Marathwada becoming Pakistan: Bal Thackeray

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  1. afako

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    Marathwada region, from where the arrested LeT handler of 26/11 Mumbai terrorist attack, Abu Hamza hails, is fast becoming the "new Pakistan", Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray said on Wednesday.

    "Marathwada, which was earlier known as the land of saints, is now becoming the land of terrorists," the Sena patriarch said in an editorial in party mouthpiece 'Saamana'.

    In the last five-six years, the connection of any terrorist act anywhere in the country reaches Marathwada, which has become a recruitment centre of terrorists, only due to the lackadaisical functioning of the government and the home department, he claimed.

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    Be it the Ghatkopar blasts, German Bakery blast, Gujarat blast, the terrorists involved belonged to Marathwada, Mr Thackeray said. "The new Pakistan that is emerging in Marathwada is dangerous not only for Maharashtra but for the country."

    The Sena chief also wondered what the Mumbai Police was doing to counter the threats. "What does the intelligence department of police do, is a puzzle...," he remarked.

    Abu Hamza arrest: Marathwada becoming Pakistan, says Bal Thackeray | NDTV.com

    What Bal Thackeray is saying is absolutely right. I remember looking at a Poster of Congress Muslim MP/MLA who was saying that Hindus have to be Eliminated for the sake of Islam and the usual Crapsh!t of the Abrahamics.

    Seems the Islamists, Evangelists, Marxists, Communists and Socialists have their Day under the Congress!
     
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    Bal Thackeray would like to see a Pakistan in Marthawada, he needs a target which will win him more votes. Having said that muslim radicalisation is a real and present danger.

    Unfortunately, such is the nature of the game, we'll never know if our agencies are doing something about it or not.
     
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    I dont think such a poster would have been tolerated in Maharashtra !
     
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    Bal must realise that Marathwada is one of the poorest regions of Maharashtra.

    Poverty permits and encourages radicalism.

    Saints, also, are people who developed philosophies that were radical in nature of those times!

    But today's radicalism is negative - gives birth to fighting the State, to include terrorism!
     
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    Sir,

    Do you believe there is a definite causational effect between poverty and terrorism ?
    I don't see anyone who is busy making money having time to indulge in terrorism ?
     
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    The prime accused in Bangalore or Ahmedabad blasts was a senior software engineer in wipro.

    All the 19 9/11 bombers were from middle class/upper middle class families.

    There might be a link between poverty and terrorism but it is surely overhyped as a rationalization factor.
     
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    It is not the sole reason, but it is one of the causes.

    People who are busy making money do also indulge in terrorism when they start poor and use terrorist funds to build their little nests!

    And then there are people like Osama.

    Osama is one example where he was born to money but was charged with religious zeal and a misconceived idea that Islam was the only path to God and he had to be the evangelist punishing Angel purifying the world!
     
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    It was in the heart of NCP/Congress Domain. West and East Maharashtra are Shiv Sena-BJP. Central Region i.e. Pune is the Homeground of Sharad Pawar.
     
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    They are one of the reasons behind terrorism but not solely responsible, because Muslims alone are not facing unemployment and poverty, so It does not have that much of effect. You see all the communities are facing these problems, in fact poverty and unemployment is a national problem.

    Lol Ray sir said the same.
     
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    There is a Direct Relationship between Terrorism and How More Practising is a Muslim (Salafi means One who is Pure and Worships only Quran & Sunnah and considers the rest as Shirk, Salafi happens to be Wahabi. You need not be told what a Wahabi is!)
     
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    In last 10 years, Most of the terrorist were from Marathwada.

    Most of the terrorist were engineers, chartered accountants and computer professionals to plant bombs all across Bombay.
     
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    If we open history we can see that even the so called educated upper class can come under brainwashing and not just the poor people.

    Recent example is Headly aka Pakistani, last years failed car bomb attack in New York by a Pakistani and the a blonde white American woman were all from well to do backgrounds but all had same agenda.
     
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    ^^ Headley was a triple agent, drug dealer roped in to be a spy in exchange for leniency.
    That car bomber in NY was an out of work idiot.
     
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    I saw this on Times Now yesterday.
     
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    Leave it to Bal Thackeray to obfuscate every issue by bringing in Pakistan.

    In all my trips to India as a kid my exposure was mostly limited to the region around Mumbai and Goa; hence my idea of "urban" India was based on the likes of Bombay and Pune and my idea of "rural" India on the quaint villages in the Sayadris and along the Konkan coast.

    However as an adult I decided to travel within India to get a better feel of the country. On my last trip a few years ago I had the opportunity to go through parts of central and southern Maharashtra (including parts of Marathwada). It was shocking to say the least and it summarily torpedoed the very perception of India I had until that point. It was the first time I had took a good look at the "other" India, and I must say, it was an eye opening experience. I don't think I need to elaborate upon how horribly impoverished/backward parts of this region are because the HDI numbers speak for themselves. But what did hit me hard was the insurmountable and obvious level of corruption. Later on I found out that vast swaths of this region are still feudal, and that explained the ridiculous phenomenon of horribly impoverished and dilapidated villages (children with swollen bellies and all) surrounded by bountiful crop fields that extend to the horizon. Clearly the people in these regions are yet to be awarded fundamental rights as citizens of a democratic republic.

    Bal Thackeray's rhetoric merely mentions Islamic radicalization, but frankly the risk posed by militant maoist ideology is far greater. Point being that the medieval nature of this society ends up making people susceptible to any prevalent anti social movements, radical Islam just happens to be one of them.

    Clearly there is no direct cause effect link between poverty or even illiteracy and terrorism. All the 9/11 chaps had college degrees and came from well to do families as did the London bombers and the likes of Faisal Shezad and the entire leadership of Al Qaida. However poverty, illiteracy and lack of economic opportunity are critical factors in fostering radical movements may it be Islamist or naxal. Eliminating poverty through development and literacy will not eliminate radicalism, but it will certainly mitigate it to a great extent.
     
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    I have seen the rural areas of India at leisure if I may say.

    Nothing can beat its rustic beauty and nothing can beat the warmth of the folks.
     
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    What about the rest Karthic and AC mentioned:rolleyes:
     
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    I'm sure you have, as have I. However this idyllic picture does not encompass all of rural India; the fact remains that vast portions of the Indian hinterland suck and are arguably some of the worst places in the world as far as the conditions of human beings are concerned. It is very hard to be warm and welcoming when a feudal lord has you, your progenitors and your progeny under bonded labor. Hospitality becomes a bit of a challenge when your own access to food is non existent (ironically this is food you yourself produce through back breaking labor) and where malnourished children are running around with swollen bellies.

    I'm not doubting the existence of the idyllic rural India as espoused by RK Narayan. However I cannot deny the existence of the other India described by Arvind Adiga and P Sainath either.
     

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