Naval Barak-8 Missiles, Israel, India

[Gessler]

Barak 8 has a Top speed of around Mach 4, mentioned in a recent report..Broadsword or Livefist i think, dont remember.

Broadsword clearly mentions the 2nd pulse drives it to Mach 5-7.

" About five-to-seven kilometres short of the target, a seeker on the interceptor’s nose switched on, locking it onto the target. To accelerate the interceptor, which was by now merely coasting, the dual-pulse motor fired for a second time. This increased the interceptor’s velocity up to Mach 5-7, enabling it to manoeuvre sharply in tandem with the target’s evasive zigzags. "

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2015/12/lr-sam-operationalised-indian-navy.html

Btw, can you give a source for the mentioned g loading of these SAMs?

Barak-8
" Lateral acceleration is 80 G, length is 4,550mm, diameter is 225mm & weight is 276kg "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/09/moscow-warms-up-to-islamabad.html

Aster-15/30
http://www.interception.gr/app/webroot/contentupload/216articles_pdfs_1interception.pdf
Check Page 4 of the .pdf, it's in Greek, but fairly easy to make it out; copy paste into a translator if you want. Also check left column on Page 5 for an additional mention

SpyDer-SR
" SR-SAMs like the SpyDer-SR, by comparison, can sustain combined G-loads of 76 G "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/08/snapshots-of-combined-pla-armyair-force.html

The info about THAAD is a forum "leaked" info, I cannot produce a viable source for such info. It's unlikely we will ever know for sure about that one.

 

[rohit b3]

Broadsword clearly mentions the 2nd pulse drives it to Mach 5-7.

" About five-to-seven kilometres short of the target, a seeker on the interceptor’s nose switched on, locking it onto the target. To accelerate the interceptor, which was by now merely coasting, the dual-pulse motor fired for a second time. This increased the interceptor’s velocity up to Mach 5-7, enabling it to manoeuvre sharply in tandem with the target’s evasive zigzags. "

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2015/12/lr-sam-operationalised-indian-navy.html



Barak-8
" Lateral acceleration is 80 G, length is 4,550mm, diameter is 225mm & weight is 276kg "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/09/moscow-warms-up-to-islamabad.html

Aster-15/30
http://www.interception.gr/app/webroot/contentupload/216articles_pdfs_1interception.pdf
Check Page 4 of the .pdf, it's in Greek, but fairly easy to make it out; copy paste into a translator if you want. Also check left column on Page 5 for an additional mention

SpyDer-SR
" SR-SAMs like the SpyDer-SR, by comparison, can sustain combined G-loads of 76 G "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/08/snapshots-of-combined-pla-armyair-force.html

The info about THAAD is a forum "leaked" info, I cannot produce a viable source for such info. It's unlikely we will ever know for sure about that one.

Perfect! thanks a lot!

Broadsword clearly mentions the 2nd pulse drives it to Mach 5-7.

" About five-to-seven kilometres short of the target, a seeker on the interceptor’s nose switched on, locking it onto the target. To accelerate the interceptor, which was by now merely coasting, the dual-pulse motor fired for a second time. This increased the interceptor’s velocity up to Mach 5-7, enabling it to manoeuvre sharply in tandem with the target’s evasive zigzags. "

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2015/12/lr-sam-operationalised-indian-navy.html



Barak-8
" Lateral acceleration is 80 G, length is 4,550mm, diameter is 225mm & weight is 276kg "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/09/moscow-warms-up-to-islamabad.html

Aster-15/30
http://www.interception.gr/app/webroot/contentupload/216articles_pdfs_1interception.pdf
Check Page 4 of the .pdf, it's in Greek, but fairly easy to make it out; copy paste into a translator if you want. Also check left column on Page 5 for an additional mention

SpyDer-SR
" SR-SAMs like the SpyDer-SR, by comparison, can sustain combined G-loads of 76 G "
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2012/08/snapshots-of-combined-pla-armyair-force.html

The info about THAAD is a forum "leaked" info, I cannot produce a viable source for such info. It's unlikely we will ever know for sure about that one.

Thanks! However Aster 30 says 50G + 12 G I think? PS - I still cant find the Barak 8 - 80G, can u pinpoint the part in the link?

 

[Gessler]

Thanks! However Aster 30 says 50G + 12 G I think?

12g is the lateral acceleration. Which basically means course-corrections maneuvers etc. (like use of control fins, TVC vanes). This is what determines how well a SAM can hit a highly-maneuverable target.

PS - I still cant find the Barak 8 - 80G, can u pinpoint the part in the link?

It's in the comments section. Try copy pasting the comments into Wordpad and then use Find feature to tag the "80 g" part. Remember to type in 80<space>G otherwise Find won't work.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.naval-technology.com/new...s-long-range-barak-8-from-ins-kolkata-4766800


Indian Navy launches its long-range Barak-8 from INS Kolkata

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[Blackwater]

thanks to DRDO and their hard working engineer , we got barak 8 reliable defense system



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[Gessler]

thanks to DRDO and their hard working engineer , we got barak 8 reliable defense system



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The hell is this supposed to mean?

Why are you angry?
Why are you shouting?
Why are you shouting in RED ?

It doesn't make any sense!



Why is there a Swedish flag here? It doesn't make any sense either!

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Why is there a Swedish flag here? It doesn't make any sense either!

There were few Swedish members here who're now inactive.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Procurement: Israel And India Fight Over Secrets

 

[Flame Thrower]

ln every weapons system, there is always something to cause pain. Why!?

U name it, Aakash, Arihant, Arjun, Barak Sam, Dhruv (as per wiki 17 crash landings and last on feb 2015) Ex Caliber, FGFA(what the hell is stoping GOI to fund it), Insas ( I think it took a decade to ironout all the issues), Kaveri, Nag, Pilatus, Rafale(honestly I don't want it in our AF) Scorpion sub, Tejas, T-90....

One defence deal might delay or take time in induction for some or other reason not everything
Pls add, if I' ve missed something.

Note: Arihant, Dhruv( no accidents from past 15 months) & Tejas are doing good. Because of delays and other reasons, I put them in the above list.


P. S. what we accepted into force are just world beaters or best in Asia(my opinion only)
to name a few Su 30 MKI, Bramhos, Phalcon Awac, Herucles and C-17 cargo planes

Pls add, if I' ve missed something.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...ate-ship-defense-now-validated-land/86716054/

Israel’s 'Ultimate' Ship Defense Now Validated on Land

 

[Indx TechStyle]

India Intensifies Tests of Surface to Air Missile Defense System
The long awaited missile system will significantly enhance the air defense capabilities of India.

New Delhi (Sputnik) — Indian and Israeli scientists are conducting series of tests of their joint venture Medium Range Surface-to-Air Missile (MRSAM) from a defense base in eastern India.

Thousands of persons have been shifted to other areas as a precautionary measure and fishermen have been asked to not to enter the coast of the Bay of Bengal during tests. Government sources told Sputnik that five tests of the Medium Range Surface to Air Missile would be conducted from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur-on-sea.

Indian Minister of Defense Manohar Parrikar said, “MR-SAM can detect incoming enemy aircraft at a distance of 100 km and destroy them at ranges up to 70 km.”

GURINDER OSAN, FILE
India’s Most Advanced Destroyer to be Fitted With Barak 8 and BrahMos Missiles

Sources say that the Indian Air Force will be equipped with 450 missiles while Indian Army could also order land version of MRSAM including 14 firing units. The Indian Army will replace Russian-made Kvadrat and OSA-AKM systems bought in the 70’s and 80’s.

India and Israel signed deal to jointly developed MRSAM in 2009. The first testing of the missile was conducted on June 30 this year.

Defence Research Development Laboratory, a laboratory of the Defence Research Development Organisation, has jointly developed this missile in collaboration with Israel Aerospace Industries at cost of USD 1.514 bln.

Many Indian industries like BEL, L&T, BDL, the Tata group and other private industries have contributed to the development of a number of subsystems which have been put into use in this flight test.

The project is running behind schedule by 3 years and is expected to be inducted in 2017.

 

[republic_roi97]

Successful Flight Tests of LRSAM

Long Range Surface to Air Missile System (LRSAM) for Indian Navy successfully flight tested against Pilotless Target Aircraft (PTA) on 20th Sept 2016 at 10:10 hrs and again at 14:25 hrs from Interim Test Range (ITR) at Balasore, Odisha, yesterday. The LRSAM has been developed through a joint venture between DRDO India and IAI of Israel. The naval version of the SAM system, this time was tested from land and the earlier was flight tested from Naval Ships, at ITR. Both missiles directly hit their respective targets at different ranges and altitudes. The trajectory of the flight of missiles was throughout tracked and monitored by the radars and electro-optical systems installed at ITR.

Many industries viz. BDL, MIDHANI, TATA, GODREJ, SEC, PEL, ADITYA and others have contributed towards the development of Missile systems. Both Israel and Indian scientists and technicians have been involved in the launch campaign. The Israel team was led by Mr. Boyes Levy, Vice President, IAI of Israel, whereas the Indian Team by Mr Patrick D’Silva, Project Director, Mr. MSR Prasad, Director DRDL and Dr. BK Das, Director ITR. Dr. G Satheesh Reddy, DG (MSS) & SA to RM witnessed the launches.

Source :- DRDO facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/DPIDRDO/

 

[Indx TechStyle]

New image of the Indo-Israeli LR-SAM in its launcher. (from @DRDO_India's latest newsletter).
Thanks to LiveFist for getting it.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence​

02-December-2016 14:33 IST​

Surface-to-Air Missiles​

Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LR-SAM) has been jointly developed by DRDO and IAI, Israel to be launched from ship. It possesses high degree of maneuverability at target interception range. LR-SAM has been developed to counter a wide variety of airborne threats, like anti-ship missiles, aircraft, helicopters, UAVs drones and supersonic missiles. Successful trials of Missile have been carried out recently and the weapon systems proven end to end. The deliverable have already been started.

This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Dr. Subhash Bhamre in a written reply to Dr. J Jayavardhan and Kunwar Bharatendra in Lok Sabha today.

DM/NAMPI/RAJ

 

[Vijyes]

Does anyone know if the seeker technology has been transferred by israel to India? If yes, then BARAK-8 is a worth deal. Otherwise, how is it any better than others? Israel will be toast in a war with arabs as it is too small and India will not have seekers in case needed to make more requirements

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

Does anyone know if the seeker technology has been transferred by israel to India? If yes, then BARAK-8 is a worth deal. Otherwise, how is it any better than others? Israel will be toast in a war with arabs as it is too small and India will not have seekers in case needed to make more requirements

Israel will be toast?Really?They will kick combined arab asses and then nuke them for fun.

 

[Vijyes]

Israel will be toast?Really?They will kick combined arab asses and then nuke them for fun.

Number of jews = 70 lakh. Number of jihadis = 55 crores. They have formes jihadi alliance with Raheel Sharif as general to upgrade their combined military. Even turkey has joined & is offering pakistan its 5th gen fighter jets. Pakistan will supply its nuclear warheads to everyone else. Israel will be toast. Even Europe will be hit badly

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

Number of jews = 70 lakh. Number of jihadis = 55 crores. They have formes jihadi alliance with Raheel Sharif as general to upgrade their combined military. Even turkey has joined & is offering pakistan its 5th gen fighter jets. Pakistan will supply its nuclear warheads to everyone else. Israel will be toast. Even Europe will be hit badly

And US and NATO will watch?The Arabs tried to forcibly annex Israel and got their assess handed over to them.Raheel or Jahil can do jack.Which 5th gen fighter Turkey has thats not in control of US?

Israel is going nowhere and if it goes it will take almost every country attacking it with itself.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Any tech turkey has is secure. with USA . USA does not give TOT to NATO allies (only UK)


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[Vijyes]

Any tech turkey has is secure. with USA . USA does not give TOT to NATO allies (only UK)


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Turkey can reverse engineer. Don't underestimate the power of sovereign wealth funds of arabs which are over $ 2 trillion dollars & will definitely fund the development. Just hope that they don't get the technology in time. There is a reason why USA doesn't sell arms to China even without ToT.