Mikhail Gorbachev warns world on 'brink of a new Cold War'

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    Mikhail Gorbachev warns world on 'brink of a new Cold War' - World - CBC News

    The Associated Press Posted: Nov 08, 2014 10:40 AM ET

     
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    Mikhail Gorbachev warns of 'new Cold War'



    Published on Nov 8, 2014, by BBC NEWS US
     
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    So yes it is clear now. It is Cold war -2 or say on 'brink of a new Cold War'.


     
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    Nukes of Hazard Blog - Blog

    Russia and the U.S. in a new Cold War?
    Claudia C | Mar 26, 2014

     
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    A new cold war? Why Crimea should matter to Americans

    Susan Page, USA TODAY 7:39 a.m. EDT March 14, 2014

    Steven Pifer, 60, has served as the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine and as a senior official in the State Department and the White House National Security Council, specializing in Russia and Ukraine. He is now director of the Arms Control and Non-Proliferation Initiative at the Brookings Institution. He was interviewed Thursday at Brookings for USA TODAY's Capital Download.

     
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    Cold war? Mr. Gorbachev must be dreaming. The West has a combined economy of $35Trillion while Russia is only $2Trillion. If the post sanctions events in the Russian economy is the gauge well it didn't take that long for the west to shake down Russia. And things will no doubt get more dire as the sanctions continue. Russia is shooting its own foot here.
     
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    We'll have the wait and see what happens.

    The currency is not as important as what can be bought with that currency. Russia has already switched part of its trade with PRC and Iran in non-Dollar currencies. Once BRICS Bank becomes more robust, the Dollar will be further weakened, as more and more people will switch to SDR. With too much Dollars in the market, its value will drop, and in some likelihood, the US Treasury will default on its debts, and they know that. That is probably why they had the FED tapering. The US cannot prop up the Dollar by invading resource rich countries for long. There are not many resource rich countries left to invade. Well, I might be excluding the Tyrannical Regime of the al-Saud Family.
     
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    War ,hot or cold...is unwinnable in todays world. You have been taught western language in which power is equated only with money. But, there are multiple facets of power and money is one of them. If it was only money, how much money AlQuida has in comparison to NATO. Not even 0.1 % then, the war should have lasted less than One hour . But ,the war has lasted 13+years and still continuing. This is just an example to clarify the concept. I am absolutely against Al Quida. Other facets of power are (1) moral power (2) world support (3) will and determination (4) desire to take any amount of risk
    and (5) weapons of course. Just having more money is not enough.
     
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    @prohumanity,

    How come ISIS all of a sudden captured so much territory?

    Whatever they did could not have been possible without a few years of planning, stockpiling of heavy weapons, manpower training and funding. ISIS is also selling oil for money. They cannot sell oil if no one is buying.
     
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    Sir, you are talking about economics. But cold war has nothing to do with it.

    Let us see what Cold War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia says.....

    QUOTE: The Cold War was a state of political and military tension after World War II [here read it as Crimean crisis] between powers in the Western Bloc (the United States, its NATO allies and others) and powers in the Eastern Bloc.

    And I agree with you that "Russia is shooting its own foot here".
     
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    The biggest factor in ISIS is there ability to be extremely brutal...beheadings, display of people's heads on lamp posts, crucified dead bodies of christians...the brutality which has no limits....so they could create extreme amount of fear in the public. By the way, who funded them, who gave them weapons and training..many people believe... .it was west and/or Saudis ,who wanted to use them to topple Prez. Assad BUT all that backfired and they turned against West.. And now, its all blood everywhere in Iraq and Syria. Mission NOT accomplished. Unfortunately, a very cruel and primitive force has been created and it seems it's not going anywhere in near future. The world has been taken back to 18th century by whoever created ISIS. It's just sad.
     
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    Europe may become irrelevant due to short-sighted policies – Gorbachëv

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    Former President of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev attends a symposium on security in Europe 25 years after the fall of the "Wall" in Berlin on November 8, 2014 (AFP Photo / Odd Andersen)

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    Well, I hope Europe looks at Gorbachëv and learns what not to do.
     
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    Gorbachev don't make silly statements . You know who lost the last Cold War.
     
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    In a kind of long drawn out cold conflict like the Cold War the ability of a combatant's economy to sustain the expenses of maintaining alliances, updating its military and keeping its people happy is very important.
     
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    Gorbachev is very nice for Louis Vitton ads. He is the last person however to listen to on strategic matters. I think what he is doing is riding on the situation to recover some of his credibility with the Russian people who are increasingly inward looking and ultra-nationalistic.
     
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    It is Gorbachev who fathered the environment that has proved healthy manure for the new Cold War.

    He is an irrelevant doddering ditherer, who wants to remain irrelevantly relevant.
     
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    In general the cold war-1 started little after ww-2, say 1946, 47.

    That was the time when Soviet got hit by one of the major famine. At that time they appealed in UN for relief / assistance.

    Rest is history.
     
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    Ehh .. like Mushy ??
     
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    Most of the ISIS weapons are said to have been acquired from fleeing Iraqi army and its bases, implying that they were not so heavy armed before.
    That raises another question, how did the Iraqi army become so incapable in front of a relatively light armed enemy .. that they had to literally flee, leaving their military hardware for the advancing enemy to pick?
    And if they were really so incapable, why did the so called world leaders leave Iraq hanging on some military hardware, to command which there weren't event enough capable hands?

    Regards,
    Virendra
     
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