No army for CI

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  1. Brood Father

    Brood Father Regular Member

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    Why do army has to die for the idiotic CI operation, Why we cannot use artillery to bring down the building and For God sake they are elite commando and they are dying ..

    Sorry words are harsh and so is truth , we cannot always sit behind excuses , if we don't come up with the solution , then IA has lot to answer..
     
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    aditya g Regular Member

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    I think you were drunk when you posted as none of it makes any sense.

    Do you have some statistics to back this up?
     
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    Screambowl Senior Member Senior Member

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    Well I do agree to some point that past 3 months we have lost many officers from elite forces. This should not be the actual ratio. This is sad.

    I am sure, the army is changing its policy right now , So, that our boys are not restricted to take offensive mode in such situations. Because, we know even in defensive posture, our boys lead the op.
     
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    AnantS Senior Member Senior Member

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    Did it ever occur to you terrorists occupied a residential educational institute. And their priority would have been to empty the building from civilians before any retaliation from their side? That the terrorists tried to thwart the same by holding positions where they had clear view? Did it occur to you they might have had to clear floor by floor to find out any students trapped? India has high officer causality because they are asked to lead from front!
     
  6. Brood Father

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    Why are you taking wrong way ...my observation is simple and that is we are losing a lot of good men in idiotic CI operation ....Does pawan Kumar and another officer meant to die like this ?...No right ....
    Yes they did occupy a building , so what ??
    There were no civilians in it , why was it not demolished , or if you don't want to have materlistic loss , their is always option of chemical and biological weapons

    My simple point revolves around the life of our soldiers ...
     
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  7. Brood Father

    Brood Father Regular Member

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    Today 3 paratroopers dies ...on pathankot one NSG and one garud commando died
    Not sure what else stars you want to hear
    Or is it the obvious you are scared to listen ...
     
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    AnantS Senior Member Senior Member

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    Nope there were civilians(students) in there. They really could not fire blindly into building or blow it up. These brave lads gave up their lives for saving students. The infiltrators were having vantage point from top of buildings and efforts to breach building initially suffered setback. As some buzz going on in twitter, this has paki kammandoo gandoo signature. I am not sure, how successful use of aerosol anesthetic in hostage situations would be, considering huge collateral damage during Moscow theater siege. Also building it seems was airy with lot of windows, any gas would have escaped soon
     
  9. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

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    http://swarajyamag.com/politics/thi...ts-and-hostile-kashmiris#.VsxFovS6Azw.twitter

    As Indian security forces fought terrorists in Pampore and lost two young captains over the weekend, mosques in Frestabal, Drangbal, Kadlabal and Sempora areas played recordings which eulogised the terrorists.

    According to news reports from the ground, hundreds of youth had tried to physically prevent the security forces from launching a combat operation against the terrorists. The crowd assembled across the rivulet at the site of the encounter in the Entrepreneurship Development Institute (EDI) building and repeatedly clashed with the security forces.

    Meanwhile, pro-Pakistan (jivey, jivey Pakistan) and pro-Azadi (hum kya chahtey: azadi) slogans blared from the mosques. However, the police could not enter the mosques to stop this provocation.

    A group of youths pelted cops with stones in a locality near Sempora. This place is within a hailing distance of Jammu and Kashmir’s capital, Srinagar.

    The entire Pulwama district, including the separatist hotbed of Tral, observed a complete shutdown on Monday in ‘solidarity’ with the holed-up terrorists, stated posters put up by the separatists.

    The security forces mounted an assault on the building on Sunday and met with stiff resistance from the terrorists inside the building.

    Two officers of the rank of Captain and Lance Naik of the elite Para Force of the Army were killed while trying to flush out the militants. While Captain Pawan Kumar was killed in a pre-dawn exchange of fire, Captain Tushar Mahajan and Lance Naik Om Prakash sustained fatal injuries on Sunday afternoon.

    The 48-hour fierce gun battle on the outskirts of Srinagar ended on Monday evening after the security forces managed to neutralize the three “foreign terrorists”. The EDI building is situated along the Srinagar-Jammu National Highway.

    There was a large number of civilians in the EDI building when the terrorists went inside. The focus of the security forces was to evacuate all civilians to safety. They used bullet-proof vehicles to evacuate 120 civilians from the building.


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    Looking at these provocations, I seriously think army should just go for blasting these building to rubble. These Kashmiris need no sympathy and need to be dealt with iron fist.
     
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    "Terrorism" was never curtailed by violent reaction. It is "Freedom Struggle" to the guy at the other end. This requires cool thought. Requires intellectual input. The terrorist / freedom fighter must be engaged in dialogue to understand his views - and then address these.
     
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    It requires iron fist. Kill the ring leaders.

    Make them pay with blood.
     
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  12. Brood Father

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    Freedom struggle say you .....freedom struggle don't need violence , it can also be done by political and diplomatic means

    This freedom struggle started by systematic anhilation of Kashmiri pandits by the radical mullah and Muslim
    But I am sure you will conveniently ignore it from your watch list , becuase a person only sees what he want to see
     
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    SREEKAR Senior Member Senior Member

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    Why don't we shoot every seperatist?
    What if we follow Israel model with kashmir (brute force)
    Support union of india otherwise leave india or we will kick u.
    any consequences? even china doesn't care about UNHR
     
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    They will blame BJP, and then it will become political shit-

    POK is our territory, LOC is just defacto line not permanent. Beyond Pt NJ9842, there is NO LOC. India can infiltrate from there and it will be legitimate to do and strike their bases.
     
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    Negotiating with a terrorist?:nono:Awwww!!! Look at what happened to pakistan.

    The terrorist is NOT a freedom fighter. Any citizen of any nation should not take things into his own hands and lure his or her Govt to WAR through use of terrorism as a coercive measure against another nation.
    If its a freedom struggle..there are methods in civilized world to address such...The nations can use existing international mechanism to address these...If pakistan is using terrorism as a tool it shows paki politicians are just boobs like their army.

    Terrorists cannot be allowed to run parallel Govt with existing democratic framework.May be its a norm in pakistan...but its not gonna work with sovereign nations having nukes like India.

    Terrorists needed to be engaged with bullets and let the bullets do the negotiation to rebut his views on another nation.
     
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    just see the intro of this video...and notice the intensity of fire.

    this is just minimum fire power with light weapons... Where as at LOC, it is 10 times more and in war like Kargil, there is no limit.

     
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    jUST FEW DEADLY ROUNDS AT THAT CROWDS SHOUTING FOR AZADI.............MotherF**kerz Why do we show such tollerace towards these retards?
    Kick those separatist
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Army should only use when their are no alternatives, CRPF must be used for all internal issues not even BSF should get involve, CRPF has its cobras and they must expand it and other gears they need should be provided including training from Army ..

    If CRPF need its gunships and Armour, It must be provided ..
     
  19. Brood Father

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    Exactly my point sir , even army don't want to do it
    We must train CRPF ,atleast start now so that in 10 years or so we can fully rely on CRPF ..
     
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    excluding Kashmir, because that will be like abolishing AFSPA in Kashmir.
     
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