Nityananda out after 52 days behind bars

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    Why are people in India this stupid? Even after watching his sleazy video, they worship this guy? What has he ever done for them? Why don't Indian people have common sense? What the heck is wrong with them!
     
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    tell me one thing what has he done in that sleeze vidoe , he was clearly not forcing the girl to act the way she was doing ? as far as " sexual act " is concerned it did not show any of it , more over no evidence was found against him anywhere. Have you even attended his gatherings , well I have and he is amazing,also remember the driver who says that he did all the above had no evidence whatsoever.( his services to the country http://picasaweb.google.com/NGCI2010) and nobady worships him ,they only listen to what he says , btw he has following in over 20 countries ,if he was a fake then starting followers in 20 countries wont be possible . This is the perfect example of the biased media, have you seen enough clippings of the sexualy abusive christian priests in India , when a nun from a catholic church wrote a book on the sins commited in the church by the priests .
     
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    Lenin retracts his statement about Nithyananda
    By Supporters of Nithyananda
    For all the allegations and rumors and sensationalism that was generated about Paramahamsa Nithyananda having alleged sexual relations with ‘many’ women – the number ranging from 2, 16, 20, 31, 51…the source of all this, the so-called whistle-blower, Lenin Karuppan aka Dharmananda, says the following (quoted in Deccan Herald, April 3 2010):

    “But a day after claiming he possessed two other CDs containing explicit footage of Nithyananda's sexual activities, Karuppan insisted there was only one video which was now in the possession of the Karnataka Criminal Investigation Department (CID). In an email statement to Deccan Herald, Karuppan claimed he was misquoted on account of a "language communication" gap.”

    Till today, it was only based on hearsay, alleged conversations, media conjectures, etc. But now that the real investigation has started by the legal authorities, the fear seems to have caught on with the perpetrators of these false news.

    What will be the next allegations that were ‘shocking news’ then and suddenly become ‘misquotes’ now? Let us wait and watch
    http://standup-for-nithyananda.blogspot.com/2010/04/lenin-retracts-his-statement-about.html
     
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    Nithyananda Scandal: Media Coverage and their Mis-representations
    By Supporters of Nithyananda
    1) Interesting to note how Times of India tone completely changed after we gave them an exclusive interview.

    2) The names of persons and corresponding pictures were found faulty on several occasions in Tamil Media. However English media refrained from this.

    3) Severe mis-presentation of Swamiji’s quotes where some channels used his words and twisted them to make juicy headlines

    Times Now got an exclusive interview and misquoted Swamiji as saying:

    - “ Yes, its me in the video”
    - “ I was in a trance”
    This ran whole day on channels and website on 14th March.
    However, Swamiji did not say these anywhere in his interview.

    4) IBN –CNN and several other channels used his interview with Rajiv Malhotra and grossly violated all ethics by severe mis representation of his statements.
    IBN-CNN ran the headline on March 15th – “ I was experimenting in Bed” – tainted Swami;s Excuse.”



    5) On the night of 14th when several media channels entered into Swamiji’s hotel and tried to get a statement out of him.
    Aaj Tak and NDTV channels reported several erroneous facts without checking with anyone.
    They reported that
    “Swamiji was staying in room 104 checked in as S K Tiwari and has been using a fake name and ID”.
    They did not check that one of our senior swami who was accompanying Swamiji had booked the room in his name.





    From the night of March 2nd, 2010 we have witnessed how a well entrenched media group can misguide the people, inflame the passions of ordinary people and completely tarnish the image of a Spiritual Leader who's works have inspired millions around the world. Paramahamsa Nithyananda, over the last 5 years, was probably single handedly responsible for reviving spiritual interest amongst all age groups across the world, through his tireless work and inspiring talk. He even has around 700 free discourses on YouTube elaborating on almost every aspect of spirituality with such authenticity and has around 200 books published.

    The TV channel that broadcast the videos have clearly violated all aspects of public decency just by showing such a video and yet no action has been initiated against them by any one. The whole episode was planned and timed to perfection. On 1st March 2010, Paramahamsa Nithyananda left for the Kumbha Mela. This was a schedule fixed months earlier. The perpetrators of this incident were well aware of this and showed the video on 2nd March 2010 at night, thus ensuring that Paramahamsa Nithyananda will not even be available for any comment.

    The news videos were repeated continuously non-stop as though there was a national emergency. The intention of the video was purely to defame Paramahamsa Nithyananda and to orchestrate a public campaign against him. Within one hour of the video being shown, his ashrams in few places were simultaneously attacked. The news cast was repeated with the same intensity, now with the news mentioning, as though to justify, the public anger. The videos actually showed not more than 10 people in about 5 places, indulging in anti-social behavior by damaging the legitimate property of the ashrams. Yet the news conveyed the impression that the whole of Tamilnadu was actively agitating against Paramahamsa Nithyananda.

    The following day the same news item was circulated with the same intensity, again as though a national emergency or calamity had occurred. Through out this episode, not even a single news of the other side was shown. No person from the ashram was even asked for an opinion. However, a single goonda like person was shown manhandling an ashramite from the Tiruvanamalai ashram repeatedly. The newsmen who captured this item were not even bothered to record a single word from this ashramite but even took statements from this goonda and others like him.

    It was clear that they were trying hard to CREATE public anger.

    The usual anti-social elements were being let loose to have a free run at any visible sign of Paramahamsa Nithyananda's ashram related activity areas. After having achieved the first objective of discrediting Paramahamsa Nithyananda's public persona, it was now time to start the 2nd phase of the malicious campaign.

    Totally unsubstantiated new allegations of land grabbing, rape, sandalwood hoarding, unlawful confinement of ashramites were now being shown continuously. They had a free run in inciting and whipping up further public emotions. Now, other TV channels were keen on getting a slice of this pie.

    An event was successfully created out of nothing significant and now there was also scope for good revenue to be made from it.

    On 4th, the ashram put out a video on youtube and a message on their website stating "At this moment, we feel that a mix of conspiracy, graphics and rumor are at play in these recent events that have unfolded. We are working on a legal course of action and will come up with updates in due course" None of these TV channels bothered with this.

    It was more sensational to hurl accusations, create confusion and spread more rumors. News was literally being made. Maximum mileage and revenue was being made sensationalizing every bit of unsubstantiated, unverified news item.

    On 6th March, Paramahamsa Nithyananda had to make a videophone recording explaining that nothing illegal was done either by him or his organization. Sun TV which found it appropriate to air a 8+ minutes of sleaze footage for 2 days could not find time to broadcast the 2:30mins of Swamiji's statement even once. Repeated videos put out by the ashram, even of a 45mins press conference were conveniently ignored or merited only casual passing coverage.

    The created news had to die its natural death by people getting tired (and disgusted) of it but not before inflicting maximum damage as intended by its perpetrators.

    A regular massage video was manipulated to misrepresent a spiritual leader and completely malign his name and shamelessly shown on a public news channel with the sole intention of 'character assassination' and maximum revenue was also generated in all forms of media owned by this group. An assortment of charges were made, hurled and circulated, public chaos was created, and in the end nothing was substantiated. It was left to (like Swamiji said) the victim to remain guilty until proven innocent.

    Even interviews with Swamiji that have been recorded and put on YouTube (thankfully) have been miscast and mis-captioned.

    This is unfortunately the media that we watch daily and actually pay for watching. This can be carried out, at will, against any Hindu spiritual leader or organization but will never be attempted against any other religion or religious organization in India.
    http://standup-for-nithyananda.blogspot.com/2010/03/nithyananda-scandal-media-coverage-and.html
     
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    Here's the video of nityanada clearly showing him in a compromising position.



    And ofcourse, he was not forcing her, otherwise it would an act of rape. But he is clearly not following the austerity code of a spiritual person. Otherwise, why would he be considered swami?

    The video was proved as not doctored by CID.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nityanandas-video-footage-is-genuine-says-CID/articleshow/6033931.cms He is a fake. And, this is not an attack on any religion in particular. Priests in western countries molest young boys and girls too. So, why do people keep listening to these idiots when the same people in charge cannot follow the moral code they set forward for others to follow!
     
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    LET'S SEE WHAT SOME OF NEUTRAL MEDIAPEOPLE SAY ABOUT THE ISSUE....
    By Supporters of Nithyananda
    " HT Home / Blogs Home > Cutting The Edge / religion / Sex, gurus and
    conscience keepers"

    “I have decided to live a life of spiritual seclusion,” Swami
    Paramahamsa Nithyananda said in a March 31 video statement, in
    response to his being caught with his dhoti up in a video relayed all
    over the world on Youtube. “A board of trustees consisting from
    sadhakas of the Dhyanapeetam who are non-controversial, will
    henceforth manage the Dhyanapeetam.”

    While I have absolutely no clue on what the expression “spiritual
    seclusion” means — is there anything anywhere that’s not spiritual? —
    that is not the issue here.

    What I find amusing is the way Nithyananda’s sexuality is being
    perceived. In the space of one month, the video (which violates his
    privacy, I must add) has turned many of his followers against him. Not
    very different from the way fans and followers have left former Andhra
    Pradesh Governor N.D. Tiwari following his “bedroom stories” and golf
    star Tiger Woods’ affairs.

    Nithyananda’s crime: to have engaged in consensual sex. Last I read
    the law, that didn’t amount to breaking any.

    There could be more than a sexual transgression here. On April 1,
    Douglas McKellor filed a case against Nithyananda in the US, for
    fraud, cheating disciples and duping them (exactly how is unclear). If
    those are the allegations, Nithyananda needs to be tried. Sexual
    crimes are rampant across the world. Pope Benedict XVI is dragging his
    feet on the worst possible sexual crime — organised child abuse by
    paedophile-preachers — currently under the societal scanner, in
    Ireland and Germany.

    But if Nithyananda is “fond of pretty girls“, as McKellor further
    alleged, I don’t know a single court anywhere across the would that
    would admit the case. That allegation would also put him somewhere
    closer to Father Alberto Cutié’s amorous romp with an “attractive
    woman”. Both Cutie’s and Nithyananda’s fault has been a breach of
    celibacy that society seeks from them.

    India, however, is a country that worships the greatest yogi of them
    all. A yogi who is the inspiration behind arguably the world’s
    greatest scripture, the Bhagwad Gita. A god born in a man’s body, an
    avatar who lived like a man. Legend says he had 16,108 wives,
    including Rukmini, Satyabhama and Jambavati. He also fathered children
    — all of 80 according to one estimate.

    As most Indians would know, I am referring to Sri Krishna.

    And though Krishna was not a guru in the traditional sense of the word
    but a ruler and a warrior, gurus having sex, too, is not a sin in
    India. Else, Krishna’s guru Sandipani wouldn’t have had sons who
    Krishna rescued from Prabhasa. Nor would Vasistha, the guru of
    Krishna’s preceding avatar Sri Ram, have married Arundhati and had
    children.

    Then there is the issue of out-of-marriage relationships.
    Unfortunately for the self-styled conscience keepers of our society,
    these too have been accepted — Ram’s other guru, Vishwamitra had a
    daughter Shakuntala from a relationship with Menaka, an apsara in the
    Gods’ court. They did not marry. Ram’s father Dasharatha had three
    wives and according to Valimiki’s Ramayana, more than 350 concubines.

    In the Mahabharata, Vidura, the most respected of all Kauravas, was
    the son of a maid, born out-of-wedlock but accorded the status of a
    minister to his half-brother Dritarashtra.

    So, sex per se, is an accepted Indian norm. Out-of-wedlock sex is an
    acceptable norm too. And even gurus and gods having sex is ok. (The
    burden, if any, has fallen on women — Kunti, for instance, for having
    borne the misguided hero Karna in a pre-marital relationship with the
    Sun god.)

    What, then, is the Nithyananda furore all about? Cutting the Edge is
    not interested in his criminal activities at all. If he has broken any
    law (cheating, for instance, to get sexual favours), the law and a
    jail term await him. But if all he’s done is had consensual sex with a
    woman (or many women, as is alleged), then the issue becomes one of
    morality. As a public person, Nithyananda should have known better, I
    suppose.

    Irrespective, this moral expectation has no place whatsoever in the
    pursuit of god. A moral man is not necessarily a spiritually awakened
    soul. And the reason is simply because morality is a function of
    society and man’s laws, while the laws of spirituality are beyond any
    man-made grid.

    While being disillusioned with him, Nithyananda’s followers need to
    distinguish between the two. If as his disciple you are uncomfortable
    with his sexuality, cease following him and find another guru. A
    reminder, though: your ultimate guru resides within you and an
    external guru can, at best, be a medium to get there.

    Don’t allow self-styled conscience keepers to divert your attention
    from the seat of your inner quest — the reason why you go to gurus.
    Understand that the Nithyananda controversy is mere titillation. Join
    in, engage and enjoy that distraction in kitty parties and morning
    walks, if you wish.

    But remember, the key to spiritual growth — if that is indeed what you
    came to Nityananda in the first place — lies within
     
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    why says swami cannot be involved in sexual act , its his choice not the public , remember the greatest book on sexual relations was wrtten Hindu swami ( yogi )
     
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    As far as image comparison is concerned, that is still to be done," CID's Deputy IGP Charan Reddy said.
     
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    LOL, point me to any hindu scripture that says one can have sexual relations outside marriage. This guy can have relations outside marriage if he wants, but then he cannot run an ashram and preach hinduism.
     
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    Who the hell is talking about the image. The video is genuine. That's all that's required to prove he is a phony
     
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    why says that ? its his choice , he preaches hinduism in the right , no where in hindu scriptures has said that swami cannot indulge in sexual relationship.
     
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    phony in what way , if he is indeed phony can he have followers in 20 countries or more ?
     
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    What is a Swami?

    Often people ask questions like, "What is a swami?" or "Why did you become a swami?" In areas such as Rishikesh or Haridwar, India, along the Ganges, it is not a question that needs to arise. Many swamis are there, and all you have to do is say, "Behold, those are swamis!" However, in geographical areas where there are few swamis wandering around, these are more curious questions.

    The word swami means master; it means striving for the mastery over one's smaller self and habit patterns, so that the eternal Self within may come shining through. The act of becoming a swami is not so much an acting of becoming, of adding on, of allegiance, as it is an act of setting aside, of renunciation. A swami is a monk, one who has set aside all of the limited, worldly pursuits, so as to devote full time effort to the direct experience of the highest spiritual realization, and to the service of others along those lines. Renunciation is not anti-world, in any sense of the world being a bad place. Rather, it is a matter of priorities about how one will spend his or her time, the twenty-four hours in a day, and the seven days in a week. Traditionally renunciation is the fourth of four stages of life, although one who feels the call might renounce and become a swami at any stage of life.

    http://www.swamij.com/what-is-a-swami.htm
     
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    A Devotee to other fellow devotees………….
    We have all seen Swamiji and have our personal experience with him. We might have been around him for a few days or several years but something definitely touched us. That’s the reason why we are even interested to follow any news on him.

    Rather than basing our opinions on what others say, shouldn’t we use our personal experience and inner voice to tell us what to do?

    We might ask, as a devotee or disciple what should I do now?

    There are three things we can do:
    First, stand on the strength of our experience with the Master and the great truths.
    Second, even if we want to leave, there is no need to justify the action to others.
    Third, if we don’t want to be part of Sangha, it’s ok but no need to spread rumors. This is the very minimum we owe to any individual we associate with.
    We should also understand that society never accepts Masters when they are in the body. Attacks have happened against all the masters including Ramana Maharishi, Ramakrishna, Osho, Krishnamurti and others. We just need to turn a few pages of history and see.

    Further, What would you say about such a blatant attack on someone’s personal life?? Even if we assume what media shows is correct, the ghastly manner in which media has done this, attacking an individual’s personal life with such malicious fervor and disrespect should be condemned. They have broken every rule and went against the very core ethics and principals on which media or the ‘Fourth Estate’ functions.

    This is also a wonderful opportunity and great time to test our experience and strength of transformation against the societal conditioning. Let us see where we stand in reality. It’s easy to be with someone in good times but the real test is when the tide is against you. Only the real gems can stand tall and face rough weather with same calmness and conviction.

    From history, we see that people who are around the master for name and fame and power are the ones who leave first and then completely go against him with vengeance and jealousy. We can see this is exactly what is happening here too. Some so-called ‘close devotees’ might be acting in this manner but we should be intelligent to see the reason behind and not get influenced.

    Masters don’t have either good or bad karma. But because of all the healing and good they do they accumulate a lot of good karma and also take away bad karma from people. This is like a bank balance, which simply gets transferred to people who do, either good or bad. The results they get are manifold and immediate.

    We have heard Swamiji say this many times. Though, he never curses but all the karmas are dispersed in a natural way by existence. Even the media and all the negative campaigners agree on one thing that he has real siddhis and powers. People who have tried to do harm have suffered within 21 days without him cursing or wishing them bad. This is a fact attested to by hundreds of people, friends and foes alike

    If we just look closely, we will have no choice but to respect the amazing dignity and grace, which he has maintained throughout the incident and media interactions. This in itself is a sign of truth and honesty if nothing else. Let us be patient and be prudent. Let us not jump to conclusions. Rumors by their very nature are juicy and talking about them spread like fire and have little base. Let’s use our intelligence and judgment to see the entire thing in a neutral light.
     
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    Nithyanandam, I am enclosing the views of a top Advocate who has been campaigning against the atrocities of media and expressed boldly His valuable opinions on Swamij's case on all occations:
    This flamboyant Advocate has put up his views on the current Bail out conditions in the case of Swamiji.I strongly feel this information and views must reach all devotees and a comprehensive collective opinions of the devotees must reach the judiciary to bring about needed amendments by the Govt body.

    Kv Dhananjay : Am I the only one perplexed at this condition on which bail has been granted by Hon'ble High Court of Karnataka for Swami Nityananda - 'no preaching'? Since when did a Court of law acquire a judicial power to enforce merit in religious or spiritual matters? I am amused first and truly amazed next - all, with due respects to the Court.
    Kv Dhananjay Well, a judicial Order should always be respected, whether it be good or bad. Aggrieved devotees may apply to the High Court seeking 'removal of preaching bar'. Certainly, the HC cannot then say that it knows what's best for devotees; more than what devotees themselves think is best for them. Simple.
    Some comments by fellow devotees to above statements:
    Shawn Bhibekshan Chowdhry
    what bothers me is not the decision but why is the supreme court overlooking these sorts of biases and decisions taken under coerce from political parties and groups who are very much against the swamis who are championing the cause of vedas and holding the vedic tradition high. The tragedy is the Indian media which is supposed to be independent ... See Moreand must have high standards have become the mouth piece of these groups who are hell bent upon destroying the vedic traditions. Swami Nithyananda is one such leader who has shown at a very young that he has the intellect and knowledge to teach vedic sciences, has the guts and dare to take on all those anti-vedic tradition groups and has the vision and leadership to change the dynamics in not only India but Worldwide and bring a spiritual revolution across all faiths and nations. The missionaries and the athiests in the South must be countered with a full force to save our values and bring a vedic renaisance.
    Raajaananda Nithya
    Yes, I am also perplexed... how can the court enforce this kind of a power?? Paramahamsa Nithyananda has been preaching the same truths that were always there in our Vedic Tradition, he simply says it in a way and manner in which people in the present day can understand.

    Sir, don't you feel there are some fundamental rights that are being taken away from Paramahamsa Nithyananda?
    Swarupananda Nithya
    Sir,U are absolutely right.There are no rights to stop the religious activities of any person.that too doing to a great religious master is ridiculous.
    Shawn Bhibekshan Chowdhry
    Time and again truth has been suppressed, poisoned and lynched, the only way is to stand up against those who violate the fundamentals of truth and freedom and remove them from the chairs of power.
    So what is next - It is time again after Swamiji's successful return to Dhyanapeetam, this issue must be addressed equivocally.
    First let us enjoy the Bliss of return of Swamiji to Dhyanapeetam-present moment.
    Sri Nithya Sri Priyan
    http://nithyananda-satya.org/index....iew&catid=7&id=48&limit=10&limitstart=110#439
     
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    IMO, followers of such fraud "gurus" are intellectual sheep. I wish for a world in which religion has been completely abolished and replaced with ethics, science and a search for higher knowledge. If anything deserves worship, it is knowledge, if anything needs aspiration, it is wealth. Life after all, always proceeds according to a plan which is often not our own, but someone else's. All we can do therefore, is try and maximise our happiness and pleasure while remaining true to our core ethics.
     
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    can you explain how the above guru is " fraud " and what fraud did he do ? if you read my above post you would know he did nothing wrong according to Hindu scriptures
     
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    Bangalore Sex Swami violated 'rules of tantra'?

    A Foundation statement quoted Sri Sri Ravi Shankar as saying that Swami Nityananda, now in custody, "has violated UNAIDS guidelines as well as the rules of tantra."

    "Only a house holder is entitled for tantric sex. Claiming to be a monk and using so many people for one's pleasure is unpardonable," Ravi Shankar said.

    "He should have had one partner and announced himself as a tantric guru. It has caused damage to the faith of people in the institution and traumatised many."

    Several criminal cases relating to obscenity, criminal intimidation, rape and hurting religious sentiments have been slapped against the 32-year-old 'Sex Swami'.

    http://www.ndtv.com/news/cities/bangalore-sex-swami-violated-rules-of-tantra-21162.php

    Now in police custody in Karnataka, he was on the run since March 3 after television channels showed footage of him in bed with two women.
     
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    Swamy Nityananda's scandal: Abuses of Hindu spiritual Gurus

    Nityananda's sex scandal real or conspired, is a terrible slur on India's distinguished institution of enlightened Hindu Gurus such as Vyasa, Bhardwaj, Vashisth, Nanak, Ramdas and Gargi to name a few. These Gurus did not go around with begging bowls to collect money for building ashrams, schools, orphanages, temples or hospitals. The Guru and his wife (Gurupatni) often ran "Gurukulams" - residential schools where children from the royal families as well as children of paupers came to get free education.

    What we are witnessing now is a 21st century trend of globetrotting, jet set Gurus. This is a new phenomena and it is entirely out of line with traditional Hindu practices. In fact there is nothing Hindu about these fake Gurus except the saffron clothes they wear to fool the gullible.

    These Gurus have managed to create millions of followers. And a good number of them including Swami Nityananda have become millionaires, which contradicts their image as people who are supposed to avoid the material world. The main message these Gurus give to their followers is to shun the material world while the private lives of the Gurus themselves are anything but non-materialistic! In fact, a great many of them lead lives of unimaginable luxury and material comforts.

    Their "ashrams" are ostentatious examples of extravagant comforts of the Gurus and at times their immediate family members which according to tradition they are supposed to give up when they assume sanyaas (renunciation). And since none of these Gurus earn a single penny through gainful employment, their luxurious lifestyle is sustained through donations made by their followers. Many of them travel only first class or business class! All this paid for with money collected in the names of cows, orphans and widows!

    What is even more mind boggling is that once these Gurus take the money, there is hardly any accounting or feedback given to the donors about where and how the money is spent. There are no progress report, no accountability and no transparency. In fact, it may prove to be dangerous to ask for accounting as was demonstrated by the Swadhaya case where a devotee started to ask uncomfortable questions regarding where the funds were being spent. The poor fellow paid with his life! How the tax authorities both in India and abroad allow such blatant abuses is beyond comprehension.

    Swami Nityanand's sex scandal may be only be the tip of the iceberg. Countless abuses probably continue to go on in other ashrams and the blame for letting these abuses continue rests squarely on the shoulders of the donors who give blindly.

    Please Hindus, Wake up. Open your eyes. Educate yourselves about Hindu scriptures and learn about the virtues of a true Guru. Don't be fooled by charlatans and the fraudsters who use religion to milk the gullible of their hard earned money.

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/205178-Swamy-Nityananda-s-scandal-Abuses-of-Hindu-spiritual-Gurus
     
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    Who cares what Hindu scriptures say? Those books were written more than 2500 years ago in a different era, so they reflect the societal sentivities of that time. They have no relevance today except for some basic rules like do not kill others, do not harm others etc. I was talking in a general sense. Most of these gurus are fraud, the others are delusional and the few that are honest don't have very large followings. We have seen countless examples of these "gurus" involved in controversies ranging from child molestation to corruption and fraud. Yet the intellectual sheep don't reform themselves, stuck in the rut of being "followers" of someone or the other.
     
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