Nervous Paki Govt admits they are being ISOLATED Internationally by India

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  1. rock127

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    Exclusive: Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military

    ISLAMABAD: In a blunt, orchestrated and unprecedented warning, the Civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.

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    As a result of the most recent meeting, an undisclosed one on the day of the All Parties’ Conference on Monday, at least two sets of actions have been agreed.

    First, ISI DG Gen Rizwan Akhtar, accompanied by National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua, is to travel to each of the four provinces with a message for provincial apex committees and ISI sector commanders.

    The message: military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action. Gen Akhtar’s inter-provincial tour has begun with a visit to Lahore.

    Second, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has directed that fresh attempts be made to conclude the Pathankot investigation and restart the stalled Mumbai attacks-related trials in a Rawalpindi antiterrorism court.Those decisions, taken after an extraordinary verbal confrontation between Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the ISI DG, appear to indicate a high-stakes new approach by the PML-N government.

    The following account is based on conversations with Dawn of individuals present in the crucial meetings this week.All declined to speak on the record and none of the attributed statements were confirmed by the individuals mentioned.

    Foreign secretary’s presentation
    On Monday, on the day of the All Parties’ Conference, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry gave a separate, exclusive presentation in the Prime Minister’s Office to a small group of civil and military officials.

    The meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Sharif and included senior cabinet and provincial officials. On the military side, ISI DG Rizwan Akhtar led the representatives.

    The presentation by the foreign secretary summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

    On the US, Mr Chaudhry said that relations have deteriorated and will likely further deteriorate because of the American demand that action be taken against the Haqqani network. On India, Mr Chaudhry stated that the completion of the Pathankot investigation and some visible action against Jaish-i-Mohammad were the principal demands.

    Then, to a hushed but surprised room, Mr Chaudhry suggested that while China has reiterated its support for Pakistan, it too has indicated a preference for a change in course by Pakistan. Specifically, while Chinese authorities have conveyed their willingness to keep putting on technical hold a UN ban on Jaish-i-Mohammad leader Masood Azhar, they have questioned the logic of doing so repeatedly.

    Extraordinary exchange
    The foreign secretary’s unexpectedly blunt conclusions triggered an astonishing and potentially ground-shifting exchange between the ISI DG and several civilian officials.

    In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Mr Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

    To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.

    Addressing Gen Akhtar, the younger Sharif complained that whenever action has been taken against certain groups by civilian authorities, the security establishment has worked behind the scenes to set the arrested free. Astounded onlookers describe a stunned room that was immediately aware of the extraordinary, unprecedented nature of the exchange.

    To defuse tensions, Prime Minister Sharif himself addressed Gen Akhtar and said that policies pursued in the past were state policies and as such they were the collective responsibility of the state and that the ISI DG was not being accused of complicity in present-day events.

    PM’s strategy?
    Several eyewitnesses to the incredible events of Monday believe that the foreign secretary’s presentation and Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s intervention were orchestrated by the prime minister to stir the military to action, leading to the decision to dispatch the ISI DG on an inter-provincial tour.

    Yet, according to the accounts shared with Dawn, the sparring between the ISI DG and civilian officials did not degenerate into acrimony.Earlier in the meeting, ISI DG Gen Akhtar stated that not only is it the military’s policy to not distinguish between militant groups, but that the military is committed to that policy prevailing. The ISI chief did mention concerns about the timing of action against several groups, citing the need to not be seen as buckling to Indian pressure or abandoning the Kashmiri people.

    Gen Akhtar also readily agreed to tour the provinces at the direction of the prime minister, issue fresh orders to ISI sector commanders and meet with provincial apex committees to chalk out specific actions that need to be taken in various provinces.

    According to several government officials, Monday’s confrontation was part of a high-stakes gamble by Prime Minister Sharif to try and forestall further diplomatic pressure on Pakistan. In separate meetings with the army chief, participants describe an animated and energised Mr Sharif, who has argued that Pakistan faces real isolation if policy adjustments are not made.

    Government officials, however, are divided about whether Prime Minister Sharif’s gamble will pay off. According to one official, commenting on the ISI DG’s commitments, “This is what we prayed to hear all our lives. Let’s see if it happens.” Another government official offered: “Wait till November to see if action will be taken. By then a lot of things will be settled.”

    Military officials declined to comment.
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    Not only the world but even ALL SAARC nations have isolated you and called you TERRORIST.

    Recent Indian Sur G Kal strikes has jolted whole of Pakistan but they were in DENIAL MODE.The PoK Police has admitted that India came inside PoK and killed Paki Army and Terrorists.This is same story when Pakis refused and accepted and refused and accepted and refused Kasab being a Paki.

    There are growing noise that it's a Sharif Vs Sharif war and relations between Govt and Army are very bad.Some while back there were posters in Pakistan to overthrow Govt.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    More news coming up.... whats cooking in Pakistan? :stirpot:
    Guess what... Paki PM is also the Foreign Minister since they used the FM salary for Terrorism. :rofl:

    Also CPEC = China Pakistan Punjab Economic Corridor as their own ministers say.


    Nawaz Sharif responsible for Pakistan's diplomatic isolation, Aitzaz tells joint session
    Dawn.com — Updated about an hour ago

    ISLAMABAD: PPP leader Aitzaz Ahsan addressing a joint session of parliament on Thursday held Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif responsible for Pakistan's diplomatic isolation.

    "If this is not a failure of our foreign ministry, then what is it?" he asked.

    The senator said that because the prime minister himself is the foreign minister, Pakistan's isolation could be seen as Nawaz Sharif's personal failure.

    "Nawaz Sharif did not anticipate the Uri attack. Our defence minister said that perhaps India did it themselves to divert attention away from Kashmir."I agree it is possible, but then why is it Pakistan, who is isolated now? It is because you have given freedom to non-state actors."

    Aitzaz called on the government to fight the India Waters Treaty case and present Pakistan's stance on Kashmir."We are with you," he said, reiterating the party's earlier stance of unity with the government on the Kashmir issue.

    He slammed the focus on Punjab in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). "The impression that CPEC is the China Punjab Economic Corridor is not acceptable to us. The $46 billion CPEC investment is not more important than national unity," he said.

    Echoing PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's views on Panamagate, Aitzaz said that the party has presented a bill in Senate which would allow the PM to clear his and his family's name in the Panama Papers scandal.
     
  4. Ankit Purohit

    Ankit Purohit Senior Member Senior Member

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    The rock Bro ,one day they will Isolate from the planet.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Inshah Allah.

    Ameeeen and Chowmeeeen

    Allah is the besht and he is with India and punishing Un-Islamic Pakis.
     
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    pakis always plays to the international arena.
    They felt the heat..they changed the tune what is coming out of the pak establishment..
    They just gave the world what the world would want to listen to.

    "Tell them what they want to hear and they will leave you alone"--Thats what pak played.

    Only thing we can safely assume is pak felt the heat and BURNOL (as used and found effective by the paki posters on DFI) which paki usually applies in such condition is not working.

    Seems like the Indian army's flame throwers used during surgical strikes gave the pakis a 3rd degree Burn.


    But inside the core..nothing changes.
    pakis will be pakis and their army will still continue to use the terrorism as a state policy.


    On the isolation front..pakis must have found it very tough to move international documents between them and other nations :D
    There was a news that Indian lobby will prevent any one nation/pvt companies or individuals from investing in pak.
    So yes..the isolation reality blew on pakis face big time.

    The rest is just a show for the international audience.
     
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    Ankit Purohit Senior Member Senior Member

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    Ab Aalam ye hai ki ye na ghar ke hai na ghat ke.
     
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    Any nation worth its name, flag or for whatever it stands for its people would have lashed Raheel Sharif and his predecessor's for the shame isolation and destruction they have brought upon the nation.
     
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    Ever since Kargil two sets of people from India that paki civilian establishment were wary of, our diplomatic corps and media.

    This time too our foreign service and media lived upto their expectations......
     
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    Pakistan only cared about military parity with India so it lapped first in US lap and now it has china. Other countries don't matter much to them , no don't have much trade anyway. OIC supported them on Kashmir but even they are showing discord. Ultimately it's the china card all the way . If Chinese would loose the leash it would bark if they will reign in it will go silent.
     
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    pak has a nice way of embarrassing their friends..
    Like US - the OBL case
    china - JEM chief case
    :D
     
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    Usual Paki nautnki, enoy it but don't fall for it.
     
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    That's obvious. The Paki jihadi army needs an enemy as otherwise they'll be rendered worthless. They'll loose their power and pelf in Paki society. They need to keep the cauldron boiling till the cows come home. And India fits the bill well.

    Thus it can be safely assumed that the Kashmir issue will continue to smolder till the end of time. If anyone thinks that the Paki military is keen to help solve Kashmir is barking up the wrong tree. It's never going to happen.
     
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    Food for thought: Sindhis are almost nonexistent in the Sindh Regiment and Baloch too are nearly non existent in the Baloch Regiment!

    These Regiments are dominated mostly by Punjabis who rule Porkistan.
     
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    And mirchi seth says it's India being isolated, not Pakistan. @Singh what you say about Kejriwal now who thinks India is being isolated ??
     
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    Sounds like stage managed drama by Pak govt & it's army. Shabhaz Sharif's Punjab govt yearly allocates funds for Hafiz Saeed & it's terrorist organisation from state budget. While army takes care of LeT's needs, govt looks after its recruiting arm JuD! I don't think we should get carried away with these antics of Pak establishment!
     
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    They have made sure that the Sindhis and Balochis hardly have any military training and hence less chance of revolt.
     
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    omg so much isolation

    Belarus President in Pakistan
    Russian military drills with Pakistan
    Iranian navy drills with Pakistan (right on the EEZ borders)
    NATO Military Committee meeting with Nawaz Sharif
    Whitehouse brushed aside the petition to declare "Pakistan a terrorist state".
    Russia investment in Pakistan gas refineries and power plants (just yesterday)
    Russian high-level meeting with Pakistan military
    Russia to join CASA-1000 project
    Iran requests Pakistan and China for admission into CPEC
    CPEC's investments cross the 100 billion dollar mark
    Gulf market subsidies 70% for Pakistani companies
    Qatar sign LNG deal with Pakistan
    UAE increases investment and aid into PK education
    Iranian envoys prepare roadmaps for increased trade with Pakistan
    Iran pledges to fulfill Pakistan's energy needs

    all this news in just a week? woah...

    we feel sooooo isolated.

    Keep eating the shit that your media feeds you.

    Anyway, good luck and goodbye.
     
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    Yes, that totally makes sense.
     
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    Meanwhile in the land of ronald mcdonald mcmurdererz:

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    Iqbal *Bacchabazi* bhai the dumb Hijra Lawhori: Duhuey vee are so mach inteegrayted vith rest of warld. Duhuey ebin Homeland lubz uz. Duhuey Dawn iz bezt nyewzpaypar in warld no mistakez. Ebry singal tranzakshan ve hab vith warld mast meen dey fakkin lub us.

    Somehow I wished I was more surprised by this but I'm not. The cringe is real my guys the cringe is real ^v^
     
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