Muslims being disempowered – ‘secular’ parties to blame: Owassi

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  1. Ray

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    Asaduddin raises some interesting point to mull over.

    Are the Muslims really being disempowered?

    If empowering is gauged by the index of MPs in the Parliament, then it appears that it is right since there has been a downslide in the number of Muslims in the Parliament.

    To be fair, the over emphasis that secularism means sops for the Muslims alone and not the others, to include the other minorities and also the majority, has led to the backlash.

    The overused and hackneyed slogan 'secularism' no longer finds purchase and it is Modi and not BJP that has weaned away the voters because of his charisma, and the development platform, as also India was tired of wimpish leaders, scams and an other over hyped and over worn saviour of India - the Nehru Gandhi dynasty.

    Therefore, indeed the 'secular' parties have let, not only the Muslims down, but have let all Indians down.

    As far of Bukhari is concerned, he is only a Imam with a massive and larger than life touch of megalomania.
     
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    Rumour has it that MIM and BJP are fact chaddi buddies. I heard from a reliable source that during Maharashtra election campaign Nitin Gadkari and Owaisi where seen traveling together.
     
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    Nice interview !
     
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    anupamsurey Regular Member

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    looks like the same double faced muslim liar, he and his brother are what we call ...educated terrorists, and mind my words only muslims vote for people like him...not any other progressive community.
     
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    Even though this guy uses inflammatory language to win elections, I have seen him reacting to foreigners in a sane manner when asked about the condition of Muslims in India. Asaduddin Owaisi is doing the right wing a great favour by exposing the "secular" political parties.
     
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    Disempowered? Yes of course. The recent political developments have burst the myth of muslim veto.
     
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    So threatening to massacre Hindus in Hyderabad if police were removed for 24 hours is secular.....
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    He or his MIM was never secular.
     
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    Indian Society as whole must be based on Equality

    this type of news are more meant to take action against those who say like this....

    and the ideal statement would be, "is there something, laws or any action by the current government, which affect any community of India, including Muslims?"

    i mean, empowering Hindu, Muslims, Buddhist, Christians etc in a developing country like India has no sense where we don't have enough resources. a leader may only make noise if any community is discriminated because of any law/action by the government. for example, if Muslims demands reservations because of being Muslims, then why not for Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Jainism etc too? and here, why to punish only Hindus this way, which are around 80% of total population?

    we want Indian society to be based on "equality", not empowering one community because you want to put other minorities on the weak side. we want India to be based on equality, without favoring or discriminating other religious communities because they aren't Muslims?

    a leader may open mouth only if any law/action by the government discriminate Muslims against rest of the religious communities. and the actions needed to bring "equality" :thumb:
     
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    Creating a party called the All India Union of Muslims, he wants people to believe he is secular!!!

     
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    Firstly, he cannot even protect himself from Raja Singh and Muhammad Pehlwan who thrash and trash his brother on the streets of Hyderabad!

    Secondly, we all know when police is taken away who gets thrashed - when the Riots run for more than 2-3 days!

    Finally, these Owaisis are Razakars who worked for the Nizam as henchmen, the concept is same as we had seen during 1971 war Islamic Razakars and Jamait-e-islami members raped and looted Hindus and other Bengalis, but we know what happened to theses islaimics in the end!

    These morons know that India is a secular nation (pun intended), hence they can get away with everything, would India had been a Hindu nation, leave uttering usual islamic nonsense, these guys would have prefered Hijrah!
     
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    Has he claimed so?

    His attitude is hardly secular.
     
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    Good.
    Better late than never.Finally after 67yrs Independence Hindus are united for just once,these SICKular owaISIS started whining.

    How much u love DOG,it must be tied.If it is gone mad it must be put to rest.I hope present generation recognized these are not pieceful dogs,like sickular parties projecting but mad dogs. :namaste:
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Maybe true. ASfter an airbus carries about 300 passengers.
     
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    Im interested to discuss this topic. further to my post#9, we find India's having reservation based on Caste, for SC, ST, OBC etc. and here we find all the religious groups of India sharing the caste list as below. we have around 27% reservation for OBC category, out of total 50% we may have in jobs/exams. here we have something in this regard as below:

    Other Backward Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    => from here, we find some of the states offering reservations for minorities based on religion, like in Maharastra as below. how is it allowed if its against the constitution itself? the Indian constitution which doesn't allow reservation based on religion?

    Maharashtra approves 5% reservation for Muslims in government jobs, education | ummid.com


    => we would need reservation based on "Income Group", i sincerely believe. these attempts to divide the Indian society as whole must be resisted with all efforts. as, if you offer a benefit to any minority based on religion, why not others also demand the same. while its against the constitution itself? :ranger:
     
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    Absolutely, the name of the party All India Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen translates to All India Council of the Union of Muslims.

    All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
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    there is a word, "Laws Enforcement", and this is what the Indian government and its establishments have to understand.

    its very easy to destroy a building, for example, but it takes a long to build it again. we must maintain "equality" in Indian Society as whole, at any price, as failure to do so will bring much higher price, indeed :india:
     
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    @sydsnyper

    MIM may mean All India Council of the Union of Muslims, but then the greatest fallacy about the sterling and scintillating leaders of Muslims psyche is that each one thinks he is the sole Leader of Muslim and the Sole Champion of Islam.

    Do you think Bukhari takes Owassi as the Leader of Muslims? I know for sure, Owassi has rubbished Bukhari's contention that Bukhari is.

    And the other leading figures like Farooqui is dead worried that all this anti Indian sentiments displayed by champions of themselves, in the guise of champions of Muslim and Indians, are causing a serious problem and a scare amongst the Muslims, more so since there is a BJP landslide taking grip of the country.

    As I see it, it is time for Muslims to dissolve their so called demands to be treated with kid gloves and given specialised attention, into a pan Indian outlook.

    Sooner they do so, it will be for the betterment of the Muslims.

    I am yet to hear of other minorities clamouring for special attention or being given any.

    Thereby they are not targeted so long as the odd fishes amongst them do not aggressively evangelise. Conversion out of free will is perfectly fine, but through means foul it is not, be it from any religious denomination including Hindu.
     
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    Right @ray. If muslims keep on "fighting" for "first claim" BS of MMS, they will remain a target.
     
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