Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by nitesh, Apr 8, 2009.
There is a reason Para didnt wear helmets for a long time.
Am in favor of patkas over fancy helmets which doesn't offer any protection.
and they look total badass
Looks good but not good enough as those fancy helmets.
I meant something like FAST patka ? Something that could provide all around head protection and sturdy as Patka as well ?
The reason i always said 'Patka ' is best suited for CT ops ..
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What helmet were they wearing?
Are there no helmets that can provide full protection against standard firearms used by terrorist?
Very interesting. And I don't even know if our garuds use Level III Kevlar helmets. One article says its ACH which should be more inferior IMO. What helmets are suitable for protection against AK47?
TATA / MKU model design to resist 9mm rounds ..
There is a reason Patka offer limited protection, Its mainly due to trade-off between protection and weight, There are helmets which offer protection against 7.62x39mm but are nearly 2-2.5kgs heavy ..
SM group was working on a helmet which use boron carbide and promised to be lighter but never worked in real conditions, This one though was 1.5kgs and protected from only 9x19mm rounds, Inferior to what MKU was offering with its lighter bolt-less helmets.
All these cool looking helmets are vulnerable to 7.62x39mm at any ranges ..
I can't remember him right now but one senior member here replied me once that Patka's AK resistance capability is unquestionable...but Patka's inability to suppress/absorb the momentum and shock from high velocity bullet cause severe skull damage and death..thats why new helmets are better...how sound this point is ?
I don't remember exactly where I read it. I suppose it was in this forum that the guy whose patka is in the pic died due to excessive blood loss due to injury over neck area. I guess both patka and helmets have pros and cons.
Trauma pads can be fitted inside patka helmets just as they are fitted in western style helmets.But it will add weight. In other countries the army would have funded the improvement of the patka helmets. But here in India we are dumping the indegeneous designs and going for fancy looking western style helmets which cannot withstand the AK 7.62*39 mm round which is the weapon of choice of the terrorist.
End result: as more of these helmets are inducted our casualties due to head shots will increase in kashmir.
Patkas have many variation and manufactured by many Indian companies including TATA, some of these which are in service don`t have much of trauma padding ..
Instead of going for newer design they went for these cool looking helmets which offer better trauma padding and accessories but lack protection from heavy bullets such as 7.62M43, It would have make sense if these helmet went for infantry units which are not active in CT areas ..
The difference between tin bucket and MKU design is that MKU got more turma padding, protection level is same as tin buckets, The ACH was used by PARA SF for some time but no longer seen again ..
I dont think that is true.
Patka saved soldiers life....six months
Terrorists fired AK from close distance (maybe 30mts or less) that news was posted in in the tread also.
While Mukuts could withstand only 9 mm.
I wish we had tests comparing both Patka and 9mm.
If those two soldiers were wearing Patkas then they would be alive today and celebrating Diwali with their company.
Here is the link. https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/india-news/gunner-rishi-kumar-killed-2-terrorists-bulletproof-patka-saved-his-life-1687274?amp=1&akamai-rum=off
From article's picture, it seems that soldier had no head injury let alone skull crushing damage.
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Superb video...... I guess there are really no "Bullet Proof" helmets at all.... Patka don't give protection in the top
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