Mamata now labels Buddha as a MAOIST!!!

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  1. Arjak

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    Buddhadeb 'both a Marxist and a Maoist': Mamata

    KOLKATA: Countering the CPM's allegation of her party's truck with the Maoists, Trinamool Congress chief Mamata Banerjee today said the Maoists
    and the Marxists are both sides of the same coin.

    "I think that the Marxists and the Maoists are both sides of the same coin. They are working together," Banerjee told newspersons here.

    Alleging that the CPM was running the government with the help of the Maoists, she said there was no difference between the violent activities of the Maoists and Marxists.

    "If Maoists are to be banned, why not the CPM which is also carrying out armed operations in the state?"

    Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee had appealed to the Trinamool Congress yesterday to "severe links with the rebels".

    Describing Bhattacharjee as "both a Marxist and Maoist with a double face," Banerjee accused him of inaction in tracing the missing policemen Sabir Ali Molla and Kanchan Gorai reportedly kidnapped by Maoists on July 30.

    "The Union Home Minister had said that the Centre is willing to help in the search of these two policemen. I want to know why they are not being looked for even after this. Does not the Chief Minister have the responsibility to look for them?" she said.

    She claimed the state government was using CPM cadre to carry out armed operations against opposition leaders and workers. 69 Trinamool supporters have been killed by CPM activists over the past few months.

    Banerjee said she had handed over evidence regarding the killing of Trinamool men to Union Home Minister P Chidambaram.

    She also gave a list of 14 Trinamool activists who remained untraced in Nandigarm and its vicinity during the anti-land acquisition campaign there. Banerjee said according to locals, they had been killed by CPM cadre and their bodies thrown in the Haldi river.

    The Railway Minister also accused the CPM of amassing huge sums of unaccounted money, and said this will come to light once the Centre takes the move to unearth black money stashed in Swiss banks.

    Banerjee said the government was not "doing its duty" in checking the spiralling price rise. "Potato is selling at Rs 30 a kilo. But farmers are not getting a fair price."

    She said although the PDS is in the hand of the state government, it was not doing anything to ensure supply of essentials and thereby stabilise their prices.
    Buddhadeb 'both a Marxist and a Maoist': Mamata - India - The Times of India
     
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  3. Arjak

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    what next??
    kishenji is acually buddha in disguise????
    the wild has gone wilder
    what bs!!
     
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    Was wondering when the next pearl of wisdom would come forth from the lady.Looks like didi is back to her normal self again!:D:D
     
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    mamata is desperate to shed of her image as a helping hand for the maoists.........kishenji wud be very angry as he once said 'mamata wud be a good cm' sort of thing!!!
    politics is full of humour this days, frankly
     
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    Didi forgot she herself offer Kishenji to sit and talk.She forgot her comrades who accompanied her party in Singur and Nandigram and fought against CPI(M) lead Administration.Clearly she remains blind about the number of CPI(M) supporters murdered by the Maoists.Now, probably she is trying to hide from the gun of Central Gvt that might turn towards her.........
     
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    Sab ek hi thaali ke chatte batte hai. both sides have used the extremists. But then its entirely possible that since the defeat of the left, it might have tied up with the Maoists. Ideologically they are similar. And the CPM has a history of violence. With elections not too far away they will try all they can to win.
     
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    Sir, Your post is based on wild imagination. There can not be any similarity between ideologies. Simply because, there is nothing called ideology. Most of CPI(M) cadres dont even know what is Marxism. Years of corruption, no work, power politics in grassroot levels have eaten up the base of CPI(M). In present days Maoists are trying to take the disguise of Rabin Hood and CPI(M) is their enemy number one. CPI(M) kept on using muscle power and they got the answer from the public. But dont forget one thing - before Singur and Nandigram issue appeared Mamata and her party was wiped out by the popularity of budhdhadev (that election had seen unprecedented security, Central Forces were deployed in each and every booth and Mamata did not have any option of crying foul). But now Mamata got the status of 'Messiah' of farmers . Honestly saying Singur-Nandigram acted as keramin for her party. But her party is not free from power politics. If you enquire a bit, you will find many top criminals in Bengal under Trinamul banner. A nexus between CPI(M) and Maoists is impossible at present, rather Maoists stood with Mamata in many occassion like Singur and Nandigram.Without their help It was not possible for her to give a fight to a well organised party like CPI(M). People of West Bengal are fade up with CPI(M) because of non-activities. When Budhdhadev tried to move things a bit, his efforts got choked by many issues. But if Mamata keeps on her irresponsible bulls -shits, she might loss the opportunity again.
     
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    While i agree to most of the points sabir made in his last post,its still a fact that bengal for its part has only two options-CPI(M) or TMC.If we give a closer look we shall see both the parties have their drawbacks keeping the positives aside.Judging on that note i still believe CPI(M) is the best option for bengal now.If we look at the last decade or so we shall she CPI(M) is really working hard to industrialize and modernize bengal step by step,and they are doing a great job as we see in forms of Haldia and a gradually industrializing Kalyani or other such instances.Going the other way may now hamper the development that bengal awaited for long.We saw singur project going down inspite of majority of farmers happy with the deal with WB GOVT.Ones who retaliated wanted a better deal not a goodbye to the TATA-s.In the same way we can see Nayachar going down if TMC comes to power.We may see the proposed nuclear plant near Egra not happening.We may see a continuation of soft stance against the Maoists unlike now,as mamata has alaways been against use of CRPF against them.My query is why should we go back now,we have come a long way and the MUCH sane CPI(M) leadership now offers a great prospect for a glorious and great future for bengal.Look at Buddha babu's actions in the recent past,he is doing a great job barring the Nandigram debacle.But then again, as i said everything has its drawbacks,and at present,that of TMC far exceeds CPI(M).
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    'Nandigram' is a turning point in West-Bengal politics. You may remember the political parties almost gave up Singur case.But when when troubled continued in Nandigram even after the CM's declaration that the plan of 'chemical hub' is being withdrawan, Mamata got the political milage. Initially local population (even those who were CPM supporters in past) shifted to Trinomul camp. Remaining CPI(M) supporters forced to escape from Nandigram. That time Maoists took a crucial role during continuous battle between CPI(M) and the oppositions. Mamata has forgotten how they got help from the Maoists to keep CPI(M) at bay. For several months, there was no administration in Nadigram. Police force was not allowed to enter. But then the unfortunate event shook the country when WB Gvt did the mistake to use force to re-establish law and order.Local CPI(M) cadres also took part to take the revenge of their initial beating. Many people were killed in police firing. CPI(M) got the result in next Panchayet elections by being defeated completely in those areas. That gave Ms Mamata a new hope and she restart her Singur campaign when it was about a month to go for launching of the car. But one can ask Mamata what was her role to passify the tension in Nandigram when the CM already declared to withdraw the project. She never answered why people lead by her party continued to block police and administration for months from entering Nandigram after the project was withdrawan. I can bet she was the happiest person when so many people died in police firing, simple that made her way to Writer's building made smoother. She didnit hesitate to join hands with Left extremists those days. Maoists theoritical leaders from the city were among her think tank. Maoist fighters were in her battle field. Then why today she is taking the U-turn. My personal belief, her success in Election was due to mass miopia, our next generation in WB will suffer certainly because those incidents stained the image of the State a lot.

    Now there is hardly anyday goes without killing of any person being termed as CPI(M) supporter by the Maoists. Still Mamata keeps on her political drama and blames Budhdhadev as Maoists.Still the lady oppose sending central force in Lalgargh (why-because in case of any mishap she wont get the scope to blame WB Gvt and State police?). She offers Kishenji to discuss (Kishenji in returns declared Mamata as suitable CM of the State), and now a new joke to declare the CM as Maoist.
     
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    This is a case of the Pot calling the kettle black.

    Both the parties in this case do not have the development of W Bengal in the top of their agenda. They have only one agenda-- winning elections in 2011.

    The people of Bengal should give give a call to boycott both these parties and their allies. Once they see that their rallies their Michils drying up then some sense will enter into their head.
     
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    The Statesman

    Maoists find unexpected ally in CPI

    Rajib Chatterjee
    KOLKATA, 1 NOV: At a time that the CPI-M is mounting pressure on the Central government to intensify armed operations in Junglemahal to put an end to the “anarchy” created by the Maoists, the Left wing militants have found a sympathiser in an unexpected quarter ~ the Communist Party of India (CPI), a key component of the Left Front.
    In a move that may trigger controversy within the Left Front, the CPI has urged the Union home minister, Mr P Chidambaram, to take a “patient and sympathetic approach” to the Maoists ultras who have chosen the wrong track after their “dream of an exploitation free society” was dashed.
    The party's view on the activities of the Left wing ultras was published in the form of an editorial in its state unit's mouthpiece on Thursday. In what is seen as an attempt to defend the Maoist militants, the editorial stated that “sometime
    frustration is born” when “dream gets dashed”. “The eruption of frustration does not always follow the rules,” it says. Mr P Chidambaram, who has expressed his willingness to launch a campaign against sympathisers of the Maoists, should look at the “ultra-Left militants” sympathetically and take a “patient approach” to deal with them, the party advises the Centre in the editorial.
    “The ultra-Left movement in the 70's may have failed, but it had brought to the fore the important issue of land reforms. After so many years, where has the land reform taken place?” the CPI asked, posing a serious question mark on the CPI-M's claims that land reforms were carried out successfully in Bengal during the LF's 32 years of rule.
    When exploitation, neglect, oppression and inequality continue in a society, some people, especially the youths, resort to “adventurism” in a bid to do “something in a hurry”, it said.
    Amidst the allegations by the CPI-M that the Maoists are killing common people in the name of class struggle, the CPI took a soft stand, saying: “There may be questions on the way and manner they (the Maoists) have chosen to achieve their goals, but their emotion and aspiration can not be dishonoured.”
    There is always a “hue and cry” when the “Maoists kill a policeman or a political activist,” but there cannot be any denial that in India so many people die “undesired death” every day, it says. Quoting the report of an NGO, the editorial stated that three crore Indians don't get food and many of them die because of starvation and various diseases.
    Jharkhand encounter
    Jharkhand police today claimed to have killed several Maoists in a 5-hour-long fierce encounter in the dense forests of Sarwaha here, PTI adds from Hazaribagh. The shootout took place during a raid by security forces last night at a spot where a meeting of the Leftist ultras, led by Bihar-Jharkhand special committee member Kishenji alias Analji, and zonal commander Navin Manjhi was being held. Security forces used mortars and grenades against the ultras, killing and injuring many of them, police said.
     
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    I wasn't off target when I said the CPI will team up with the maoists. The beginning seams to have been made.
    Sabir, I know there is no ideology in politics these days, but then there are surely permanent interests. Mamata used them when she needed them and now that she is there in the centre, she is targetting them. CPM needs a lifeline. It will hang on to anyone who it thinks can get them one.
     
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    In bad days there will be more frictions among the Left parties, who together ruled West Bengal for three decades. CPI(M) already had disputes with its allies like CPI, FB or RSP on different issues like land acquisition, Investment in retail sectors etc. There are friction within CPI(M) (which the comrades don’t allowed to come out in public) between the hardliner theoretical leaders and those like Budhdhadev who favours to walk with the time. What CPI today is claiming is not unknown to anyone. Everybody knows failure of governments to improve the living standard of people in remote areas, lack of infrastructure, no opportunity of employments have intensified the Maoist problem. And Maoist leaders are acting as the mafias, exploiting the poor as their pawns. But if government undertakes any development programme in strong hold of the Maoists, that would be soon targeted by the Maoists. Because such initiatives will affect their support base. I do not understand why Central Gvt is hesitating so much about deployment of Army to eliminate those Maoists. They even scared to use IAF choppers fearing Maoists might shoot at them. Seems those are procured only to keep in show-case. Instead of blaming each other the States and Centre must agreed to use full strength-military and aid from IAF. The states like Orissa, Andhra, WB etc have very limited number of specialized force which can take on the Maoists in their dens. Considering the vast areas in which the Maoists operate and the nature of these areas left no alternatives other than full scale army operation. With better equipments and training in Jungle war fare it will give better results. At the end I must said once again leaders like Mamata Banerjee should be thrown in garbage who do not understand the intensity of the problem and use it in their cheap politics and personal attacks.
     
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    Trinamool, Maoists hand in glove: Basu

    KOLKATA: Former chief minister Jyoti Basu has asked Congress supporters to vote for Left Front candidates in the coming Assembly bypolls. One
    keen contest is likely in Belgachhia (east) from where maverick CPM leader Subhas Chakraborty never lost in the last three decades. The late minister's wife Ramola is contesting against Chakraborty's one-time protege Sujit Basu. It will be an acid test for the Left parties to retain the seats held by them.

    Ill health has forced the CPM patriarch to stay indoors; he had a lengthy stay at a hospital in recent months. The 2009 Lok Sabha election marked the first time in his long political career that Basu couldn't attend the customary Left Front rally at Brigade Parade ground or cast his vote. Taking aim at the Opposition, Basu blamed Trinamool and Maoists for unleashing violence in the state. "The main Opposition party is treading the path of violence and terror. Our workers are being killed. Doctors, nurses, policemen and common people are being killed. Trinamool and Maoists are working in tandem. They have taken the law into their hands," Basu said.

    Basu also reminded people that Left Front's coming to power in 1977 had ended the reign of terror during most of the 1970s. Basu feels the Opposition has failed to keep its promises despite the huge number of seats and strong representation in the Union Cabinet from the state. "The state is staring at a crisis. Opposition parties made many promises but couldn't keep them," Basu said.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ts-hand-in-glove-Basu/articleshow/5187413.cms
     
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    Sabir,I think usasge of army against the maoist would be inappropriate.Afterall the maists are also INDIANS.YES they have been very violent in the recent past,but what they are fighting for is not wrong.The problem is they are guided in the wrong direction by their so called leaders.Poor people aka Maoists are this days indeed blindfoldedly acting like slave to achieve the vested interests of their leaders.They are acting like taliban this days,but the fact is of the 100000+ maoists of India 90% are poor farmers.
    They are told and sometimes forced to do wrong things by the armed maoist rebels or leaders.
    So I agree with the current stance if GOI of not using army in the Maoist battle,but usage of CRPF and the special Police forces.
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    Army ideally should not be used for COIN or internal policing, they are not cut out for it and its not their job. Paramilitary forces should be used for such purposes.
    However, looking at the shoddy state of affairs in our police and paramilitary, army will have to be eventually called in.
     
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    No Arjak.......I think they have crossed the limit to be excused...Police or CRPF are not being sent to make fraternity with them. They are there to eliminate the Maoists.Army will do the same job much better than them with less casualties..And with your logic all antisocials should be released because nobody is born as antisocial, it is the situation that makes them. And remember one thing the main action squads of Maoists are not mere farmers. They are well trained and well brain washed. And it seems they dont lack fund to carry on their activities..
     
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    Yes Singhji. State like Andhra has special 'Grey Hound' commandoes but the number I think is not sufficient considering the remoteness and vastness of the areas. Such things are not there in other states. And certainly none of these States have instruments which Army has. And I am not agreed we dont have batellions which are not trained in Jungle war fare. Till the States come up with their special forces and improved infrastructures it should be dealt by the military.
     
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    If anyone thinks Police and Para-military can take on the Maoists read the following-

    On October 9, 2009, India announced that it was planning a massive operation by Police and Special Forces against Maoist rebels in twenty states.[1]

    On October 8, 2009 at least 17 members of the Indian Police, including a top commander, were killed in an ambush attack by Maoist rebels in Maharashtra. The fighting started after a group of Maoists attacked a police station in Gadchiroli district.[2]

    On October 6, 2009 the body of a policeman, kidnapped a week before by Maoist rebels in Jharkhand, was found.[3]

    On July 12, 2009 at least 29 members of the Indian Police were killed in an ambush attack by Maoist rebels in Chhattisgarh.[4] The ambush occurred as police reinforcements were arriving in the area, in response to the earlier deaths of two police officers.[5] A series of mine explosions then killed several more police officers, including the Police Superintendent, whilst causing injuries to many others.[6][7] The death of the district chief of Police represents the highest ranking official to have been killed by Maoist rebels in the region.[8] The police then exchanged gunfire with up to 300 rebels,[9] before a further attack later in the day killed another six policemen.[8] In response to the attacks, the Indian Government has sent an additional 600 paramilitary troops into the region.[9]

    On June 23, 2009 during a 48 hour Bandh orchestrated by the Naxalites in protest against intensified paramilitary activity in Langargh a group of motorcycle borne armed Naxal rebels opened fire at the Lakhisarai district court premises in Bihar and freed four of their comrades. One of the four rescued was Ghaskar Marandi, who is the zonal commander of Ranchi.[10] On the same day the Indian government banned the Communist Party of India (Maoist). Many including the Left Front oppose the ban arguing that "there is a requirement to bring all such outfits back into the mainstream politically."[11]

    On June 16, 2009 at least 11 police officers were killed in a landmine attack followed by shooting between police and suspected Maoist rebels. 7 rebels were also killed in the gunfire.[12]

    On June 16, 2009 4 policemen were killed and 2 others seriously injured when Maoists ambushed them at Beherakhand in Palamau district. Reportedly the guerrillas were waiting inside the deep jungles and started firing indiscriminately as the policemen went past them, killing four of them on the spot.[13]

    On June 13, 2009 Naxalites launched two daylight attacks in and around a small town close to Bokaro, killing 10 policemen and injuring several others using landmines and bombs. Two Naxalite guerrillas were also injured.[14]

    On June 10, 2009 Nine policemen including paramilitary jawans and a CRPF officer were killed in a Naxalite attack while on routine patrol in what is considered to be a rebel-stronghold area deep in the Saranda jungle. Sudhir Kumar Jha, superintendent of police said: "As Naxalites are aware of the topography and knew that the convoy would have to return through the same spot, they had planted a powerful can-bomb and ambushed the police vehicle."[15]

    On May 22, 2009 Naxalite guerrillas ambushed a police party, after luring it into the jungles of Gadchiroli district to investigate a roadblock, killing 16 policemen.[16]

    On April 13, 2009 10 paramilitary troops were killed in eastern Orissa when Maoists attacked a bauxite mine in the Koraput district.[17]

    On July 16, 2008 a landmine hit a police van in Malkangiri district, killing 21 policemen.[18]

    On June 29, 2008 CPI(M) forces attacked a boat on the Balimela reservoir in Orissa carrying 4 anti-Naxalite police and 60 Greyhound commandos. The boat sunk, killing 38 troops, while 26 survived.[19][20][21] The bodies of a total of 38 Greyhound commandos and police personnel were found after a two week long search. They are still looking for 40 missing weapons.[22] The attack came just months after Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister YS Rajasekhara Reddy stated that the elite commando force, which is the highest paid in the entire country, should have their operations expanded throughout all affected regions and that "things are more or less under control. Every now and then, they (Maoists) indulge in high-profile attacks but that is just to show their token presence".[23]

    On February 16, 2008 a group of 50 rebels armed with bombs and firearms, including women cadres, raided a police training school, police station and armoury in Orissa killing 12 police and leaving 4 wounded. Before launching the attack, the Naxals announced that they would not harm the public as their target was the police.[24]

    On March 15, 2007 an attack happened in the rebel stronghold area of Dantewada, in Chhattisgarh state. Fifty-four persons, including 15 personnel of the Chhattisgarh Armed Force, were killed in an offensive by 300 to 350 CPI (Maoist) cadres on a police base camp in the Bastar region in the early hours of Thursday. The remaining victims were tribal youths of Salwa Judum, designated as Special Police Officers (SPOs) and roped in to combat the Maoists. Eleven people were injured. The attack, which lasted nearly two-and-a-half hours, was spearheaded by the "State Military Commission (Maoist)", consisting of about 100 armed Naxalites.[25]

    On March 5, 2007 Maoist shot dead a local Congress leader (Prakash, a member of the local Mandal Praja Parishad (MPP)) in Andhra Pradesh while he was inspecting a road construction project in Mahabubnagar district.[26] However, police reportedly believe that political rivals of Mahato, including organized criminal groups, may have been behind the assassination.[27]
    On March 4, 2007 Maoist shot dead a member of the parliament (Sunil Mahato) of the Jharkhand Mukti Morcha (JMM) party from Jharkhand state.[28]

    On December 2, 2006 the BBC reported that at least 14 Indian policemen had been killed by Maoists in a landmine ambush near the town of Bokaro, 80 miles from Ranchi, the capital of the State of Jharkhand.[29]

    On October 18, 2006 women belonging to the Maoist guerrilla forces blasted four government buildings in the Bastar region of Chhattisgarh. On the day before, over a dozen armed cadres of the group, with support from male colleagues, blocked traffic on the Antagarh-Koylibera Road in the Kanker district, near the city of Raipur. They also detonated explosives inside four buildings, including two schools, in Kanker.[30] This incident occurred two days after a major leader of the party's operations in Orissa and Andhra Pradesh, Kone Kedandam, surrendered to authorities in the town of Srikakulam.[31]

    On July 16, 2006 the Maoists attacked a relief camp in the Dantewada district where several villagers were kidnapped. The death toll was 29.[32]

    On March 24, 2006 over 500 heavily armed rebels attacked police camps in Orissa’s Udayagiri town of Gajapati district, freeing 40 prisoners from the sub-jail.[24]

    On February 28, 2006 the Maoists attacked several anti-Maoist protesters in Erraboru village in Chhattisgarh using landmines, killing 25 people.[33]

    On 13 November 2005 CPI (Maoist) fighters stunned authorities by attacking Jehanabad in Bihar, freeing 250 captured comrades and taking twenty imprisoned right wing paramilitaries captive, executing their leader. They also detonated several bombs in the town.[34] A prison guard was also reported killed.

    In August 2005 Maoists kidnapped from the Dantewada district of the state of Chhattisgarh. This follows violent incidents in 2004 in the same region when 50 policemen and about 300 villagers were killed in the Dantewada district and over 50,000 villagers were staying in relief camps out of fear from Maoists.[35]

    In February 2005 the CPI (Maoist) killed 7 policemen, a civilian and injured many more during a mass attack on a school building in Venkatammanahalli village, Pavgada, Tumkur, Karnataka.[36][37]

    On August 17, 2005, the government of Andhra Pradesh outlawed the Communist Party of India (Maoist) and various mass organizations close to it, and began to arrest suspected members and sympathizers days afterwards. The arrested included former emissaries at the peace talks of 2004.
     

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