Muslims in Uttar Pradesh signal a paradigm shift

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Politicians stuck in feudal ideas of giving away freebies and favours in the form of reservations take note.

     
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    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Mods, pl delete the duplicate thread. Thank you.
     
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    amitkriit Senior Member Senior Member

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    Even the founder of Pakistan Jinnah wanted his community to get out of the grips of the mullahs and extremists. Muslim society is changing and it is changing for good It is so heartening to know that all Indians are following the same dreams of a developed and prosperous India. No elite or politician can exploit us for their personal interest.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    This article was written before the election results. The results showed that the party that promised the largest quota chunk for the Muslims eventually won - SP. So one has to say that the analysis was incorrect.
     
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    amitkriit Senior Member Senior Member

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    I noticed that the article has disappeared.
     
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    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    dont you think after 10-15 next pakistan will be created by our leaders

    hwy so special treatment for them while skih,crshitan, etc minorities are here
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    A telling commentary!
     
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    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Hmmm.. so it has.




    coz they form a luscious big votebank to be bribed with sops like reservations...:p
     
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  10. BangersAndMash

    BangersAndMash Regular Member

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    Maybe the people of India should not listen to such a$$hole leaders and try and learn from the Indian Army.....
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    Secularism in the Army

    As a former Army 0fficer, I never stop marveling at the gullibility of our
    countrymen to be provoked with alacrity into virulence in the name of
    religion and regionalism. I have never heard the word ’secular’ during all
    my service — and yet, the simple things that are done simply in the army
    make it appear like an island of sanity in a sea of hatred.


    In the Army, each 0fficer identifies with the religion of his troops. In
    regiments where the soldiers are from more than one religion, the officers
    – and indeed all jawans attend the weekly religious prayers of all the
    faiths. In earlier days how many times have I trooped out of the battalion
    mandir and, having worn my shoes, entered the battalion church or, taking
    them off again, entered the Gurudwara next door? A few years ago it all
    became simpler — Mandirs, Masjids, Gurudwars and Churches began to share
    premises all over the army, and named Dharamsthan or Sarvadharamsthal. It
    saved us the walk.


    Perhaps it is so because the Army genuinely believes in two central ‘truths’
    – oneness of God and victory in operations. Both are so sacred we cannot
    nitpick and question the basics.


    In fact, sometimes the army mixes up the two! 0n a visit to the holy cave at
    Amarnath a few years ago I saw a plaque mounted on the side of the hill by a
    battalion that had once guarded the annual Yatra. It said, ‘Best wishes from
    -….- battalion. Deployed for Operation Amarnath.


    On another instance, I remember a Commanding 0fficer ordered the battalion
    Maulaviji to conduct the proceedings of Janamashtmi prayers because the
    panditji had to proceed on leave on compassionate grounds. No eyebrows were
    raised. It was the most rousing and best-prepared sermon on Lord Krishna I
    have ever had the pleasure of listening to.


    On the Line of Control, a company of Khemkhani Muslim soldiers replaced a
    Dogra battalion. Over the next few days, the post was shelled heavily by
    Pakistanis, and there were a few non-fatal casualties. 0ne day, the junior
    commissioned officer of the company, Subedar Sarwar Khan walked up to the
    company commander Major Sharma and said, “Sahib, ever since the Dogras left,
    the mandir has been shut. Why don’t you open it once every evening and do
    aarti? Why are we displeasing the Gods?”


    Major Sharma shamefacedly confessed he did not know all the words of the
    aarti. Subedar Sarwar went away and that night, huddled over the radio set
    under a weak lantern light, painstakingly took down the words of the aarti
    from the post of another battalion!


    How many of us know that along the entire border with Pakistan, our troops
    abstain from alcohol and non-vegetarian food on all Thursdays? The reason:
    It is called the Peer day — essentially a day of religious significance for
    the Muslims.


    In 1984, after Operation Bluestar there was anguish in the Sikh community
    over the desecration of the holiest of their shrines. Some of this anger and
    hurt was visible in the Army too.


    I remember the first Sikh festival days after the event — the number of
    army personnel of every religious denomination that thronged the regimental
    Gurudwara of the nearest Sikh battalion was the largest I had seen. I
    distinctly remember each officer and soldier who put his forehead to the
    ground to pay obeisance appeared to linger just a wee bit longer than usual.
    Was I imagining this? I do not think so. There was that empathy and caring
    implicit in the quality of the gesture that appeared to say, “You are hurt
    and we all understand.”


    We were deployed on the Line of Control those days. Soon after the news of
    disaffection among a small section of Sikh troops was broadcast on the BBC,
    Pakistani troops deployed opposite the Sikh battalion yelled across to
    express their ’solidarity’ with the Sikhs.


    The Sikh havildar shouted back that the Pakistanis had better not harbour
    any wrong notions. “If you dare move towards this post, we will mow you
    down.”


    Finally, a real — and true — gem….

    Two boys of a Sikh regiment battalion were overheard discussing this a day
    before Christmas.

    “Why are we having a holiday tomorrow?” asked Sepoy Singh.

    “It is Christmas,” replied the wiser Naik Singh.

    “But what is Christmas?”

    “Christmas,” replied Naik Singh, with his eyes half shut in reverence and
    hands in a spontaneous prayer-clasp, “is the Guruparb of the Christians.” !!

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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    :hail: the army.

    If only the whole India was like that?:tsk::tsk:
     
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    An important point in the B.J.P.'s view is that the MUSLIM VOTE BANK has increased for them and more MUSLIMS have voted or contributed for the seats won by B.J.P. in Uttar Pradesh this time.........
     
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    Sorry mate, this is not true. Muslims have voted for SP in large percent and thats the reason SP got 200+ seats. BJP won in places where they had consolidated Hindu vote, not because of Muslim vote. Even now only a very few percent of Muslims vote for BJP.
     

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