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Guy's do you thing the LCA Navy would be able to operate off the Juan Carlos Class LHD if a trap wire system and angled flight deck was installed.
It already has a jump ramp and the aviation facilities for the Harrier and F-35B.
Seems to be a interesting idea since we might get the ship and have a aircraft that might be able to fly off it.
 

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Guy's do you thing the LCA Navy would be able to operate off the Juan Carlos Class LHD if a trap wire system and angled flight deck was installed.
It already has a jump ramp and the aviation facilities for the Harrier and F-35B.
Seems to be a interesting idea since we might get the ship and have a aircraft that might be able to fly off it.
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We are no were in negotiations with the navantia for building LHD ..where did you got this info that we are going to get this LHD ship ???

Guy's do you thing the LCA Navy would be able to operate off the Juan Carlos Class LHD if a trap wire system and angled flight deck was installed.
It already has a jump ramp and the aviation facilities for the Harrier and F-35B.
Seems to be a interesting idea since we might get the ship and have a aircraft that might be able to fly off it.
 

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-tejas-didnt-fit-the-bill/article17664569.ece

‘We back indigenisation, but Tejas didn’t fit the bill’



Naval chief outlines his vision for the force based on timelines for projects and induction of personnel, especially women

The Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Sunil Lanba, in a wide-ranging interview with The Hindu, clarifies that the Navy has only taken a purely technical decision in turning down the naval version of the light combat aircraft developed by the DRDO despite its strong commitment to indigenisation. He highlights the need to step up training facilities to meet personnel shortage and the Navy’s strong ‘Act East’ focus.

All along, the Navy had placed thrust on indigenisation of assets, but is now facing flak for turning down the home-grown fighter LCA Navy, which is being read as a retreat from the earlier commitment.

We are the pioneers of indigenisation, which we started in the 1960s and have worked shoulder-to-shoulder with the DRDO, whose naval labs also have naval personnel. As for the LCA (light combat aircraft Tejas) programme, the Navy was the first service to support the ADA (the Aeronautical Development Agency) in its development and the Air Force came on board at a later date. What the Navy wants is a deck-based fighter, but the LCA Navy Mk1 doesn’t meet that requirement. Its power-to-weight ratio, the thrust the engine generates [are insufficient] and it’s underpowered for the airframe. Unfortunately, even the Mk2 variant doesn’t qualify. That’s why we took this case up to the Defence Ministry.

A good 25% of the financial support for the project comes from the Navy. As and when the ADA produces a fighter that can operate from the deck of an aircraft carrier, we will be more than willing to acquire it and fly it. The LCA Navy was supposed to be flying off from [the aircraft carrier] Vikramaditya. The second carrier, Vikrant, should be sailing in 2019. So we want a deck-based fighter today. The timelines that the ADA promised to generate one was over a decade ago. We are looking at a period of at least a decade for the ADA to produce a deck-based fighter. In the meantime, the Ministry has allowed us to go ahead and look for a fighter that meets our requirements following which we issued an RFI.

Timelines have slipped for the under-construction, maiden indigenous carrier Vikrant thanks in part also to delay in delivery of aviation equipment from Russia. Also, what is the latest on the third carrier?

There have been some delays in the delivery of equipment for the aviation complex from Russia. We are hopeful that Vikrant will start going to trials in 2019.

As for the IAC-II [second indigenous aircraft carrier], we are taking up the case with the Ministry for which we will get an approval sooner than later. We are looking at a CATOBAR aircraft carrier above 65,000 tonnes and with EMALS and an advanced air strip.

What will be the fate of the decommissioned carrier INS Viraat?

The Navy will like the Viraat to be converted into a museum, but it is not the Navy’s job to do that. We made an offer through the Ministry to all the coastal States, but only Andhra Pradesh responded. The offer was that we will give the ship to you and you will convert it into a maritime museum at your cost, without any funding from the Ministry. The proposal that we got from Andhra Pradesh was for a 50:50 partnership. The Ministry is very clear that they are not going to do that. So, at the moment, we have no proposal to convert her into a museum. If we don’t have a concrete proposal, we propose that the ship be scrapped. Off the cuff, what I thought was we could take her out to sea and make her a maritime museum by sinking her in 30-40 metres of water not far from the coast, thereby turning her into a diving site. Interested people will dive to have a sight of the ship.

We don’t want to go through the Vikrant experience in which we gifted the ship to the State of Maharashtra for ₹1 and got stuck with her for 17 years, occupying valuable berthing space. And, then there was this hullabaloo when she was to be scrapped. It’s a costly affair to convert a carrier into a floating maritime museum and given the cost of construction of a jetty, it costs you roughly about ₹1,000 crore.

How do you plan to address shortage of personnel and also attain gender parity by inducting women officers in combat roles?

There is a steady growth in the number of sailors and officers being integrated, and overall shortages as per percentage have come down. But we are constrained by our capacity to train. We have to get the right kind of people and have to compete with other avenues that are open to youngsters to get the kind of people we need. The shortages are gradually being bridged, with the Indian Naval Academy working in full capacity at 1,300 cadets. We induct about 800 officers each year, but 500 retire annually. So the net gain is 300. With increase in training capacity and the government sanctioning more numbers, we will be able to liquidate the shortage in five to six years.

The other issue is of inducting women to serve on board ships. We have about 570 women officers in branches such as education, logistics, ATC, as observers on maritime reconnaissance aircraft and the law, and not counting the doctors. We have identified ships on which [billeting] facilities are available for women officers and are working on the modalities of their induction on board ships. We need some minimum numbers [of women] on each ship. We are also going to do a survey and ask them if they want to serve on board ships. And then we will take a call and take this proposal forward.

A string of accidents had dented the image of the Navy a couple of years ago. It seemed to be a thing of the past when the frigate INS Betwa collapsed on its side in the drydock late last year.

To be honest, I cannot give an assurance that there will be zero accidents. But SOPs have been put in place and a culture of safety is being enforced. The number of accidents has come down drastically lately. Some of those past incidents have been blown out of proportion by the media.INS Betwa’s was an accident that shouldn’t have happened. A Board of Inquiry is looking into it. Basically, there was a mistake in calculating the stability [on the blocks].

Of late, the Navy has been focussing strongly on the eastern side, strengthening the security apparatus along the island chains.

In Andaman and Nicobar, newer and more capable assets are in place in the form of Kora-class ships [corvettes] and there is a long-term infrastructure plan where airfields in the northern group of islands are being strengthened and lengthened for heavier aircraft to operate. A similar project is taking place in the south. Infrastructure plans of making OTR (operational turnaround) facilities in the southern group of islands have started to move. The Boeing P8I [long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft] is being deployed from Port Blair.

At the same time, our cooperation with our neighbours in the east has grown. We have resolved our maritime boundary issues with Bangladesh and there is much greater interaction with Myanmar, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore. It’s no just ‘Look East’, we are also ‘Acting East’ in accordance with the government’s policy.

We are assisting island nations in the IOR (Indian Ocean Region) and neighbours in the East in capability enhancement and are doing coordinated patrols with Myanmar, Thailand and Indonesia.

For full text of the interview, visit http://bit.ly/sunillanbainterview

 

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I thought it's a consensus, at least I learn from DFI members, that India Navy will still back LCA-Mk2. Or I myself misread the information.
 

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-tejas-didnt-fit-the-bill/article17664569.ece

‘We back indigenisation, but Tejas didn’t fit the bill’



Naval chief outlines his vision for the force based on timelines for projects and induction of personnel, especially women

The Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Sunil Lanba, in a wide-ranging interview with The Hindu, clarifies that the Navy has only taken a purely technical decision in turning down the naval version of the light combat aircraft developed by the DRDO despite its strong commitment to indigenisation. He highlights the need to step up training facilities to meet personnel shortage and the Navy’s strong ‘Act East’ focus.

All along, the Navy had placed thrust on indigenisation of assets, but is now facing flak for turning down the home-grown fighter LCA Navy, which is being read as a retreat from the earlier commitment.

We are the pioneers of indigenisation, which we started in the 1960s and have worked shoulder-to-shoulder with the DRDO, whose naval labs also have naval personnel. As for the LCA (light combat aircraft Tejas) programme, the Navy was the first service to support the ADA (the Aeronautical Development Agency) in its development and the Air Force came on board at a later date. What the Navy wants is a deck-based fighter, but the LCA Navy Mk1 doesn’t meet that requirement. Its power-to-weight ratio, the thrust the engine generates [are insufficient] and it’s underpowered for the airframe. Unfortunately, even the Mk2 variant doesn’t qualify. That’s why we took this case up to the Defence Ministry.

A good 25% of the financial support for the project comes from the Navy. As and when the ADA produces a fighter that can operate from the deck of an aircraft carrier, we will be more than willing to acquire it and fly it. The LCA Navy was supposed to be flying off from [the aircraft carrier] Vikramaditya. The second carrier, Vikrant, should be sailing in 2019. So we want a deck-based fighter today. The timelines that the ADA promised to generate one was over a decade ago. We are looking at a period of at least a decade for the ADA to produce a deck-based fighter. In the meantime, the Ministry has allowed us to go ahead and look for a fighter that meets our requirements following which we issued an RFI.

Timelines have slipped for the under-construction, maiden indigenous carrier Vikrant thanks in part also to delay in delivery of aviation equipment from Russia. Also, what is the latest on the third carrier?

There have been some delays in the delivery of equipment for the aviation complex from Russia. We are hopeful that Vikrant will start going to trials in 2019.

As for the IAC-II [second indigenous aircraft carrier], we are taking up the case with the Ministry for which we will get an approval sooner than later. We are looking at a CATOBAR aircraft carrier above 65,000 tonnes and with EMALS and an advanced air strip.

What will be the fate of the decommissioned carrier INS Viraat?

The Navy will like the Viraat to be converted into a museum, but it is not the Navy’s job to do that. We made an offer through the Ministry to all the coastal States, but only Andhra Pradesh responded. The offer was that we will give the ship to you and you will convert it into a maritime museum at your cost, without any funding from the Ministry. The proposal that we got from Andhra Pradesh was for a 50:50 partnership. The Ministry is very clear that they are not going to do that. So, at the moment, we have no proposal to convert her into a museum. If we don’t have a concrete proposal, we propose that the ship be scrapped. Off the cuff, what I thought was we could take her out to sea and make her a maritime museum by sinking her in 30-40 metres of water not far from the coast, thereby turning her into a diving site. Interested people will dive to have a sight of the ship.

We don’t want to go through the Vikrant experience in which we gifted the ship to the State of Maharashtra for ₹1 and got stuck with her for 17 years, occupying valuable berthing space. And, then there was this hullabaloo when she was to be scrapped. It’s a costly affair to convert a carrier into a floating maritime museum and given the cost of construction of a jetty, it costs you roughly about ₹1,000 crore.

How do you plan to address shortage of personnel and also attain gender parity by inducting women officers in combat roles?

There is a steady growth in the number of sailors and officers being integrated, and overall shortages as per percentage have come down. But we are constrained by our capacity to train. We have to get the right kind of people and have to compete with other avenues that are open to youngsters to get the kind of people we need. The shortages are gradually being bridged, with the Indian Naval Academy working in full capacity at 1,300 cadets. We induct about 800 officers each year, but 500 retire annually. So the net gain is 300. With increase in training capacity and the government sanctioning more numbers, we will be able to liquidate the shortage in five to six years.

The other issue is of inducting women to serve on board ships. We have about 570 women officers in branches such as education, logistics, ATC, as observers on maritime reconnaissance aircraft and the law, and not counting the doctors. We have identified ships on which [billeting] facilities are available for women officers and are working on the modalities of their induction on board ships. We need some minimum numbers [of women] on each ship. We are also going to do a survey and ask them if they want to serve on board ships. And then we will take a call and take this proposal forward.

A string of accidents had dented the image of the Navy a couple of years ago. It seemed to be a thing of the past when the frigate INS Betwa collapsed on its side in the drydock late last year.

To be honest, I cannot give an assurance that there will be zero accidents. But SOPs have been put in place and a culture of safety is being enforced. The number of accidents has come down drastically lately. Some of those past incidents have been blown out of proportion by the media.INS Betwa’s was an accident that shouldn’t have happened. A Board of Inquiry is looking into it. Basically, there was a mistake in calculating the stability [on the blocks].

Of late, the Navy has been focussing strongly on the eastern side, strengthening the security apparatus along the island chains.

In Andaman and Nicobar, newer and more capable assets are in place in the form of Kora-class ships [corvettes] and there is a long-term infrastructure plan where airfields in the northern group of islands are being strengthened and lengthened for heavier aircraft to operate. A similar project is taking place in the south. Infrastructure plans of making OTR (operational turnaround) facilities in the southern group of islands have started to move. The Boeing P8I [long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft] is being deployed from Port Blair.

At the same time, our cooperation with our neighbours in the east has grown. We have resolved our maritime boundary issues with Bangladesh and there is much greater interaction with Myanmar, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore. It’s no just ‘Look East’, we are also ‘Acting East’ in accordance with the government’s policy.

We are assisting island nations in the IOR (Indian Ocean Region) and neighbours in the East in capability enhancement and are doing coordinated patrols with Myanmar, Thailand and Indonesia.

For full text of the interview, visit http://bit.ly/sunillanbainterview

How come Gripen M which has the same engine as Tejas is fit for IN and not Tejas?
 

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Its interesting that Navy in past pushed the program this far and suddenly this gentleman comes around and speak opposite of all other admirals before him ..

What he mention was also mentioned by Navy admirals but did not talked about ditching such important project, He is suggesting to dump India`s Naval aviation baby steps along with million dollar infrastructure which was build around for R&D ..

He is simply asking for imports and making a environment where Indians scientific community cannot start again for next 25 years which will open doors for large imports of arms ..
 

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Its interesting that Navy in past pushed the program this far and suddenly this gentleman comes around and speak opposite of all other admirals before him ..

What he mention was also mentioned by Navy admirals but did not talked about ditching such important project, He is suggesting to dump India`s Naval aviation baby steps along with million dollar infrastructure which was build around for R&D ..

He is simply asking for imports and making a environment where Indians scientific community cannot start again for next 25 years which will open doors for large imports of arms ..
Sir do you think there is any future of naval LCA after admirals remark and Navy's decision to buy 57 aircrafts?????
I think the decision to import 57 jets will hamper naval amca
 

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-tejas-didnt-fit-the-bill/article17664569.ece

‘We back indigenisation, but Tejas didn’t fit the bill’



Naval chief outlines his vision for the force based on timelines for projects and induction of personnel, especially women

The Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Sunil Lanba, in a wide-ranging interview with The Hindu, clarifies that the Navy has only taken a purely technical decision in turning down the naval version of the light combat aircraft developed by the DRDO despite its strong commitment to indigenisation. He highlights the need to step up training facilities to meet personnel shortage and the Navy’s strong ‘Act East’ focus.

All along, the Navy had placed thrust on indigenisation of assets, but is now facing flak for turning down the home-grown fighter LCA Navy, which is being read as a retreat from the earlier commitment.

We are the pioneers of indigenisation, which we started in the 1960s and have worked shoulder-to-shoulder with the DRDO, whose naval labs also have naval personnel. As for the LCA (light combat aircraft Tejas) programme, the Navy was the first service to support the ADA (the Aeronautical Development Agency) in its development and the Air Force came on board at a later date. What the Navy wants is a deck-based fighter, but the LCA Navy Mk1 doesn’t meet that requirement. Its power-to-weight ratio, the thrust the engine generates [are insufficient] and it’s underpowered for the airframe. Unfortunately, even the Mk2 variant doesn’t qualify. That’s why we took this case up to the Defence Ministry.

A good 25% of the financial support for the project comes from the Navy. As and when the ADA produces a fighter that can operate from the deck of an aircraft carrier, we will be more than willing to acquire it and fly it. The LCA Navy was supposed to be flying off from [the aircraft carrier] Vikramaditya. The second carrier, Vikrant, should be sailing in 2019. So we want a deck-based fighter today. The timelines that the ADA promised to generate one was over a decade ago. We are looking at a period of at least a decade for the ADA to produce a deck-based fighter. In the meantime, the Ministry has allowed us to go ahead and look for a fighter that meets our requirements following which we issued an RFI.

Timelines have slipped for the under-construction, maiden indigenous carrier Vikrant thanks in part also to delay in delivery of aviation equipment from Russia. Also, what is the latest on the third carrier?

There have been some delays in the delivery of equipment for the aviation complex from Russia. We are hopeful that Vikrant will start going to trials in 2019.

As for the IAC-II [second indigenous aircraft carrier], we are taking up the case with the Ministry for which we will get an approval sooner than later. We are looking at a CATOBAR aircraft carrier above 65,000 tonnes and with EMALS and an advanced air strip.

What will be the fate of the decommissioned carrier INS Viraat?

The Navy will like the Viraat to be converted into a museum, but it is not the Navy’s job to do that. We made an offer through the Ministry to all the coastal States, but only Andhra Pradesh responded. The offer was that we will give the ship to you and you will convert it into a maritime museum at your cost, without any funding from the Ministry. The proposal that we got from Andhra Pradesh was for a 50:50 partnership. The Ministry is very clear that they are not going to do that. So, at the moment, we have no proposal to convert her into a museum. If we don’t have a concrete proposal, we propose that the ship be scrapped. Off the cuff, what I thought was we could take her out to sea and make her a maritime museum by sinking her in 30-40 metres of water not far from the coast, thereby turning her into a diving site. Interested people will dive to have a sight of the ship.

We don’t want to go through the Vikrant experience in which we gifted the ship to the State of Maharashtra for ₹1 and got stuck with her for 17 years, occupying valuable berthing space. And, then there was this hullabaloo when she was to be scrapped. It’s a costly affair to convert a carrier into a floating maritime museum and given the cost of construction of a jetty, it costs you roughly about ₹1,000 crore.

How do you plan to address shortage of personnel and also attain gender parity by inducting women officers in combat roles?

There is a steady growth in the number of sailors and officers being integrated, and overall shortages as per percentage have come down. But we are constrained by our capacity to train. We have to get the right kind of people and have to compete with other avenues that are open to youngsters to get the kind of people we need. The shortages are gradually being bridged, with the Indian Naval Academy working in full capacity at 1,300 cadets. We induct about 800 officers each year, but 500 retire annually. So the net gain is 300. With increase in training capacity and the government sanctioning more numbers, we will be able to liquidate the shortage in five to six years.

The other issue is of inducting women to serve on board ships. We have about 570 women officers in branches such as education, logistics, ATC, as observers on maritime reconnaissance aircraft and the law, and not counting the doctors. We have identified ships on which [billeting] facilities are available for women officers and are working on the modalities of their induction on board ships. We need some minimum numbers [of women] on each ship. We are also going to do a survey and ask them if they want to serve on board ships. And then we will take a call and take this proposal forward.

A string of accidents had dented the image of the Navy a couple of years ago. It seemed to be a thing of the past when the frigate INS Betwa collapsed on its side in the drydock late last year.

To be honest, I cannot give an assurance that there will be zero accidents. But SOPs have been put in place and a culture of safety is being enforced. The number of accidents has come down drastically lately. Some of those past incidents have been blown out of proportion by the media.INS Betwa’s was an accident that shouldn’t have happened. A Board of Inquiry is looking into it. Basically, there was a mistake in calculating the stability [on the blocks].

Of late, the Navy has been focussing strongly on the eastern side, strengthening the security apparatus along the island chains.

In Andaman and Nicobar, newer and more capable assets are in place in the form of Kora-class ships [corvettes] and there is a long-term infrastructure plan where airfields in the northern group of islands are being strengthened and lengthened for heavier aircraft to operate. A similar project is taking place in the south. Infrastructure plans of making OTR (operational turnaround) facilities in the southern group of islands have started to move. The Boeing P8I [long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft] is being deployed from Port Blair.

At the same time, our cooperation with our neighbours in the east has grown. We have resolved our maritime boundary issues with Bangladesh and there is much greater interaction with Myanmar, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore. It’s no just ‘Look East’, we are also ‘Acting East’ in accordance with the government’s policy.

We are assisting island nations in the IOR (Indian Ocean Region) and neighbours in the East in capability enhancement and are doing coordinated patrols with Myanmar, Thailand and Indonesia.

For full text of the interview, visit http://bit.ly/sunillanbainterview
I hope this guy retires as soon as possible. I just had a look at the Thrust to Weight (at 100% fuel and no weapons payload) of contemporary naval fighters.
Mig29K and F-18 both have a TW ratio of 0.96, which is the same as Tejas mk1 Airforce variant.
Im not sure whats the same for NLCA mk1 , but im pretty sure the NLCA mk2 with GE414 would be atleast the same if not more.

Or it could be false reporting as well.
Look at this paid journalism
Look at the headlines and then watch the video.
 

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It won`t change anything, Unless Government steps in an restore what we lost in past after this Gentleman retires same as what they did in Army ..

The forceful retirement / resignation of Admiral D.K. Joshi. Cut off the chain of candidates for chief of Navel staff, After his resignation the former government put its own chosen candidate Admiral Robin K. Dhowan for Chief of Navel staff who share mutual view and liking of former government, Today we are looking at chain of command after Admiral Robin K. Dhowan who will share same ideas of their preceding commanders ..

These people are slowly changing Navy`s identity, It won`t be long when Navy will be buying basic necessity from abroad under the tag urgent need ..

I hope this guy retires as soon as possible..
 

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It won`t change anything, Unless Government steps in an restore what we lost in past after this Gentleman retires same as what they did in Army ..

The forceful retirement / resignation of Admiral D.K. Joshi. Cut off the chain of candidates for chief of Navel staff, After his resignation the former government put its own chosen candidate Admiral Robin K. Dhowan for Chief of Navel staff who share mutual view and liking of former government, Today we are looking at chain of command after Admiral Robin K. Dhowan who will share same ideas of their preceding commanders ..

These people are slowly changing Navy`s identity, It won`t be long when Navy will be buying basic necessity from abroad under the tag urgent need ..
Kunal I wonder if they ever will revive the project in the imediate future after the ships get inducted. I also am very interested if there is a 2nd IAC-1 std carrier for the wnc?
 

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It won`t change anything, Unless Government steps in an restore what we lost in past after this Gentleman retires same as what they did in Army ..

The forceful retirement / resignation of Admiral D.K. Joshi. Cut off the chain of candidates for chief of Navel staff, After his resignation the former government put its own chosen candidate Admiral Robin K. Dhowan for Chief of Navel staff who share mutual view and liking of former government, Today we are looking at chain of command after Admiral Robin K. Dhowan who will share same ideas of their preceding commanders ..

These people are slowly changing Navy`s identity, It won`t be long when Navy will be buying basic necessity from abroad under the tag urgent need ..
I am surprised to hear that a single officer (notwithstanding the fact that he is CNS) is able to cut off the umbilical cord of such a vital project. Could he have done this alone? I think he has others (subordinates) helping him and agreeing with him. Lets see how many more such projects are sabotaged. If any more DRDO-Navy projects are killed prematurely, we can be certain of the problem being corruption. Until then however, its mere speculation IMHO.
 

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I am surprised to hear that a single officer (notwithstanding the fact that he is CNS) is able to cut off the umbilical cord of such a vital project. Could he have done this alone? I think he has others (subordinates) helping him and agreeing with him. Lets see how many more such projects are sabotaged. If any more DRDO-Navy projects are killed prematurely, we can be certain of the problem being corruption. Until then however, its mere speculation IMHO.
The main reason as to why the the Navy is hesitant on the LCA Navy is that they have some serious vibration issues on landing, and on a carrier that is fatal to the carrier itself, forget the aircraft.
Another reason could be that the IN is tired of being treated as a step child of DRDO when compared to the Army and the IAF.
Nearly all of DRDO's efforts are geared towards the 2 senior services.
 

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These are media speculation at best, The platform in question is a prototype and not a finished product ..

It was always known that MK1 will be flying from Carrier decks along with others, But its something new which are being proposed to dump everything all together including R&D infrastructure, The new Admiral don`t want local industry to come in between imports and him or his successors ..

The main reason as to why the the Navy is hesitant on the LCA Navy is that they have some serious vibration issues on landing, and on a carrier that is fatal to the carrier itself, forget the aircraft.
Another reason could be that the IN is tired of being treated as a step child of DRDO when compared to the Army and the IAF.
Nearly all of DRDO's efforts are geared towards the 2 senior services.
 

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These are media speculation at best, The platform in question is a prototype and not a finished product ..

It was always known that MK1 will be flying from Carrier decks along with others, But its something new which are being proposed to dump everything all together including R&D infrastructure, The new Admiral don`t want local industry to come in between imports and him or his successors ..

With all due respect, Kunal sir, for both infrastructure dump and admiral's personal wish, they are your speculation, or you did know something we don't.
I certainly do not want to see a huge project and effort to end like this. Nevertheless, I have always tend to give credit to fighting people, ie soldier, about that they think they need. Not to mention it will be a big backslash to the potential to export LCA. Truly hope the result will turn to otherwise.
 

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This is completely my view and few other on subject, I hope i am wrong..

With all due respect, Kunal sir, for both infrastructure dump and admiral's personal wish, they are your speculation, or you did know something we don't.
 

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These are media speculation at best, The platform in question is a prototype and not a finished product ..

It was always known that MK1 will be flying from Carrier decks along with others, But its something new which are being proposed to dump everything all together including R&D infrastructure, The new Admiral don`t want local industry to come in between imports and him or his successors ..

Mk1 wasnt the operational variant, the NP3-4 were Mk 2, the operational variant. The ones with newer engine, airframe changes.
 

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