Military Objective Achieved: China India agree to disengage

here2where

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Diddly Squat.....
Unless Doval returned with a signed,stamped letter with mandarin on it giving some written assurances, i guess we just got bitch slapped by chinks. :facepalm:

I just hope Doval's briefcase had that letter.
 

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You have avoided a possible militery conflict between two nuclear power neighbour. If war broke out nobody wins. ...
And you think chinks didn't know that?
Dude, neither country can afford it, so no one was going for any war anyway :facepalm:
It was all chest-thumping and war cries. African tribal - ishtyle
 

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Diddly Squat.

India shouldn't have abandoned the post. Though we have now achieved our military goal of maintaining Status Quo but giving Chinese a face saver shows that we are still diplomatically recessive.

I must also bring it to the notice of readers that when there was debate in Parliament, scoundrels like SP's Naresh Agarwal and others were talking like if India has committed some crime and it is India's responsibility to be nice and tranquil with the neighbours. What Rahul Gandu did by meeting Chinese ambassador we all know.

Sushma Swaraj played it to the gallery and did all kind of Meow Meow and Bling Bling on being nice, trade, control of tongue and what not.

Reading tweets of Presstitutes and leaders like Omar Abdullah one thing was pretty clear that they paddling Chinese narrative and at the same time putting pressure on GOI to behave like Congress-I "Being Sensitive to Chinese Sensitivities".

Modi was more than ready to tow their line of thinking. May be he hoped they will credit him for that as well.

But when disengagement happened they kicked him in his gut and started paddling same twisted doubts on his diplomatic success.

Modi's inferirity complex is getting bigger and bigger day by day.
Yes, you are right nobody did anything.
Modi did not do anything.
Sushma Swaraj did not do anything.
Foreign secretary did not do anything.
Indian ambassador in china did not do anything.
Chinese ambassador in India did not do anything.
Chinese foreign minister did not do anything.
Eleven ping pong did not do anything.
No body did not do anything.

The situation magically de-escalated itself.
 

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Diddly Squat.

India shouldn't have abandoned the post. Though we have now achieved our military goal of maintaining Status Quo but giving Chinese a face saver shows that we are still diplomatically recessive.

I must also bring it to the notice of readers that when there was debate in Parliament, scoundrels like SP's Naresh Agarwal and others were talking like if India has committed some crime and it is India's responsibility to be nice and tranquil with the neighbours. What Rahul Gandu did by meeting Chinese ambassador we all know.

Sushma Swaraj played it to the gallery and did all kind of Meow Meow and Bling Bling on being nice, trade, control of tongue and what not.

Reading tweets of Presstitutes and leaders like Omar Abdullah one thing was pretty clear that they paddling Chinese narrative and at the same time putting pressure on GOI to behave like Congress-I "Being Sensitive to Chinese Sensitivities".

Modi was more than ready to tow their line of thinking. May be he hoped they will credit him for that as well.

But when disengagement happened they kicked him in his gut and started paddling same twisted doubts on his diplomatic success.

Modi's inferirity complex is getting bigger and bigger day by day.
We are only moving back 300meters as far as I know. We still stand at top of the location , we still hold chinese by the balls there.

And no modi was not being nice. We entered into china controlled territory that too from Bhutan border , it was us being the bad boys and Chinese have been crying like good pretty girl whose skirt we pulled down.

You could say we harassed China for three months without any consequence. This is probably pay back for nsg , azhar and previous standoffs. Like I posted before we set a new precedence of entering chinese side for months and on. And china can't do anything about it. More will follow according to time.
 

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And you think chinks didn't know that?
Dude, neither country can afford it, so no one was going for any war anyway :facepalm:
It was all chest-thumping and war cries. African tribal - ishtyle
The Chinese knows at last that they bark so loudly that they couldn't bite and now the world also knows that Chinese are the barking lots who seldom bite.
 

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We are only moving back 300meters as far as I know. We still stand at top of the location , we still hold chinese by the balls there.

And no modi was not being nice. We entered into china controlled territory that too from Bhutan border , it was us being the bad boys and Chinese have been crying like good pretty girl whose skirt we pulled down.

You could say we harassed China for three months without any consequence. This is probably pay back for nsg , azhar and previous standoffs. Like I posted before we set a new precedence of entering chinese side for months and on. And china can't do anything about it. More will follow according to time.
Do you guys have comprehension problem @ezsasa ; ?

Please GO back to the original Question that was answered.

Regards
 
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Chinese have started to receive tit for tat from India. One thing has been established - india is a sovereign nation which isn't afraid of any country of this world.
 

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Because of the policies of Modi government of Make in India and indigenous arms manufacturing, prioritizing defence preparedness that was neglected for 10 years by previous governments, frequent visits to multiple nations to build rapport and goodwill and get business, India has grown stronger. Indians have full faith in Modi. Because of this faith in Modi, despite sold out politicians and presstitudes and sold out media singing Chinese songs and always criticizing Modi, Indian public favored Modi. Probably Chinese would have thought that a few threats by Gobar Times and echoing same via sold out pimps in opposition and media will shake indian public confidence in Modi and Modi may decide to back off on public criticism. On the contrary, Indian public favored Modi.

I believe strength of Indian economy, Indian armed forces, developments in military and defence technology by DRDO have also caused a sense of abhorrence to armed conflict in Chinese. Chinese have one child policy. Death of Chinese soldiers would cause more public outcry in China.

We should continue indigenous production of arms. Build indigenous guns for mountain warfare. Increase war reserves for ammunition. Work faster on missiles shield. Increase LCA production.

A stronger India will be a deterrent for any psychopath nation.
 

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Can someone tell me how much of the road China completed and how much of it we destroyed?


Thanks,

If my English proficiency is good in reading diplomatic communiqués then it makes perfect sense to me that both are doing expeditious disengagement.

I do not know how @cyclops is reading it.

May be MEA should make it clear for those who are not competent enough.
A bit more aggressive statement like the Chinks regurgitated would have been better imho.
 
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Doval ji ___________________________________/\___________________________________

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-of-the-doklam-deal/articleshow/60283770.cms?

NEW DELHI: "Is it your territory?" China's state councillor Yang Jiechi bluntly asked national security adviser A K Doval on the presence of Indian troops at Doklam as the two met on July 27 in Beijing to make the first diplomatic stab at resolving the confrontation over the strategically crucial patch.

The sharp poser reflected the Chinese intransigence over changing the status quo at the trijunction of Bhutan, India and China by building a road through what India considers to be Bhutanese territory.

The toughness failed to faze Doval, who, according to sources here, is learned to have responded that the point of contention was not China's territory either as it had been claimed by Bhutan. "Does every disputed territory become China's by default?" sources quoted the NSA as having replied.

Doval asserted that the territory was part of Bhutan, and a treaty with the Himalayan kingdom obliged India to look after the latter's security.

The NSA also stressed that Doklam was on the table during the several rounds of negotiations China has held with Bhutan to solve their border disputes, while reminding his interlocutor of Beijing's offer to hand over to the kingdom 500 sq km in the north in exchange for Doklam.

He is learned to have argued that China's claim over Doklam was not settled, and both sides should simultaneously pull back their troops to restore status quo.

The sharp exchange was followed by several rounds of negotiations between the two sides in Beijing in which foreign secretary S Jaishankar, along with India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, tried to hammer out a solution.

The talks had been okayed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping when they met in Hamburg on the sidelines of the G20 meeting on July 7. The meeting saw Modi telling Xi that the dispute should not be allowed to escalate and suggesting that negotiations be held at the NSA level.

Modi asked his team to explore ways for early resolution of the confrontation, the worst in many decades, saying differences should not be allowed to turn into conflicts as the two countries had a lot to gain from cooperation. At the same time, he sketched his bottomline very clearly. "India will not allow the status quo to be changed by force under any circumstance.

Any change must happen through negotiations and through mutual understanding," the PM is learned to have emphasised.

The brief saw the government refusing to be baited by the endless barrage of provocative statements and actions from China, including "conspicuous" movement of missiles and tanks, and scuffles at other border points.

The posture of restraint saw the Army being instructed to ignore provocations. "Even a single shot fired by an edgy soldier could have sparked a wider conflagration in such tense times," said a senior officer as he expressed admiration for the Army leadership for enforcing compliance.

But the Army did not lower its vigil even for a moment as it reinforced men and material at the confrontation site, and moved back-up forces close. "We knew that the rhetoric and the movement of missiles etc were mind games intended to get us to blink. But at the same time, we were prepared for any eventuality which might have been forced on us," said a source who added that China, used to having its way in territorial disputes with countries like the Philippines, had not bargained for India's doggedness and finally came around to realise that negotiations were the only way out.
 

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We entered into china controlled territory that too from Bhutan border , it was us being the bad boys and Chinese have been crying like good pretty girl whose skirt we pulled down.

You could say we harassed China for three months without any consequence.
That area is disputed between Bhutan and China. It is NOT Chinese territory though it is frequently patrolled by them and the Bhutanese Army too. It is only China that says the territory belongs to them.

Secondly, as per the 2012 agreement between all three countries, the status quo will not be changed in this area unilaterally which the Chinese did by constructing a road there.
 

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Do not put doubt in reader's mind, it was a clear victory for India to force Chinese back and ask them to remove their construction hardware.

In China, they are projecting as Chinese victory. No it is not.

People in China after such a massive propaganda in Global Times and People's daily expect a victory statement hence reference to removal of construction equipment was removed in the final virtual agreement. Rather they kept on harping that India will remove their troops but forgot to mention that their own troops have been removed to previous positions deeper in the Chumbi valley, much at the mercy of Indian gunners even ten miles behind the front lines because India occupy a higher ground.

China had to lie to its people because they waged a propaganda war which had lead people to believe in China that they are correct and could force Indian troops anytime they want. As a matter of fact the reverse was true.

Now after humiliating US virtual retreat from South China Sea, which China managed to capture without firing a shot, a stop has been put to China's almighty ambitions. It's strategic ambitions of boss of Asia have been put to rest.

A corollary of this crisis that US put an end to any Pakistani ambition to fight a two front war with India. President Trump in his strong statement on Afghanistan warned Pakistan of political machination. He even threatened to cut military aid if things not go as to what he wants.

Finally Modi diplomacy is laying off.
 

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