Modi's Pakistan and Kashmir's Policy a total Failure

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I'am not sure by punishing pakistan you can get the objective. it has been getting punished for long time from past thirty years. for them soldiers are expendable. you can do 2000 surgical strikes or whatever kind of strikes and you want you will still see the more and more violence. what you describing is just of tactical in nature and not strategic. they have lot of support in the valley itself let alone outside.
Pokis target Innocent civilians in India we will target their civilians in turn and make the war expensive for them .

Why did their DGMO call us and beg us for a ceasefire, in reality they have cowards running their army who rely solely rely on hit or run tactics. This is the first time in recent history that poki army wants talks.2000 surgical strikes is way over kill ,I think few may be 20 surgical strike to take out the likes of hafeez saeed and others (refer to list below) will sends shivers across the Porkis establishment.However our aggressive maneuvers are best left to the army.Also the army has had a huge role to play in the recent surgical strikes unlike in the MMS era where a disgusting policy of strategic restraint when being terrorized being was adopted .Let another 26/11 happen in India when Modi is in power and their will be no Pakistan. At least modi stopped this policy of handing out useless dossiers and strategic restraint. Give him credit where due.

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I believe that a Trp Pm is better than a Oxford educated Italian controlled robot
To those that say that modi is all.
Gas and no action please look at your esteemed history books they reeks of 100 % pure unadulterated Congress propaganda .
I think that one of the problem is that modi is not"educated enough" and reeks of Barath and not of India for the Delhi establishment and by continuation for the uber secular section of the media leftist centerist proposition that still dominate lutyanes Delhi so people like an esteemed member in this forum will always nit pick this "chiawala" but as I said for me and many like me that tea seller is better than an educated robot controlled by an Italian idiot
 

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At least not same thing, developmental track record, if BJP will br called backwards, Congress was developing in reverse direction.
After the freedom in 60s when we had only 52% of GDP per capita of Pakistan and way lower HDI but even then, sustained way slower growth.

LOL, comparing BJP to them?
Look at the track record of Congress. Nehru didn't only sacrificed national interests for his personal glory but from doctoring history to hiding biggest ever scams in history. Defying the contribution of all freedom fighters and putting the turban alone on Gandhi's head and stumbling economy in s socialism for decades.

Honestly say, if Nehru was shooted in 1950, India would have been a much better to live, at least 20 years ahead of today.

Yes, it is cuz muzzies are slain like animals now. More assertive government is, more frustrated insurgents will.

:bplease::bplease:
You were surely in hibernation in MMS times.

That's the spirit! Good for me as well.
I don't wanna see you in Indua.

Less terrorists alive is pretty meaningless and retaliation by them is too pretty obvious.
Difference is that they used kill us and we never retaliated in MMS time but did in NaMo's time.
Problem with you is that you say let'em kill us and don't respond if any sort of damage is there on our side.
Your response is too pretty likely cuz you aren't in India and it's us who actually have to face. Besides 9/11, less than 1,000 people has died in terror attacks in last 100 years in USA.

No scam occurred.

India became the first non NPT country to sign nuclear deal with Japan.
Again, Congress used to lean to communist states so China didn't object. Same is not with BJP.
[And please calling it MMS government again and again. Sonia Gandhi was the actual controller, not Singh and everybody is aware of this fact. Congress has always driven India like a pricely state ruled by Gandhi Dynasty. If UPA PM really had the power to drive the country, we won't be seeing pathetic days.]

AFAIK, it's Congress who has driven India on Socialism and so backwardness and low living standards.
It's INC whose propaganda we used read in our S.St. books where "Chacha Nehru" was the ultimate lord and Sardar Patel occupied a little space.

Ritualistic Society by BJP? Look at the growth pace of BJP driven vs Congress driven states.

Exceptional status can be withdrawn any time.
Thanks to Congress that India is yet to become a permanent member of NSG. Dismissed nuclear tests in 60s when we could do it before CTBT and become a permanent member UNSC as well as NSG.

Not chest but the arms given by CPI, CPM and finally most loved INC to their communist masters.

Coming coming coming, even Modi went to Pakistan. Actions decide what's country's stance, not visit.
Again, India is largest investor in Britain and scores high surplus with America.
Nor a free trade agreement with Pakistan can help UK and US as much as India can do.

You are like those moron pakis. Trump's one phone call, and Asia pivot has shifted.:pound:

But when actual show will begin, you all will become offline for months and sometimes even forever.


Okay, sit study and let'em kill just cuz our retaliation will bear further attacks?
Sit in USA and drink expresso.:dude:

Reminds the legacies of some Congress PM's. Doesn't it?
The worst thing congress did in MM time is to derail economy by crook chidambaram. It is a horrible story which will make you crash your head on wall.
 

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when a big chunk of population thinks this way the international community cannot put a terror tag on them, it becomes a main course talk. India has not been able to declare pak as terror nation despite these attacks, tells you something about the currency of the arguments that pakistan holds in the international community.
The big chunk of population went against Bangalis in East pakistan and here they are after 40 years.

The Funda is you do psywar and then you hit.
In any case you have to hit. Because, Pakistan is that country which will suppress all movement through force. And you cannot just sit and watch.
 

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You all need to review history as without reading history from genuine sources you will not understand the dynamics of India-Paki conflict.

Paki had envy of India..a much bigger and stronger nation. So, due to its low self esteem and India envy, it went and entered the western a*ss. West loved this whore attitude and started paying her in aid money and free weapons so this whore nation can be used against Soviet Union.(1960s-70s)

US supplied high teach weapons, Saudi supplied tons of money and Paki army trained MUJAHIDEENS (terrorists) to fights Soviets. Thousands of MADrasas (crazy Islamic schools) were funded by Saudi to create terrorists out of young Paki and Afghani childrens. Osam Bin Laden was one of these Mujahideens.(1980s -1990s)

Once Soviets were defeated, Paki military wanted to keep these terrorists and called them "strategic assets" to keep India under pressure West knew that Paki is like a whore who can be used as long as you throw dollars at her. The policy of west is still not fully changed...there is still a faint hope that this old whore can be used against India, China or Russia ....so West is having hard time to detach from Paki. After all, this old whore gave lot of pleasure in good old days. (proof: Only 3 days ago, US gave 900 million dollars to Paki) (1990 until today)

On the other hand, China is trying to become Paki whore's brand new customer ..as Whore is useful..it does not mind getting its soldiers killed to serve its masters. Well, whore is in demand by two major powers right now.(2000-2016)

As for Indian politicians, they have been timid ...almost cowards.. in dealing with Paki.....only exception to this, are two Indian leaders...first P.M. Mrs. Indira Gandhi and two, P M Modi.

Its so easy to fool Indians...chant Gandhi..Gandhi ..Gandhi...and they will go in impractical LA LA land and can not see the reality that if a terrorist slaps you in left cheek and you turn other cheek..he is going to slap again in your right cheek. You need to not slap the terrorist...you need to give a strong kick in his balls..

Modi and BJP people are the last hope for India...because they are realistic and courageous ...and honest patriots. Paki is the only enemy nation..hit them in their balls...economically, diplomatically, militarily and informationally thru media. Enemy has to be beaten so hard until it becomes friendly or gets destroyed.
 

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Here is the thing. The power in Pakistan is controlled by 56 families in Punjab. Now, some of them have had ties with Indian elites in Delhi. That is the real cause of confusion in Indian Policy.

Modi is a reason to change all this. He is not a delhi politician. And signs are quite clear. In the end, Pakistan will not be a Iraq war, but a Soviet style operation. Economics will finish them. They have china to support them, but, if china gets busy , screws will tighten.

It is a long drawn war. But, finally there is a focussed policy. First the artificial detente. While, progress in defense happened. LCA is now in progress for airforce. Obviously vested interests will fight back. Hence, the NLCA statements. But, longer run,the system is in place. All the MMS era peaceniks are slowly becoming irrelevant. Post-2019, their non-political presence will reduce.

See, since, congress was in power, an effort was made by inimical agencies to create assets inside their ecosystem. That is why, foreign govts had a reason to hate BJP. Since, Modi was from outside that system. But, now, reality has set in. Congress is politically getting finished. Their only hope in next 5 years is next March i.e Punjab. So, slowly the JNU style voices will die.

A little patience. We will be ok by 2020.

I feel sorry to say this. But, if we want a better India, we need to support the ruling party. intermediate blunders have to be forgiven.

If someone here is actually badmouthing people with insults and namecalling etc. That is a sign of desperation. People who understand geopolitics dont talk like this.
 

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In todays world, over riding factor is economic...

get the facts...India- China trade in 2015...over 80 Billion dollars a year, Potential to grow to 300 billion dollars with India..by 2022.
Paki-China trade in 2015..less than 15 billion dollars.

India -Russia trade in 2015..over 13 billion diollars (excluding defense deals)
Paki -Russia trade in 2015..less than 1 billion dollars..

Follow the money....people put money where there mouth is......talk is cheap.
 
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We need to keep punishing Pakistan. India never used her full conventional superiority against Pakistan. We can deploy dozens of 155mm Howitzers, MLRS, can launch battalion level tactical strikes. We are not doing so. We are not punishing Pakistan enough. Start with capturing LoC border posts, send para commandos to ambush Pakistani convoys, open massive artillery barrage under guidance of artillery locating radar, start unprovoked firing in their Punjab, start hostility in Siachen, conduct aggressive IAF patrolling and often intrude into Pakistani territory and shoot Pakstan aircraft down.

See War of Attrition Between Israel and Arab countries.
Why don't we stop them without firing a bullet. We simply throw out the Indus water treaty . Why share waters with your enemies? Modi has the best policy I have ever seen from any Indian pm.


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Agree. Water, economic choking, diplomatic assault, media war, surgical strikes and proxy war (Paki favorite)
Everything should be on table....Let Pakis realize that India knows how to deal with terrorism sponsors...our previous govt's timidity have emboldened Paki sponsors of terrorism.
Everything is fair in love and war.....AND...this is war between great nation of India and bloody terrorists.
 

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Mr. Modi or BJP can not teach weapons use, maintaining security or military manoeuvres to professional soldiers. Unlike previous GOI ample efforts are made by this GOV to augment IA abilities in multiple ways. Lackadaisical attitude may be responsible for some casualties.
 

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Why don't we stop them without firing a bullet. We simply throw out the Indus water treaty . Why share waters with your enemies? Modi has the best policy I have ever seen from any Indian pm.


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We cant block immediately. We dont have that infrastructure. I suppose we should with blocking Rivers flowing through Punjab.
 
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We cant block immediately. We dont have that infrastructure. I suppose we should with blocking Rivers flowing through Punjab.
It would not be a blocking it could be done easily by diverting parts of the rivers at points in india


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It would not be a blocking it could be done easily by diverting parts of the rivers at points in india


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Yes that's why I meant. We dont have infrastructure to divert. We should first try with Punjab rivers.
 
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Screw Russia, India should cancel all outstanding military deals awarded to them and shop somewhere else.
Most of India's strategic weapons are of Russian origin . It would be very difficult and costly


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