Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by bhramos, Jan 15, 2013.
I never knew it before, first time seeing a MX-4 in Indian Service....
sorry if repost...
IDEX 2011 - Beretta wins huge order
Weapons: MP5 Gets Replaced
I guess now ARX160+GLX160 would be the next order...
well waiting for it but ibelieve only rfi has been sent no rfp for now
They have been in BSF service for more than a year or so to replace the WW2 era sterlings
which weapon is the jawan third in line carrying? Looks like X 95. BSF has got a variety of carbines.
Can someone explain to me why give a carbine to BSF instead of assault rifle.
I thought that AK-103 would be best for them how effective is it to patrol border areas with this weapon?
this carbine is to replacegood old british Sterlings carbine...
Kunal: With no Body Armour and tin bucket helmet but with a beratta 9MM auto..
Replace yes but is it effective to patrol borders with such weapon I thought that this might be more useful for policing duties.
correct me if i'm wrong
Courtesy Col. Bhupinder Singh"Tusky",three years from proposal to execution i must say the man has a knack to push things through the MOD fast.
Read more at: ndian Army at the mercy of shadowy arms dealers, lobbyists : The Big Story - India Today
IF they are eating and on top of that giving jawans third rate equipment then this is a bigger sin.
ONLY LOGIC: The Beretta guys must be paying much higher kickbacks than Izhmash so MHA under Chidu compromised BSF's needs to procure defective and little effective submachine guns.
Aman Ki Asha initiative by MHA: In case of retaliating ceasefire violations by Pakistan, the 9mm rounds of BSF's MX 4s will lose their energy during the journey across the border before causing any harm to the Pak side.
Mx4 has a 9mm ammo, its good for close quarter combats but not in the open.
i don't understand why they r ordering it for the BSF, while patrolling the border BSF guys need ARs not a carbine.
even our old INSAS would do a better job than these for BSF..:confused2:
It seems PC made his percents in the fast signing of the contract and delivery. Bastards.
A squad needs to have multiple types of weapons like Submachine guns, rifles, sniper etc...if u check in details the patrol is in typical combination.
what i would have expected or recommend is bullet proof vests and helmets along with good sights for guns and Infra red and night goggles for all patrols...
^^ Add this thing to that list too Guardium UGV G-Nius unmanned ground vehicle in action Israeli Army Israel - YouTube
You are right about the MX4 being a CQB weapon. But there is a requirement for SMGs in every force, the requirement for the BSF handled until recently by the sterlings. Btw The whole force is not going to convert to SMGs en masse. These CQB weapons have a lower recoil, lesser Jamming and hence are far more effective in close engagements. A patrol team of BSF in any part of the country will have a few guys with SMGs beside the ARs, to ensure that in case of close in combat, especially in semi built up areas, they can quickly gain the upper hand. And by the way, the BSF is involved in policing duties at times. Not to mention that every BSF base has guards who are much better off weilding a SMG than a AR which could kill someone 1000m away courtesy stray bullets.
Good find. This apathy to protection runs deep within our mindset. It is likely that he was issued a body armor but decided to take it off, coz it is too heavy and/or hot. I've seen even female CRPF wearing BJs so there is no reason he wouldn't have.
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