Nehru Was The Worst Disaster To Ever Hit India

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Interestin interview with James W Michaels, editor of Forbes for 40+ years and who was in India in 1948 as head of UPI. Note what he says on Kashmir - Kashmiris will be better off with India but they dont want it so let them go and stew in their own juices.

    Nehru Was The Worst Disaster To Ever Hit India

     
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    If anyone deserves to be Father of the Nation after Gandhi, it was Nehru. Despite all his faults and lack of strategic thinking, without Nehru, India would have been like Pakistan today.....a completely wayward, undemocratic, overtly religious failed state.

    Everything from the foundations of Indian industry, both public and private, higher education, democracy, governance, the Constitution, the free press, secularism etc etc was Nehru's contribution. Of course, Nehru was human and had his faults....but to ignore his massive contribution to modern India and judge him badly because he was not 100% perfect is utterly unfair.

    As for socialism, the vast majority of Indians at the time were pro-Swadeshi, and if anyone has learnt any history, they will remember the foreign cloth burnings that Gandhi encouraged all over India. British rule of India was basically economic genocide perpetrated by foreigners......and nobody in their right mind would have wanted to invite another East India type company into India as soon as the nation gained independence. Indian industry at the time was non-existent, so allowing foreign multinationals into India would have guaranteed that Indian industry could never take root and compete against the established foreign companies.

    The path of Indian economic progress has been almost ideal in that earlier leaders used the mantra of socialism to shield domestic private industries from foreign competition while at the same time making massive state investments in creating the public sector from scratch. After both were able to stand up on their own two feet, the Indian market has been opened little by little to foreign companies to promote innovation and drive down prices for the consumer through competition. One can argue about the pace of liberalization, but certainly not the path that was chosen-that of economic self-sufficiency.
     
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    Agree partly, but perhaps Sardar Patel might have been a better choice as PM ?
     
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    I don't see how. Sardar Patel passed away soon after independence. Would you have liked to see a power struggle within Congress just 2 or 3 years after independence with both Gandhi and Patel dead? That would have jeopardized all that India has achieved with Nehru firmly at the helm.
     
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    Just speculating.Sardar Patel as well as Rajajgopalachari did not agree with Nehru's grand socialist vision. Perhaps India would have been like Singapore or Malaysia.
     
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    If we are really venturing into hypotheticals and looking for a replacement for Nehru, I'd have preferred Netaji Bose over either Patel or anyone else. Here was an enterprising man whose strength of conviction led him to travel to far and distant lands in hope of securing India's independence. A strategically astute leader with a fiery brand of patriotism....that's who I respect.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better myself. Netaji might have been a better candidate for India's first PM (honestly, the only better candidate), but to say that Nehru was India's 'worst disaster' is pure idiocy.
     
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    Nehru has been a disaster agreed.
    but has many positive sides too.

    he is the one who identified the importance of industrialization started the first steps towards it.
    he always spoke of making India self sufficient.
    people may get a doubt that why our politicians didn't chose capitalism simple our then leaders thought its not correct to join a group from whom we fought and got our freedom. so we chose neutral stance rather than joining communists
    Nehru identified importance of higher education and started work accordingly. today we have a very strong higher education system than many countries.
    he identified the importance of civil/military application of nuclear technology
    he is the first person to think of non-allignment policy.

    his negatives were
    he always wanted to be a world leader without understanding consequences of his steps, that's why
    kashmir dispute, dispute with china etc
    overall he is a good administrator, but had poor anticipation
     
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    Nice summary - his main blunders were in foreign policy - Kashmir and China.
     
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    Given resources and will of a newly independent zealous nation anyone could done what Nehru did on internal fronts.

    Because of the blunders he did on Kashmir ignoring S.Patel suggestion and Chinese invasion, refusing permanent seat or not doing efforts to get one; India has been still contained within sub continent, struggling to open up, without global influence of a world power, not even a regional power, facing malignant animosities of two neighbouring nuclear states, surrounded by failed states hardly friendly of no use but blackmailing liabilities.
     
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    I wont call Nehru a total blunder but yes Sardar Patel was a better choice.
     
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    Gandhi and Nehru Both are Jackas*es of the Highest Order.

    The Country's Future had to be Industrialization and Modernization, Not Jacksh!t Idelaism, Socilaism, Communism and Nationalization which only gave the World's Largest Poverty.
     
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    the only choice.Great sardar patel
     
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    Nehru was a cute chap.

    Mountbatten would have stood witness!

    What a great man!

    He was an International powerhouse.

    Can't blame him!

    When looking at the macro picture, one can lose out on reality!

    So, did Gandhi!
     
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    Mountbattens wife Edwina might have been a better witness for Nehrudl cuteness
     
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    Though I will NEVER forgive Nehru for China blunder but overall I feel
    that his seventeen years at the helm were NECESSARY because the most important task
    for India was STABILISATION

    Patel did a fine job with integration but still newly independent India was fundamentally weak and shaky

    Jinnah's death and the consequent chaos in Pakistan makes us wonder
    what if there was a similar power struggle in India
     
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    Our socialistic economic policies were absolutely necessary

    Other wise India would have been carved out and divided between the rich industrialists

    And then there would have been a NATIONWIDE Communist
    rebellion and the CPM would have come to power

    Infact Indira Gandhi is the real villlain of the slow Indian economic growth

    From 1969 to 1980 India had the WORST economic growth

    That was because Indira had made it impossible for pvt sector to function
     
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    Nehru is often blamed for Kashmir fiasco or mistake

    But people always forget that UK and USA were PRO PAKISTAN in 1949

    And they would have NEVER allowed India to take whole of Kashmir and some
    kind of division would have been ENFORCED by the big powers

    BY going to UN as a VICTIM India gained a lot of time and slowly world attention
    on Kashmir was over and India could simply refuse to honour its plebescite promise
     
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    In India North Eastern states had started their insurgencies
    as early as in the decade of the FIFTIES and even IAF was used to bomb
    the insurgents in Nagaland

    AFSPA ; the MUCH maligned law was made by Nehru to protect India's territorial integrity
    in 1958
     

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