N Waziristan warlord bans polio vaccination

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  1. Nagraj

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    N Waziristan warlord bans polio vaccination
    MIRAMSHAH:
    While Pakistan is still struggling to eradicate the crippling polio virus, a top pro-government warlord in the North Waziristan tribal agency has banned vaccinations in the region saying the healthcare drive was a cover for US spies.
    The announcement was made by warlord Hafiz Gul, who has a non-aggression treaty with Pakistani authorities and who, the United States, believes is playing host to the Haqqani network – the deadly Taliban group blamed for most violence in neighbouring Afghanistan.
    “As long as drone strikes are not stopped in Waziristan there will be a ban on administering polio jabs,” Bahadur said in pamphlets distributed in Miramshah.
    The decision was taken by the Higher Council of Mujahideen in consultation with other members, it adds. “No one will have the right to complain about damage in case of any violation.”
    A copy of the pamphlet, titled Mas’ul-o-Khadimul Mujahideen, is available with The Express Tribune.
    It says the people of Waziristan do not require help from the United States which, on the one hand, is spending billions of dollars on eradicating polio, while killing innocent tribesmen on the other hand.
    “Polio infects one child in a million, but hundreds of Waziri women, children and elders have been killed in drone strikes,” it adds and blames Pakistan’s government for being hand in glove with the US.
    The pamphlet cites the case of Shakil Afridi, the doctor who might have helped the CIA find Osama bin Laden through a vaccination drive in Abbottabad, last year.
    “Polio campaigns are also used to spy for America against the Mujahideen, one example of which is Dr Shakil Afridi,” it says. Pakistan is one of the few countries that still harbours the polio virus, including a strain found nowhere else in Asia, but some clerics have condemned the vaccine, putting thousands of people off vaccinating their children
    Electricity before vaccination
    Meanwhile, tribal elders in North Waziristan vowed to continue boycotting polio vaccination drives until the government electrifies the region.
    The boycott was announced at a grand jirga of Asad Khel, Dhur Dhanee, Muskee and Dosalee tribes on Saturday.
    The elders said they have been deprived of electricity for the past 30 years. They accused the local political administration of siphoning off Rs34million set aside for the provision of a new electricity line to the region.
    “We have been without electricity for the last 30 years and the government is ignoring the problem. They have not bothered to look into the matter despite repeated requests and protests. We have no option but to boycott vaccination drives,” an elder of Dhur Dhanee tribe, Malik Mashal Khan, told The Express Tribune, “Our children die of scorching heat and mosquito bites, what difference does it make if they die of polio? We will continue our boycott until the government fulfills our demand,” Khan said. The political administration of North Waziristan told The Express Tribune that it could not take any action against the tribe until a new political agent was appointed.
    (Additional reporting by Zulfiqar Ali in D I Khan)
    N Waziristan warlord bans polio vaccination – The Express Tribune
     
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  3. Nagraj

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    Ok i am not making this sh1t up.
    This a real comment and has been up voted by many people.

    “Polio infects one child in a million, but hundreds of Waziri women, children and elders have been killed in drone strikes,”
    Actually, a very logical argument. American funded aid projects are most often used as cover for spies. Even the Kerry-Lugar act, as admitted by Sen. John Kerry in a recent NPR interview, was used for injecting CIA and JSOC into Pakistan in the form of contractors, aid workers etc. It is no surprise that our liberals also were the most supportive of the Kerry-Lugar act with only the military opposing it as they knew the real intentions behind it.
    Whatever one may feel about Taliban, the liberal obsession with using drones and foreigners to fight what they keep saying is “our war” is contradictory and doomed to failure.

    ok most of the rest of comments do look sane but then most of sane comments it seems are from indians.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Polio vaccination is a western way to make the people impotent.

    Must not get the vaccination!

    Must allow children to grow up and remain deformed and cripple.

    That is the true way of life!

    Never interfere with the way of God, right?
     
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    Polio vaccination banned in South Waziristan – The Express Tribune
    Polio vaccination banned in South Waziristan
    In yet another setback to the polio eradication campaign in the country, the Mullah Nazir group in Wana subdivision of South Waziristan banned polio vaccination in the agency on Monday till the United States halts all drone strikes in the tribal region.
    According to the Taliban pamphlets distributed in Wana, Western powers were running a spy network in the region in the garb of immunisation. The leaflet went on to cite the example of Dr Shakil Afridi, the doctor who helped the CIA hunt down Osama bin Laden by conducting a fake polio vaccination programme in Abbottabad.
    Earlier, warlord Hafiz Gul Bahadur banned the administration of oral polio vaccine to children in North Waziristan, also demanding cessation of US drone attacks.
    The pamphlet went on to compare polio drops to sugar-coated poison, adding that Western powers had never been loyal to Muslims.
    “If they [the United States and its allies] were so sincere with the Muslims, then why did they bomb us so mercilessly,” the pamphlet said.
    The distributed message also gauged US sincerity, questioning why two million children had suffered in Iraq due to the lack of medicines in the 90s, referring to US sanctions on the Saddam Hussein regime.
    Furthermore, the leaflet also discussed the psychological effect drone strikes have had on children in the tribal region.
    “On the one hand, they are killing innocent children in drone strikes, while on the other hand they are saving their lives by vaccinating them … it’s like a wolf in sheep’s clothing,” the pamphlet said.
    The decision to ban polio vaccination was taken by the higher council of North Waziristan Mujahideen, according to the pamphlet, which also warned all polio teams to bring their campaign to a close or accept responsibility for any future mishap.
    A local resident, requesting anonymity, told The Express Tribune, that the pamphlet requested parents to avoid the vaccination of their children till drone strikes continued in Waziristan.
    There has been no official reaction from the political administration or security forces till the filing of this report. (With additional input from Zulfiqar Ali)
     
  6. Nagraj

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    "I agree with the logic.
    I would rather cripple my son than being killed by a drone."
    A troll comment in the comments sections.
     
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    Well, the best way to destroy Pakistan is encourage them to be more Islamic day in and day out. Tell them this is not Islamic enough and there should be nothing invented by west in Pakistan in the name of Islam.

    That will finish the whole country off.. :lol:
     
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    WHO should take this seriously.
    they are trying like anything to get rid of polio from the world, but not getting proper response from Pakistan.

    most of the polio cases world wide are more concentrated in Pakistan.

    Poliomyelitis eradication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    this is in 2011


    The situation in Pakistan is complex. The lowest number of cases reported in one year was 32 in 2007. In the first six months of 2011 there were 69 cases (compared with 37 in the same period in 2010). The remaining focuses lie in three parts of Pakistan: Balochistan Province, Karachi and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.[52] About 25% of children in Karachi are unvaccinated against polio; in Balochistan ~50% are unvaccinated. In contrast in Afghanistan the unvaccinated rate is ~10%. The difficulty in Pakistan appears to be a lack of trust in the health workers trying to vaccinate the children, fueled partly by the CIA using fake vaccination campaigns as a cover to gather DNA samples from Osama Bin Laden's relatives[53].

    in 2012, may be due to good vaccination programme conducted

    As of the 5th of June, the total number of reported cases worldwide stands at 67, compared to 195 at this point in 2011. Pakistan has got a strong decline of cases, 17 compared to 49 at this point in 2011

    one case of undiagnosed non vaccinated case can infect as many as 1000 children. next year if polio again rises its totally a mismanagement of their govt.






    INDIA has successfully became polio non-endemic state :cool2:
     
  9. Mad Indian

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    ^^^ Indians dont fare very great in this regard either. The converage rate of polio is only 67% IIRC. the optimal coverage should be 90% I think:notsure:

    I am not sure how long our polio non-endemicity will lost considering our partial success of the polio vaccination programme.
     
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    Dude could you expand your answer a little!
    right now it all sounds greek to me :p
     
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    The thing is, the vaccine we use is Oral polio vaccine for Polio eradication. It causes both local and systemic immunity. What it means is that the oral polio vaccine we use- which is actually the polio virus itself albiet attenuated to take away its virulence. Hence, when taken orally, the polio vaccine virus causes a local infection of the guts and creates immunity in the gut area itself and also in the blood. This polio is released in our feces as it is shed. This relesed polio, whcih is shed can infect other infants and create immunity in them too.. There is something called as herd immunity. For the OPV to be completely effective in eradicating Polio,. the polio coverage must be 85-90%. The herd immunity must be 80-85% for the eradication of polio. Here go through this:Poliomyelitis eradication - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    What it means in simple terms is that, even if we are able to achieve a oral polio vaccine coverage of 85-90% we can protect the non-immunised children from getting polio

    So the Current Indian Polio vaccine coverage of just 67% is not effective in eradicating Polio. Thats what I said :)

    Also, ever heard of the Pulse Polio vaccination? IT is given to all the children of a community on a particular day, regardless of whether the child is immunised or not previously. The principle is that, the virus in the vaccine, if released at once into the community, which inturn reaches the sewers, it can substitute the wild polio virus, which causes the Polio;). Thereby reducing the chances of polio infection on non-immunised kids

    Funny enough, Polio is transmitted by feco-oral route ;). Hence, it is theroteically possible to prevent polio by providing good sanitation. But we are using Oral polio vaccine by taking advantage of this feco-oral route of transmission, meaning we are taking advantage of the contamination:laugh:

    In western nations, they use Killed Polio vaccines. The Killed polio vaccines are costlier than Oral Polio vaccine, and it does not provide immunity to the community as whole but instead gives immunity to the individual immunised alone.
     
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    Dude Thanks!
    That was awesome!
    Any idea then how we compare to rest of the third world countries???
     
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    Thanks:)

    I dont have the exact stats, but even in South Asia, Srilanka is ahead of us in Health care. You figure out the rest ;)

    But if my info is right, I think we are ahead of the African countries but behind the SEA countries in this regard, But I am not sure:hmm:
     
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    bwahahaha ... yeah why should we waste our resources to wage a war with Pakis when they are hell bent on destroying themselves and pushing back towards 7th century.

    :popcorn:
     

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