Modi a good PM material, is as secular as anyone

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  1. Ray

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    So, Modi is secular.

    And he is good PM material.

    If one goes by the popular perception, there is a sizeable amongst the population who would not quite agree that Modi is secular.

    Also.while Modi is a proved administrator, one would think that governing a State and governing a Country are two different kettles of fish. The belief is that one should have some administrative experience at the Centre before being elevated to the PM's post because the dynamics are different.

    Therefore, how correct is Balbir Punj?
     
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    first i clear that secularism is not a crime it's politics ! Means if you think about your religious is it crime or you are terrorist.

    bahi Agar pandit mash nahi khata to kya vo dusre daram ki pe beijati kr rha h ?
     
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    @ ray
    Without giving him a chance you are making judgement . Whether he will be good PM or not I think you know the answer or You are 1 of those people who thinks That MMS is doing a great job ? then you will not be convinced even if Modi became the greatest PM of modern India.
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    sizeable amongst the population ? you mean the people who watch NDTV CNN-IBN ,Times now Etc?

    Sorry to be Personal
     
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    It would have been good of you if you restricted yourself to attacking the message and not the messenger.

    But then what is done, is done.

    I have not given any judgement.

    I gave the pros and cons.

    And I asked if Balbir Punj is correct.

    I left it so, so that there would be a debate.

    As you are new to the Forum, possibly you have not read my posts on the governance of MMS and what it has led us to.
     
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    Quite true that running a state government and governing an entire country of the size of India are two different things. But let us have a look at our other options, and I don't see any personality coming closer to Modi in terms of experience and qualification.
     
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    I would like to think that it will take time to have another leader like Atal Bihari who could take all along, and at the same time, deliver.

    Modi is good, but then he does not have the same universal appeal as ABV.

    We have to take India along, to include all elements of society so as to have one identity - India.

    Atal Bihari achieved that.

    One felt good to be an Indian then!
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    If Manmohan Singh can become PM then Modi is an overkill for his post!

    If he were not secular he wouldn't have given "shoot at sight order" nor deployed Army at any stage of 2002 riots because after all he was a CM :rolleyes:
     
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    your pro is He is a good administrator that itself answers your question .
    I think he was a RSS cadre working in some state, then Atal ji asked him to take the responsibility of Gujarat and made him CM , I think he didn't have any experience of running a state but he is doing wonderfully well that even his enemy praise him.
    So It is wrong to think that he will not be good at the center
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    On one hand people say Rahul ghandhi should became CM of state first and manage and become PM ,and on the other hand people questioning a proven Administrator whether he will come Good?

    Again correct me if I am wrong
     
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    Let us forget about Modi for a while. It's just one of the possibility that also if BJP (NDA) comes in power.

    What are the other options ??

    1) RahulG - Do i need to say anything ? :rolleyes:

    2) P.Chidambaram - A fraud of 1st class. He won LS seat by illegal way. case still pending. Then his involvement in various scams including 2G.

    3) Pranab Mukherji - Every person who has been a minister for a such long time has at least some achievement worth mentioning. What is Pranab's in his entire career? Also, He will be president. So no possibility also.

    4) AK Antony ? A person who said CBI enquiry is not needed as the Kerala CM in 2002 when Muslim League was involved in Anti-Hindu, Marad massacre which is already proved by commission report. Working under pressure in small state until Hindus came on street demand for justice ? A person who cannot convince a CM or any mister in UPA-2 ?

    5) Mulayam ? So that Azam Khan and Raju Bhaiiya can turn their constituency as the capital of criminal activity ?

    6) Mamta ? :rofl:

    7) Nitish ?? Who cannot win even 50% seats in Bihar and followers of same caste politics by changing Y to KK ? Even BJP will never support him even if it has to sit in opposition.

    8) PriyankaG ? So that Vadhera becomes next Zardari ?

    Kapil Sibal of Zero Loss, Pawar, one of the most corrupt politician, Marxist or any regional party ???


    Narendra Modi is head and shoulder ahead than any of the leader mentioned above. There is no comparison. Yes, he is not acceptable by every Indian. But no leader is acceptable by everyone. Is RahulG acceptable ? :shocked:
     
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    yes RG accepted as a joker :laugh:

    I think JJ is Good Admin but she is fighting corruption charges.
    She is trying to copy Modi model inTN .
    But Again Modi is H & S above any one in India .
     
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    Nandan Nilekani or Rahul G will be PM candidates from UPA !
     
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    Manmohan is no paragon.

    He is also not his master.

    In so far as 2002, the Army was not called out by Modi.

    It was the Central Govt since they alone can order the deployment of the Army in Aid to Civil Power. My Division was recalled from Op Parikrama and sent to control the situation.
     
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    Nandan Nilekani - No possibility.
    RahulG - Yes.
    Mulayam - Yes.

    Is rahulG is acceptable ? or acceptable is not the issue because he is Congressi ?
     
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    Army was called! :)
     
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    first let their party win Lok sabha election, remember we are not USA, we have muti parties going for election. These type of lolipop i have seen always given by BJP before election to undermine our Constitution. It will be elected representative who will elect PM. Pls remember it is union cabinate which run the country and not PM alone.
     
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    It's congress which gave many lolipop to win election. Like MGNREGA and now may be FSB next year even when we don't have enough money!

    So you think union cabinet running UPA-2 ? SoniaG is doing nothing ? Is this some kind of joke ?

    Congress won 2004 election, MMS lost his seat. Are you talking about party winning election and PM candidate winning constituency is not important ?
     
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    No matter who is the PM candidate of the Congress and no matter how great a personality he is, he will never succeed unless he is Rahul G, who though is incompetent will however not be interfered with at every step since he would have consulted Mama before hand.

    There will always be the remote control that will override everything.

    That is the comedy of errors!

    In comparison, the BJP, though having stellar personalities cannot ride home on its own to control the Delhi Durbar.

    Therefore, its PM candidate has to have universal appeal where the NDA appears as one, attracts more, and pulls the country in one direction!
     
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    This time the mood is totally anti congress.

    Tell me 1 person in present gov Cabinet who is worth mentioning .
     
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    Army is a Central Govt asset and it is released and deployed by the Central Govt.

    I might as well remind you that the Army was deployed for Op Parikrama then, uncoiling to be unleashed against Pakistan.

    As I said I belonged to the Division that was deployed and if I may inform you I was the No 2!
     
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    So long as there is dual control and ji hazoori to the Nehru Gandhi, the Congress Party will never do India good.

    They have their share of good people, but then puppets cannot deliver!

    They are on a string!

    At the same time, the BJP does not have all India reach.

    It has to depend on others. (So must the Congress inspite of an all India reach, but with alarming downward spiral of popularity).

    Therefore, the PM candidate has to have a all encompassing acceptability.

    The mood is indeed anti Congress, but does it mean that it is pro BJP and not for regional parties?
     
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