"Muslim" Think Tank To PAF: Get UCAVs To Counter IAF Strength,Quotes Koran To Support

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  1. neo29

    neo29 Senior Member Senior Member

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    A Kuala Lumpur-based institute Grande Strategy (no kidding), which describes itself as a "Muslim think-tank providing strategy and analysis from an Islamic perspective" has published an online "strategy paper" today (by a defence analyst called Meinhaj Hussein) suggests UCAVs as a "possible solution in countering India's military aviation threat to Pakistan." The paper recommends that the PAF develop this proposed UCAV in the same way that it developed the JF-17. It even quotes from the Koran to pitch UCAVs as the assymetric answer to India's fifth generation push.

    After a rather droning (no pun intended) primer on the advantages/disadvantages of UCAVs, the paper goes on to recommend that UCAVs in Pakistani service are the only platforms that will be able to counter the "larger number of fifth generation fighters" India will have by 2025.

    Some excerpts:

    * India will begin to field PAKFA fighter jets from Russia and may also develop her own from technology bought from the Russians. While the latter may be discounted as another employment opportunity for DRDO and related third-rate Indian bureaucracies, PAKFA and any specific design built for India by the Russians will provide a challenge that would be wholly new to the subcontinent: a 5th generation fighter. Further, it may not be farfetched to imagine a JSF purchase for the IAF, given the blossoming long-term partnership developing between India and the United States. While the credentials for the JSF are still unclear and the jury may be out on its air-to-air combat capabilities, the PAKFA is a clear threat. The PAKFA was designed to counter the F-22 in air combat. The threat is perhaps best defined as reasonable stealth, super cruise, high altitude and high speed. The PAKFA takes BVR combat to a new level that the airframe of the JF-17, by design, cannot compete with. BVR missiles launched from a high-high profile aids missile range and speed, and reduces the threat, range and effectiveness of Pakistani BVR launches in response. With AWACs and refuelers in the sky, such threats would be a menace, particularly with longer ranged BVR missiles from Russia. By 2025, India could field PAKFAs and perhaps even JSFs in the hundreds, drastically changing the military balance in the Subcontinent. Pakistan can either go bankrupt attempting to counter this new threat or she can become obsolete, back to a decade similar to the 1990s. Or Pakistan can develop UCAVs.

    * The general approach has been to counter India's provocative procurements on a largely symmetric basis. Increasing number of manned fighter jets have been reciprocated by increases in Pakistan's inventory of manned jets. Purchase of AEW assets have been matched by an equivalent purchase. Nuclear tests were responded to with equivalent nuclear tests as were ballistic missile tests. However, this asymmetry is increasingly impractical because of differing size and economic development between the two countries.Meanwhile, India is now slated to acquire a large number of 5th generation planes in a 50-50 partnership with the Russians. Instead of attempting to break the bank and procure increasingly complex (and expensive) 5th generation fighters with the added exponential increase in maintenance and other operational costs, a solution may be to respond asymmetrically. Evidence of responding with positive asymmetry can perhaps be found in the Quran: The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better. Al Quran, 41:33


    The rest is pretty much a suggestion that Pakistan look about acquiring the X-47 Pegasus. Hoo boy.

    http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/12/muslim-think-tank-to-paf-get-ucavs-to.html
     
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  3. anoop_mig25

    anoop_mig25 Senior Member Senior Member

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    seriously why bring holy Koran into it . just mention of indian name isself enoughf for pak establishment to buy various defence equipment . seriously some people are nuts why bring god in fight between humane begin :angry_6::angry_10::angry_10:and what does this men think pak defence establishment doesnt have people with brains or he wants employment with them
     
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    Because it will be their Islamic plane all in green like their Islamic nuclear bomb. they can fleece blood of other Muslim countries in the name of Islam.
     
  5. Pandora

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    [​IMG] they mean PAF SHOULD BUY THIS.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Deserves to be in the jokes section.
     
  7. Soham

    Soham DFI TEAM Senior Member

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    It is sad when those flaunting the banner of Islam don't know two hoots about the Koranic interpretations. This particular verse is actually about reconciliation between enemies, where the stress is upon good deeds to resolve hostilities, instead of resorting to evil.

    Jackasses.

    And seriously ? They never needed so many Koranic justifications every time they've bought a particular weapon system. Sudden wish to turn holy.
     
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    Seriously, if Pakistan was not obsessed with religion, then there is chance that there may be a reconciliation between India and Pakistan. Hence, religion plays a primary role in the relationship of India and Pakistan. As long as India is not 100% sunni, Pakistan will continue to be against India(not just the leadership or army but the people at large). Thus, devoid of religion, there is no conflict left.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    Honestly! It is like every alley-walking fool these days is able to become a "defence institute" these days and hence gives bad name to the wonderful profession. Do these self-appointed analyst idiots even know what "PAF developed? JF-17? That's a Chinese work painted and maintained in PAC hangars. And do these "analysts" even know what is the budgetary capacity of Pakistan at the moment? Forget UcAV they cannot even make a car of their own right now. :emot100:

    Do these clowns ever recognize India's own efforts? Hello!! AMCA? And erm... just FTI, we have already gone beyond the level in which they can match any time. Yeah... UCAVs just drop out of the space in a golden platter do they?


    How exactly are drones going to be able to fight off manned fighters esp at todays' tech levels? Reapers and Predators have successes against ground targets while they would be sitting ducks when facing a manned, super-maneuverable, stealthy and heavily armed with AAMs fighter jet. If Pakistani establishment has any sense to not take such words seriously, it would be smart enough to understand that listening to such pathetic and third rate piece of advise would expedite their extinction and bankruptcy. Hope sense prevails with Kayani.:emot15:
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    This is one thing that shocks me though; since when did Malays get into thinking crap like this?m:emot4:
     

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