Nitish prepares for life outside NDA

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    TWO FACES OF CHANGE - The Congress’s decline means new positions on the other side

     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Nitish has no option but to divorce his party from the NDA Alliance, if Modi is the PM candidate since he requires the Muslim votes to stay in power.

    Likewise, Mamata Bannerjee has the same constraint and so can be counted out to support any NDA match and mix with or without Modi as PM candidate. BJP is a no no for her if she has to politically survive in Bengal.

    Congress has committed harakiri leaving the field open for various wannabes and not so wannabes.

    Next election will be an interesting match to observe.
     
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    A big hypocrite like Nitish Kumar has no place in any alliance be it NDA, or UPA or any other formation. Privately he acknowledges that he needs BJP to win "Hindu" votes, then he goes on to lambast the best leader in the same party. The party which won a lot of seats for his state government. He continues to stoke the fire by commenting from time to time and hinting that Modi is, in any way, something less deserving than himself to be a contender for the Prime Minister race.
    Truly, such people, with so much doubts and so much of hypocrisy should find no place in the society, much less Politics and Leadership.
     
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    One has to judge his pronouncement with the political arithmetic that constitutes Bihar and the influence of various parties on the same and calculating that, where Nitish stands.

    Bihar has a large Muslim and non upper caste electorate.

    Laloo and Paswan too can make a serious dent as far as the latter class is concerned.

    Therefore, possibly Nitish has realised that even without upper caste Hindu and BJP votes, but with the solid backing of Muslim and non upper caste votes, he will scrape home the winner.

    In politics of India, there are no principles, it is all about how to garner votes so that one could warm the seat of power!
     
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    ^^ Fully agree with you Sir.
    But we can all hope that someone would be different. One would have hoped that Nitish who is hailed as almost a saviour of the state of Bihar, would be a bit more sincere, in his words, if not actions. Unfortunately, hoping that Nitish would be the one with a difference was a mad hope.
    There was and is no need of him to support Modi. His silence and his actions could have spoken for him. But for his posturing and his holier-than-thou attitude, he has shown himself to be unworthy of even being PM contender.
     
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    We must remember two very important things.
    First JD(U) in it's earlier avatar Samata Party was the first "Secular Party" to align with the BJP. This happened in the mid 90s and is continuing till date successfully in Bihar.

    Second, JD(U) foundations are more based on anti-Congress politics of JP rather than any other ideology. They know that aligning with the Congress will not give them any advantage,as the Congress is a spent force in Bihar. On the contrary BJP still retains a good hold in select pockets of Bihar, with the Upper Castes and gives a boost to JD(U) in the elections. ( It is a two way street, but the BJP has more to offer).

    Third please remember there is no alternative in Bihar, Laloo and Paswan are finished along with the Congress. The Muslim voters and the non Yadav-OBCs know that Nitish is the only leader who is delivering on the promises he made. The last Assembly election was in partnership with the BJP and the alliance romped home with record number of seats.

    These posturing are symbolic in nature and do not represent any shift in strategy. Nitish knows that being in the NDA, he still has a fairly good chance to become the PM but allying with the Congress, he will never get a shot at the top seat.
     
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    well time has come when bjp should declare Mr Modi name openly

    only he is a person who can produce some great changes
     
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Time has not come yet. Let him win assembly elections here in Gujarat 1st.Many people from BJP is trying to pull his leg here but people are with him so,ultimately he should win easily.
     
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    I don't think he will go out of NDA.........
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Why blame Nitish when the BJP themselves are infighting for the PM's role. No one in the BJP leadership want Modi as the PM candidate. There are at least a dozen leaders within the BJP who have aspirations of being PM.
     
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    +1 tw and let's not forget RSS is not behind Modi either.




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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    :jaw: what!!!!!!!!!
     
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    And how do you know that ???
     
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    Tapatalk :laugh:
     
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    Tells you every thing you can need to know about 'SECULAR' politics of Mr Nitish Kumar. And fortunately for him, most of the Hindi hinterland is filled with morons who will vote for 2000 rupees a pop.


     
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    If Nitish walks out of NDA now, he would be a faire target of BJP. Maybe his govt in Bihar, possible only with BJP support will fall.

    He he does walk out, Modi simply walks in, and Modi whirl wind in Bihar might blow away Nitish.

    Nitish baith kar muslim vote bank to chate, but from opposition benches.
     
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    Modi is far from an upper caste Hindu. Yes, he is an OBC Hindu. Non upper castes even in Bihar are Hindus, and Modi can drill it into them. In a polarised situation, castes would be irrelevant, as Modi has shown.
     
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    No one in BJP Leadership wants Modi as PM? A tall claim Mr trackwhack, but may I know if someone from BJP has publicly stated this? This is a cadre based party unlike Khangress. If cadres want him, which they do, they simply won't coordinate with other leaders and such leaders would simply not be able to win their seats. Votes, the majority of them, atleast for the BJP are won because of the cadres and the groundwork they lay.
    As for the reason of attacking Nitish. It is simple. His hypocrisy. He need not support Modi, but he need not be a hypocrite either, which he has shown himself to be, given his rhetoric and actions.

    But isn't that an ideal situation a 'secular' person like you would want? If anything, Modi has exemplified how religion can be separated from politics, by his actions, not rhetoric. Sounds preposterous, says your secular mind, eh?
    Well, it is a paradox. He has been able to do it. Development is the plank on which the next election is being fought, I hope this fact speaks for itself what Modi has been able to achieve.

    For the records, RSS has never come out publicly against Modi. Nor will they ever.
     
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    1. News - for eg rss honchos refused to meet modi
    2. Silence from RSS+BJP re:Modi's fate
    3. RSS gossipmongers

    Sent from an abyss of despair
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There can be dissent in a cadre based party.

    There can be NO dissent in a Dynasty based Party.

    That is the difference!
     

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