Naval Barak-8 Missiles, Israel, India

[Apollyon]

Is the missile's speed really just Mach 2 ??

If so how can we engage aircraft ?

"Head-On"

 

[Kranthi]

"Head-On"

Not possible,they can turn around and race out of the missile range easily.

 

[Bheeshma]

Turn around at mach 2? How many planes can fly at mach 2 while carrying 1-2 AShM? Even the piddly harpoon or Kh-35's?

 

[Kranthi]

Turn around at mach 2? How many planes can fly at mach 2 while carrying 1-2 AShM? Even the piddly harpoon or Kh-35's?

I don't say that they fly faster than 2 mach with weapon load.
But even with 1.5 they can still make it out of missile range.

Just consider the missile is fired when the aircraft is 30 km away.
by the time the missile reach the 30km (2 mach),the plane can move like 22km (1.5 mach) away from there,and when the missile reach there again,the plane will already be out of its range.

or am i wrong ?

 

[Bheeshma]

No fighter sized plane lugging a couple of AShM will be able to out run a missile. They will hardly fly at Mach 1 carrying a draggy missile under them.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It makes sense to adapt Barak-8 for airborne launch - Ariel View

Barak-8 for airborne launch



There is no official answer to the question, but will Israel Aerospace Industries' (IAI) Barak-8 air defence missile be adapted for launch from airborne platforms?

While IAI sources confirm it is possible, they are not indicating whether such a move is planned.

At this stage, IAI is still completing development of the missile. According to press reports in Asia the first client will be India, which signed a US $2 billion contract that includes maritime and land versions of the missile.

The Barak-8 is equipped with a fully active seeker and does not depend on the launcher for targeting and guidance. Thus, it can perform at much longer ranges, offering effective protection from aerial threats, manned and unmanned, as well as guided weapons.

Covering both low and high altitudes, the missile is designed for operation on board ships as well as for terrestrial applications.

The Barak-8 has also been designed to engage multiple targets simultaneously. The Indian Air Force plans to re-equip nine air defence squadrons with the new missile, each including two batteries comprising a multi-mission radar system performing target acquisition and guidance, a command-and-control element and three container-launchers, each mounting eight missiles.

The missile developed for the Indian defence forces is the MR version, while IAI is offering a longer range version with added boosters.

It is a big question but it makes a lot of sense to adapt the Barak-8 for airborne launch.

It would not be the first time operational missiles have been converted. Rafael used two advanced air-to-air missiles and made them part of the Spyder point defence surface-to-air system.

The trend is clear - take an existing operational missile and use it on another launch platform.

This is not always possible but there is no doubt many of the new missiles developed in Israel have been designed with that option in mind.

 

[ice berg]

No fighter sized plane lugging a couple of AShM will be able to out run a missile. They will hardly fly at Mach 1 carrying a draggy missile under them.

And what fighter will fly within 70 km of a warship again? To drop a bomb?

Most antiship missiles has 200-300 km range. Go figure.

 

[Bheeshma]

Its to shoot the missile jack-ass. It has already been tested with Brahmos.

 

[Armand2REP]

Its to shoot the missile jack-ass. It has already been tested with Brahmos.

Please refrain from name calling even though Chinis are biggest violaters. No reason to stoop to 50 cent level.

What evidence is there of Barak being tested against Brahmos? All I here are unsubstantiated claims.

 

[Bheeshma]

Agree, you will not find open source info on this. so lets not discuss it here. But AA systems are mostly meant against AShM's. It should e well established by now.

 

[Armand2REP]

Agree, you will not find open source info on this. so lets not discuss it here. But AA systems are mostly meant against AShM's. It should e well established by now.

But what class of ASM? There are only two naval SAMs rated against Brahmos class missiles, SM-2 IV and Aster-30.

 

[Bheeshma]

Neither has been tested against an mach 3 brahmos. The Barak 2 apparently was tested and met the requirement. Aster 30 has 100 km range but when has it ever intercepted a mach 3 AShM?

 

[Armand2REP]

Neither has been tested against an mach 3 brahmos. The Barak 2 apparently was tested and met the requirement. Aster 30 has 100 km range but when has it ever intercepted a mach 3 AShM?

Both have been testing against GQM-163 Coyote which is a Brahmos class target drone. Barak 2 was never tested against Brahmos, it would be front page news in defence journals. Aster 30 has 120km range and Brahmos never went Mach 3 but 2.8. Coyote travels at Mach 2.5 which is well within Brahmos normal flight envelop.

 

[Bheeshma]

Thanks. I did not know that. Mach 2.5 is pretty good. Why does your status say chini expert?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Is the missile's speed really just Mach 2 ??

If so how can we engage aircraft ?

Barak 8 is deigned to kill Anti-ships missiles at 70kms, But it can also kill aircraft..

If anything flying beyond 70kms range it cannot be shot-down..

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Aircrafts need time to get speed over mach1 but these missiles archive that speed within second of there launch..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Blackwater]

isn''t the CBI case stalled the procurement of barak 8??????????????????

 

[Kunal Biswas]

No they delayed the purchase of Barak-1

 

[Blackwater]

No they delayed the purchase of Barak-1

r we putting up barak on vikramaditya ??

 

[ash2win]

r we putting up barak on vikramaditya ??

no,it relays on escorting ships air defence.