Moscow-Islamabad partnership not against Delhi

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    Moscow-Islamabad partnership not against Delhi

    The military cooperation between Russia and Pakistan is not directed against India, it will strengthen capabilities of the SCO. From the military-technical point of view, for Pakistan, it is more profitable to shift to China and Russia than to cooperate with the United States.


    Russian experts comment in this manner, results of the visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to Pakistan.

    This is the first time in 45 years that a Head of the Russian Defense Ministry has visited this country. He arrived in Islamabad from China - one of the major military and political allies of Pakistan. And in Beijing and Islamabad, Sergei Shoigu was negotiating for the sale of weapons. In meetings with his Pakistani counterpart, Asif Khawaja, the subject was the sale of a batch of Mi-35 helicopters. Pakistan had initiated negotiations for this deal. With the help of these helicopters, the country is planning to confront terrorists and drug traffickers. The Pakistani military is also interested in the purchase of short-range and medium-range air defence systems, long-range guided missiles and multiple launch rocket systems.

    Pakistan is beginning to shift from a solely pro-American orientation to a Chinese and Russian one, considers Konstantin Sivkov, military expert and vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems:

    “Technology offered by Russia and China to Pakistan, is beneficial because American technology is completely incompatible with the one that comes from China. In comparison, the Chinese military equipment is largely identical to the Russian, as it is manufactured on the basis of Russian and Soviet designs. Therefore, for Pakistan, it is more profitable to shift towards Russia rather than support military-technical cooperation with the United States. Especially, when compared, American weapons are much more expensive than the Russian in general. And the effectiveness of Russian weapons is in no way inferior to the American”.

    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, in a meeting with Sergei Shoigu, expressed his satisfaction with the resumption of cooperation with Russia and called signing of the military cooperation agreement as “epoch-making”. Military and political rapprochement between Moscow and Islamabad has generated a lot of speculation about its impact on relations between Russia and India. Igor Korotchenko, Director of the Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade warns against attempts to push Pakistan and India against each other:

    “Relations between Russia with Pakistan are in no way a counterweight to relations with India. India remains a major strategic partner of Russia in the military and especially in the military-technical sphere. With regards to possible Russian arms supplies to Pakistan, in the first place, it is the Mi35 helicopter, which does not violate the existing balance of power in the region. It is not directed against India, which has a significant military capability. I think that Delhi understands the need to expand the number of participants in a dialogue on security issues between Russia and other countries of the region”.

    A reducing of the US military presence in Afghanistan poses new risks to the leadership of Pakistan. These are associated with the capability of activation of the Taliban in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. It is exactly the scenario that has been predicted by expert at the Russian Institute of Strategic Studies, Azhdar Kurtov. Therefore, he considers that Pakistan is on a look-out for reliable partners:

    “One of those partners may be our country. Pakistan has long been an observer in the SCO. And Pakistan and India are the two countries, which are scheduled to join the SCO as permanent members next year. Thus, expansion of security cooperation between Russia and Pakistan, and this is the purpose of the SCO, is understandable. Pakistan can and must play its role in strengthening of the security situation in the region. And since Russia wants to strengthen its role in the East, in South Asia, it also needs partners in the region, partners, which it can and should assist in the fight against terrorism and security”.

    In course of his visit, Sergei Shoigu was handed over an invitation extended to Russian President Vladimir Putin to visit Pakistan. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has expressed hope that the invitation will be accepted.

    PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MOSCOW AND ISLAMABAD NOT DIRECTED AGAINST DELHI - News - Politics - Russian Radio
     
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    PRC + Pakistan + Russia = Russia + PRC 2014
     
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    The S-300 as I reported months ago. :)
     
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    Russia is not offering anyone S-400 iirc.

    China already manufactures a copy of S-300.
     
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    why not go for HQ9 instead? Even Turkey had made a decision to purchase it.
     
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    Chinese version of S-300 has some flaws. We have looked into it already.
     
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    That is one of the options indeed.
     
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    Dude, so now onwards every Chinese product has those flaws, yeah?
     
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    any idea.. if Kayani or pakistan has evaluated HQ9 in the past?

    also if there any other workable system that Pakistan is looking to purchase from Russia?
     
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    Options are there but can't say about hard cash.
     
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    Russia will sell s-300 or s-400 to pak...if any one thinks tht thn its gud fr tht guy to be in a dreamland & as far as chinese wepons r concernd...#purecopy
    Mod : First warning. Please don't use SMS language at a Defence forum.
    Not only a violation of rules, it makes your post look unintelligible and childish.
     
  15. Neo

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    Chinese admit that reverse engineering the S-300 wasn't fully succesful. This is no secret.
     
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    Afaik the S-300 and HQ-9 were both evaluated and the latter likely to be ordered soon if Russia rejects the S-300.

    We are also loking for JV with both Russia and China to develop nieuw missiles and to improve existing missile arsenal.
     
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    Cash is never a problem for our defence requirements.
    Our military budget stands at $11 billion and its rising.
     
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    Nt only tht..bt if u closly luk at d j-31..its a copy of f-35..n moreover hv u read reports of #zhuhai airshow abt j-31..u will be shocked
     
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    @Neo
    Seriously, I think you pull up these figures from you know where!!

    Pakistan annual budget

    Budget
    $6.98 billion (2013–14) (ranked 25th)

    Of this 6.98 Billion you are spending 11 Billion for defence...
    Nice math!!!

    Hey did Zaid Hamid (Topi Be Upon Him) make the budget for Pakistan!!!

    and in other news

    Pakistan is expanding its defense budget by 11 percent to $7 billion in FY2014-2015.
    Still short of 4 Billion to reach your figure of 11 Billion.
     
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    Hahaha..dnt mess wid #zaid he will ruthlessly block u on twitter u banniya...ROFL..
     
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    Wat ! Working in jv with russians..well well ...cn u give me d link...
     

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