Marines issue, UN chief wants bilateral resolution

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    Fury in Italy over marines issue, UN chief wants bilateral resolution

    Rome: In a blow to Italy's attempt to internationalise the case of two Italian marines being tried in India for killing two fishermen, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has asked Rome to resolve the issue bilaterally.

    "It's better for the question to be addressed bilaterally, rather than with the involvement of the UN," Ban was quoted as saying by Italian news agency ANSA, sparking fury in Italy.

    His comments came a day after Italy petitioned the UN over the trial of the marines under a strict anti-piracy law and vowed to exercise "all options" to bring back its personnel.

    Foreign Minister Emma Bonino told Italian parliament that she felt "great bitterness and perplexity" that Ban said the case was a "bilateral" issue. She, however, added that Ban "guaranteed me comprehension and assured he would subsequently take action with the Indian authorities" over the case.

    Marines Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone shot dead two fishermen off the Kerala coast in February 2012, sparking diplomatic tensions between India and Italy.

    Indian authorities have given their nod to the National Investigation Agency (NIA), which is probing the matter, to prosecute the marines under the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against Safety of Maritime Navigation And Fixed Platforms on Continental Shelf Act (SUA). The SUA carries death penalty.

    India last week removed the possibility of a death penalty but insisted that the marines would still be prosecuted under the anti-piracy law. Now, they face up to 10 years in jail.

    Italy said use of the terror law equates it with being a terrorist state. Defence Minister Mario Mauro, meanwhile, said the case must also be won within the UN and acknowledged it as a global issue.

    "On the case of the marines, the government has set clear two actions: one is the internationalisation of the case, so the tug of war with the UN must be won for this," Mauro said.

    "One can't think it is a matter only between Italy and India, for one simple reason. It deals with two soldiers on a national mission, but which responds to a global society need, which is to put a stop to piracy and terrorism".

    Yesterday, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the case could have "negative implications" for the fight against piracy, in which both the EU and NATO are engaged with major operations against Somali pirates in the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean.

    Ban's comments were seen as hand-washing by many in Italy.

    "The UN has once again confirmed its expensive uselessness with the secretary-general, a marginal, irrelevant figure on the world arena, refusing to make the kidnapping of our marines in India an international issue," said Maurizio Gasparri, a Senator for ex-premier Silvio Berlusconi's centre-right Forza Italia party.

    "Ban Ki-moon offends Italy by relegating the issue to the level of a dispute between our country and India, when we are faced with the arrogance of a pirate state with the respect to our soldiers".

    On Monday, India's Supreme Court set February 18 as the next date for hearing arguments from both the sides on the use of the anti-piracy law. Italy had approached the apex court on January 15 amid fears that the NIA intends to prosecute the marines under the anti-terror law SUA.

    The marines, deployed on the Italian-flagged oil tanker MT Enrica Lexie, said they mistook the fishermen for pirates. They are now staying in the Italian Embassy in New Delhi awaiting trial.

    Rome wants the marines to be tried in Italy, claiming the incident took place in international waters. However, New Delhi says it has the right to try the Italians as the victims were Indians on board an Indian fishing boat.

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    Who the eff is UN chief to intervene in this issue?

    Italian criminals must be punished as per Indian laws.
     
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    Exactly. That is why he told Italy to solve it bilaterally. Italy is trying very hard to corner India.
     
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    Even though it looks that, I smell something fishy.
     
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    Sh!t ..In Syria Thousand Hundred of Lives lost by a Regime ..In Paakistaan Daily 50+ deaths ..even the Paakki come inside our soil and Beheaded our Soldiers ..In Sri Lanka Tamils Genocide


    But the UN didn't act ..But they come for these Marines

    what's next after EU ,NATO ,UN ..Smells that Pope on the way to comment for The Marines
     
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    its important that the fisherman that passed away are not forgotten (regards to the families). it is not the case like in paki where compensation was paid in millions and criminal charges were dropped in a place known for terrorists and murders (self defense angle) . also it is significant that them passing away has enforced GOI to make a significant point to Italy and the world that Indians and namely people near the marine border of India are not terrorists, pirates and murders akin to what is happening more western (namely > 1000+ km away). the response of using the rule of law and transparent procedure and proceedings with bail and the applicable laws of india shows and reinforces that india is not a terrorists, pirates and murders akin to what is happening more western (namely > 1000+ km away).

    It would be better for Italy to apologise and focus more on reconciliation by declaring it was a mistake and a act not under the military umbrella that would be more appropriate in the western waters (> 1000+ km away from india maritime border). If the issue is that it was in international waters it would be on a scale of < 1 % of the distance and a fine measurement. Innocent lives have been lost and it is sad what the Italian marines are going through. One can assume if they were informed of the relationship and demographics of the Indian ocean and states that are composed within they would not repeat what happen near the western maritime border of India.

    no one is talking and saying and asking why the Italian marines thought there were terrorists, pirates and murders near Kerala ... innocent mistake on general knowledge. the crew was even Indian. the italians and indians have a good relationship. this whole thing with the italian marines is a anomaly and i believe that is the reason for the response of india. it is not something india does to friendly countries and is a bit reluctant to act fact but the point needs to be made (see above).

    this issue might also be more dynamic and probably more linked to the larger India - EU and Italy relationship and probably into the defense domain as well as political domain (the family) and even more akin to what is happening with devyani khobargde.
     
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    Exactly. When an european country is involved in a tussle with India, UN talks about peace, bilateral ties :blah: :blah: :blah:
     

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