrop of the army having failed to procure even a single new artillery system since it procured the 410 Bofors 155mm guns in 1987 and the subsequent 1,000-gun order from the then Swedish firm AB Bofors was also stalled due to allegations of kick-backs in the deal that hit the then Rajiv Gandhi government.

    ‘Arms and equipment including gun systems in the Indian artillery are available in adequate quantity. Modernisation of artillery, which entails replacement of the equipment of older technology, is an on-going process and is being given priority to ensure that the artillery remains equipped with modern weapons systems,’ he said.

    Antony also noted that there was ‘no significant problems’ in the existing gun systems. ‘However, the shortages of certain types/components of ammunition as and when reported, have been addressed adequately,’ he added.

    The defence minister said India had obtained the technologies for the Bofors guns transferred to the ordnance factories.

    ‘Though further dealing with AB Bofors was suspended, the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) has been manufacturing the major components of the gun, such as barrel, breach mechanism, muzzle break, loading trough, recoil system along with the elevating and traversing cylinders, and supplying to the army as spares,’ he said.

    Noting that OFB has indigenised the ammunition required for the Bofors guns, Antony said it has been supplying them to the army on a regular basis.

    Antony said the government had prepared a long-term action plan for upgrading and modernising the artillery, which is underway to cater to the requirements projects by the army.

    ‘In terms of this plan, several major weapon systems are in the process of being procured,’ he said, refusing to divulge more details in national interest.

    India is in the process of procuring four types of artillery guns. The Indian Army’s artillery needs 1,580 155mm 53calibre towed guns, 180 155mm 52calibre wheeled and self-propelled guns, 145 155mm 39calibre ultralight howitzers and another 100 155mm 52calibre tracked guns.

    Some of them are caught up in red tape due to complaints of procurement procedural lapses by rival defence firms, still others are in limbo due to black-listing of the foreign companies that want to sell these weapons system to India.

    No shortage of artillery guns: Antony News
     
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  3. Ray

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    That's news!

    If so, why are we trying to buy 155s?

    To modernise?

    Operation readiness means meeting the Threat Perception with compatible weaponry.

    If numbers alone were what makes an Army op fit, then I am sure we have many 105s in the cold storage to prove that we have more arty pieces than necessary!! :eek:
     
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    some body called artillery?

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    A-222 BEREG 130-mm[​IMG]

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    The man should try retaking the last peak in Kargil with the artillery we have right now.
     
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    Antony making false statement in the floor of house is not good idea, we all know the position of artillery guns in India.

    First step towards solving problem is to admit it that we have a problem.
     
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    First step to become a successful politician is to Lie.
     
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    Right on point, Sir..
     
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    [FONT=helvetica, arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]At the moment, IA need 1,580 155mm caliber towed guns, though if not 1,580 but at least 760 mixed pieces of M46 and FH-77 will be updated with Successful OFB 155mm/45cal Kit.. [/FONT]

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    The rest will come after successful trails of OFB gun..
     
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    i knew this... he is smoking weed
     
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    What do you guys think about to the trials due to start in May 2012 for the Towed Gun?
    The French and the Israeli's are due to start the fire trials for the only ongoing project - 400 units of 155mm 52 calibre Towed Autonomous gun . Maybe soon we're going to see a new gun in India's arsenal!
     
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    when ever OFB makes that 155/39 or 45 mm gun, we should put it on Arjun tank chasis.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    If possible into bhim, Or a new one..
     
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    One gud thing these guys can do is to give these guns to those newly raised Units over N.E as their are no new guns for them..

    105 is excellent over mountains..
     
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    Army want bigger Guns..

    If DRDO/OFB/ARDE guys can put their 155mm/45cal on a T-72 chassis or Arjun..

    Army will be intersested..
     
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    I'm not so sure about T-72 as a proper chassis but Arjun seems big enough for that. I have serious gripe against MoD and army due to their apparent stupidty when it comes to defence acquisitions.
    The way things have turned out till now, I'd surprised if they'll be able to buy anything ever. Involving with DRDO etc for local development and production of weapons is a futile hope
    They bungled up with tanks, been screwing around for decades with artillery and now assault rifles too.

    Don't you think that this BMP based gun will be useful in NE or some place else?
     
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    Actually that was a OFB project, anyways the 105mm IFG does not pack a big enough punch and neither does it have the range required to be a front line weapon for a desert strike corps, what i got was that it was developed keeping ladakh in mind specifically, note that we already operate BMP's there and any sort of SPG in those mountains is an asset.
     
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    Sure it isnt as good as having 155mm. My post was in response to Kunal's where he mentioned use of 105mm in mountains. It's at least better than having nothing at all
     
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    we already have the tech to build the gun the problem is turning that gun into an integrated weapons package with the sensor suite and hydraulic servos not to mention the ballistic computers , then packing the whole package ito a compact enough turret so that it can be mated to a ARJUN/T-72 hull.
     
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