Mig-29 – New Striker for Indian Air force

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  1. Neil

    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    Recent successful first flight of the upgraded Mig-29UPG of Indian air force in Russian , marks the birth of a new striker platform for the Indian air force , India had awarded Mig-29 upgrade contract to Russia worth $900 million in 2006 and first flight of the upgraded Mig-29UPG makes it now more formidable strike platform ,which was missing in it earlier .

    Mig-29A/B variants were first inducted into Indian air force in 1986 to counter Pakistan’s acquisition of F-16 in their fleet , Mig-29 was designed to be a aerial interceptor aircraft and a dog fighter for the air force , it had little or no capabilities to strike ground targets , but with new upgrades to it avionics and airframe Indian air force will have that capability fighter-bomber capable of striking mobile and stationary targets on the ground and at sea with high-precision weapons under all weather conditions. from this superlative fighter.

    This hold quite a importance to Indian air force since its plans to upgrade Mirage -2000 fleet has still not taken off due to higher price asked by the french vendor and also due to safety issues regarding Mig-27 fleet which forms a bulk of the Ground attack fleet along with the Jaguar strike aircraft’s .upgraded Mig-29 fleet will only strengthen strike aircraft fleet of the Indian air force , since addition of MKI’s in IAF’s Fleet has strengthened both the roles for the air force .

    Mig-29 as per the contract will get new increased range and payload, new glass cockpit, digital fly-by-wire control system, new avionics, improved radar, KOLS infrared search and track (IRST) and an in-flight refueling probe. The radar will be the Phazotron Zhuk-ME which is capable of tracking ten targets to a maximum range of 245km.

    IAF has 69 operational MiG-29 ,while Russia will be upgrading 6 of this jets in Russia , while the Rest 63 jets will be upgraded locally in HAL facility from the upgrade kits provided by the Russia , HAL will also will be locally producing 120 RD-33 series 3 turbojet engines for the upgraded jets.

    Mig-29 will also get Thales TopSight-E helmet-mounted sight and display (HMDS) which is also fitted to aircraft for the carrier borne Mig-29k for the Indian Navy.The armament upgrade will include the installation of modern weaponry like smart bombs and substantially improved air-to-air missiles and high-accuracy guided missiles to destroy ground and sea targets.


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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    I thought they would be in our fleet by now. Why is everything so slow in our country?
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    MiG-29SMT will mostly be using KAB-500KR and or Kh-29T. The optical package comes included in the missile so no pods are required. The optics aren't great and the range is poor, but an alert pilot with a steady hand on the joystick and some practice can make good use of these weapons. You can see a little of its bombing function here...

     
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    MIG-29SMT upgrade of 1998 is less likely to be similarly in 2011.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    The only thing new is TopSight and that is French.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    mmrca is offering mig 35 at a very low price but iaf prefers mig 29 ?? mig 35 could have been bought plus the remainder for the other state of the art aircraft but goi wont split the tender because 1% of 10 billion for commission is a lot better than 1% commission of a split tender !
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    GoI is looking to get an infusion of new production technologies and the MiG-35 doesn't come with it. The advertised maintenance hours on the engine turned out to be a lie, the radar manufacture is in bankruptcy court, and Sokol has yet to invest a dime in a production line much less a production prototype.
     
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    double posting.....

    self- delete.....
     
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    ace009 Freakin' Fighter fan Elite Member

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    I liked this ... don;t think IAF or IN MiG-29s have these 3D TV though ...

    [video]http://megacombat.net/ovt-mig-29-demonstration-of-thrust-vectoring/[/video]
     
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    IAF MIG-29 will have longer range..
     
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    RD-33 MK3 dont have TVC, Only Prototype MIG-35 armed with Prototype RD-33 TVC
     
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    some good news in this deal
     
  16. Killswitch

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    The Sukhoi is the backbone of the fleet, the Rafale will be the secondary.

    The mig 29, mirage 2000, mig 27, jaguar, and mig 21 are all undergoing mid life refits.

    Sometimes I wonder.....


    Wouldn't it be easier to take all the upgrade money for the mig 29, mirage, jag, mig 21, and mig 27 and just use that money for more MKI's and Rafales?

    HAL could focus on making 2 excellent 4++ gen planes (MKI Rafale) at a rate of 40+ a year and the IAF could slowly phase out the old aircraft and simplify the fleet.

    I know it must seem oversimplified, but considering the costs of upgrades, spares for multiple planes, training required etc. I think it could have worked. I always wondered why the IAF had such a diverse fleet. It seems over complicated and slapped together. A bigger fleet of fewer types with the same or even more capabilities would be much less expensive, easier to service, and would also be easier to train for.
     
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    Just take out all these aircraft and see what we are left with. We will have an air force smaller than Taiwan.

    Let's not give HAL too much credit.

    Multiple aircraft allows for two important things. One, if one type fails, the others can be pressed into service. Case in point was Kargil war where the Jaguars had insufficient power and were not used as much. So, Mirages took over the role in dropping PGMs. Two, the local industry and IAF will gain experience working on multiple platforms. Also, most of these aircraft have dedicated roles as compared to today's aircraft. For eg: Mig-29s, Mig-21s and Mirage-2000s for air superiority. Mig-27 and Jaguar for strike and Mig-25 was interception and recce. Today the MKI can do all these roles.

    With funding like VVS or USAF, we can have our two type or three type air force in the future. Fast forward to 2040, we will have only PAKFA, LCA, Rafale, MKI and AMCA in service with MKI being in the same state as our Mig-21s today. Rafale and LCA will have a decade more, so they may be like our Mig-29s and M-2000s today. So, the mainstay will be PAKFA and AMCA by that time with prototype UCAVs in tests.
     
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    By 2040 IAF should be getting 6th gen fighters in service, especially if the AMCA is successful by 2030.

    The concept of "Multi-role" or Omni-role is precisely appealing because of that - the multi-role capabilities allows you to use the same aircraft for different missions - whether recon, interception, air-superiority, deep strike or close-air-support. IAF already has the MKI, next is the Rafale, followed by the FGFA/ PAK-FA and finally the AMCA (hopefully) - which should be the LAST manned combat aircraft ...
     
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    I know this is a Mig 29 thread, but is it true that also the IAF Jaguars dont have radars????!!!
     
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    utubekhiladi The Preacher Elite Member

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    Yes! :facepalm:
     
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