Muslims want protection, curbs on Hindu processions

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  1. Raj30

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    Muslims want protection, curbs on Hindu processions - The Hindu

    SP denies accusations of 'witch hunting' of Muslims and 'kangaroo court'. The president of the Jamaat of V.Kalathur demanded that the Muslims be given protection from the 'deliberate' actions of the police.

    The State Minorities Commission was witness to a poignant scene involving the Muslims and the Hindus of V.Kalathur, a village in Perambalur district, on Tuesday. When the commission headed by Bishop M. Prakash had a sitting at the Perambalur collectorate, the president of the Jamaat of V.Kalathur demanded that the Muslims be given protection from the “deliberate” actions of the police. He pointed out that four streets in the village had a predominantly Muslim population and hence all that they wanted was that the Hindu processions avoid these streets.

    “Almost once in 15 days some festival or other is organised by the Hindus and procession is taken through our streets. We are afraid that something untoward against us could take place then.” When there was a complaint, 103 Muslims, including those studying and those about to leave abroad for jobs, were arrested, while it was only three persons on the Hindus’ side who were taken into custody.

    Ramaswamy, speaking on behalf of the Hindus at V.Kalathur, lamented that “Hindus have become minorities at V.Kalathur and our fundamental rights are trampled upon when we are not allowed to take our processions through the routes through which we have been traditionally taking our processions. But for the protection offered by the district administration, we will find it difficult to live in the village and I am in half a mind to get myself converted.”

    Superintendent of Police T.K.Rajasekaran said there had been no problem at all between the two communities living in for ages. It all started only when a section of the Muslim community objected to the Hindus taking out processions through “their streets”. They even moved the High Court. “All that the police did was to ensure smooth movement of the procession without any untoward incidents and we have conducted a number of peace meetings as well.” The police started working out the number of processions taken out per annum and how the religious processions could be avoided through these streets. “But even as the discussions were going on, a marriage procession of Hindus was stopped by the Muslims. Then the police were left with no other option but to arrest 70 Muslims as it apprehended serious unrest.”

    When hardly half a dozen policemen are required for bandobust, why police should seek the presence of an IG, a DIG and two SPs, but for the situation turning grave, he asked. The SP also said that though invitations were sent to Muslims nine times for talks, none responded.

    He dismissed the allegation that the police were indulging in “witch hunting” of Muslims and running a “kangaroo court” (katta panchayat).

    The Muslims said that they were prepared to live in harmony with other communities, but there was an attempt to drive a wedge.
     
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  3. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Modern imperialism, BTW
    1. how Hindus became a minority there?

    2. If they are minority how come their processions are threat to Muslims?

    3. Isn't it against the fundamental rights to stop such processions for imagined fears?

    4. How can Muslims stop marriage procession of Hindus ?

    UP & Bihar are worst places for seculars.
     
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    it is hurtful to see rise of radical elements even in TN too,
    such radical elements whatever the religion they follow will be dealt both judicially and back doors!!
     
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    if the procession is stopped it is shame on our so called secular India.
    Also the title is misleading it should have been Minority Hindus needs projection to carry on with the Processions. Not at all a good for India sign:tsk:
     
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    stupid logic ,so since they are majority they dont want any proecessions but hindus in majority never said we dont want mosque among us citing majority as reason
     
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    We only need tolerant and secular people :namaste:
     
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    this is an example how some law and order problem can be given a communal color in any part of india. though police bias against muslims is now more ostensibly presented in media there should be some mechanism of presenting truth justice and accountability also
     
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    the mistrust between Hindu-Muslim communities is not of this day but to few hundreds of years.
    no offense intended but as a whole Muslim populations where ever in India are more aggressive than Hindus causing the distrust to increase

    that's the reason why in some areas of India Muslims organize Hindu festivals and Hindus organize Muslim festivals to improve religious harmony and trust.
    i had seen in my small village during my childhood Muslims conducting Sri Ramanavami

    these kind of events are rare today even to hear
     
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    but still i'm confident most of TN hindus think of biryani during ramzan than osama at the first sight of a muslim:cool2:

    but few radical elements are popping as well
     
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    Rather odd!

    Unless there is a chance of law and order disruption.

    Even then the call is that of the Police.
     
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    The Hindu is worst paper ,you can even put thread based on .pk sites but with this paper.it has become toilet paper
     
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    Soon Muslims would ask Hindus to vacate India and live elsewhere or convert or get killed.

    Oh wait it happened before.
     
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    what if they attain majority,are they going to ask us to jump into ocean.When their brothers (pak and bangla) are doing such atrocity its our fault to remain secular,hope the word secularism cannot be applied to smaller areas where muslims are majority.Still we say all religions are equal and we are not chinese where there is restriction on religious activities in public place ,but being democratic we cant do anything on this,sad part is how media twisted it
     
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    See post #12.
     
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    It is Duty of Muslims to follow Allahs Orders. In Islam, A Muslim has to keep Kuffar Shirk away from him. It is sinful for a Muslim even to loot at an idol for which he will have to repent on the Judgement Day. Allah will reward him if he will break idols and stop shirk.

    Muslims are following Allahs words only. Islam is a Religion of Peace.
     
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    look* not loot
     
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    Some analysis..

    Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. « Avid Editor's Insights

    “Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

    Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

    When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table.Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2. 7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Isla mic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
     
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    I think in such cases the government has to ask the police to ensure that there is no trouble. They should beef up security and take very stringent action against trouble makers.
    Impartial but very stern action is the only way to prevent a flare up. As we know there will be Wahhabi elements who have moved into Muslim localities to foment trouble.
     
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