Malaysia airlines flight carrying 239 people missing

[Yusuf]

My assessment may prove right. I had posted that stolen passport could be a case of illegal immigration attempt. That too EU passports.

I read that the two who were on stolen passport were booked from Beijing to Amsterdam . I doubt its a terror attack. Someone would have claimed it immediately.

 

[Yusuf]

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[Hindi]

FBI to probe missing Malaysia plane

Although two passengers appeared to have been using stolen EU passports, "there is no indication this is a terrorist attack; stolen passports are certainly not indicative of a terrorist attack," a senior counterterrorism official told the Times.

The official stressed there was "no evidence" of terrorism thus far.

The stolen passports used by two passengers on the plane are believed to have come from an Italian and a an Austrian.

"Just because they were stolen doesn't mean the travelers were terrorists," a Department of Homeland Security official said. "They could have been nothing more than thieves. Or they could have simply bought the passports on the black market."

 

[Hindi]

Malaysia disaster not expected to tarnish Boeing

"This is the best international plane ever built yet -- it's got an impeccable track record after 20 years and over 1,200 deliveries," said Richard Aboulafia, vice president for analysis with the Teal Group in Virginia. "It's typically used on international routes and it's established a new standard for international safety."

The disaster in the South China Sea with 239 people aboard is Malaysia Airlines' first crash in nearly 20 years.

 

[sam80]

terror Connection ???

 

[amoy]

My assessment may prove right. I had posted that stolen passport could be a case of illegal immigration attempt. That too EU passports.

I read that the two who were on stolen passport were booked from Beijing to Amsterdam . I doubt its a terror attack. Someone would have claimed it immediately.

the 2nd leg booking from Beijing to Rotterdam may be for visa-free purpose to board the plane to Beijing transit.
shuddered by the darkest possibility and saddened.

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[bennedose]

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: Live updates as it emerges two passengers 'was using STOLEN passports' - Mirror Online

Questions are now being raised about a Chinese passenger who was on the flight.

Chinese authorities say the passport number of missing passenger Zhao Qiwei - in fact, matches the passport of a man whose surname is Yu.

He is said to be alive and well in the Fujian Province.

According to Yu, he has never lost his passport, nor has he ever used it since it was issued in 2007.

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: Live updates as it emerges two passengers 'was using STOLEN passports' - Mirror Online
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A Vietnamese search and rescue team said a Singaporean ship has notified them of seeing 'suspicious floating objects; around 100km southwest of the cuontry.

Three vessels are being sent out to the site, the first is expected arrive by 7pm local time.

A team of American aviation accident investigators, led by National Transportation Safety Board experts, is also en route to Asia.

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: Live updates as it emerges two passengers 'was using STOLEN passports' - Mirror Online
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[bennedose]

Malaysia Airlines crash: terror fears over stolen passports used on missing plane MH370 - Telegraph

Malaysian authorities later confirmed that they were liaising with the FBI over the suspect identities. The four under suspicion had all bought their flight tickets through China Southern Airlines, said a security official.

 

[bennedose]

In other news..
Pakistani terrorists using Malaysia as transit point for fake rupees

PAKISTANI terrorists are using Malaysia as a transit point for the movement of counterfeit Indian rupees into India to destabilise the country.

Indian Institute for Defence Studies and Analysis senior researcher Brigadier S.K. Saini said the transfer of fake notes had been going on for some time but had worsened in the last five years.
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On why Malaysia had been chosen for this activity, he said it was because of the huge number of people travelling between Malaysia and India. - See more at: Pakistani terrorists using Malaysia as transit point for fake rupees

 

[bennedose]

Were terrorists behind the Malaysia Airlines plane tragedy in sea?

Data from the plane showed no cause for panic. After a steady climb to 35,000 feet the Boeing 777 levelled off and then abruptly stopped sending its location, speed and altitude. There was no sign of any sudden descent.

The absence of any signal from the plane particularly troubled experts; even if both engines on the jet had failed, there should have been time to issue a distress call as the plane descended.

Read more: Were terrorists behind the Malaysia Airlines plane tragedy in sea?

Another strange thing. If the plane's flight route as published in the media is correct, then about 70% of the flight would have been overland. The plane has disappeared over the sea. No warning. Nothing. If it was terrorism, it could be a group trying to cover its tracks.

In 1988 when the Pan Am plane was blown up over Lockerbie in Scotland I had been in a UK town that the flight passed over just 10 minutes before it blew up. No one claimed responsibility - although Gaddafi was blamed and a bomber caught and sentenced many years later

 

[Hindi]

Discrepancy in Malaysia Airlines passenger record: Report

Beijing: A Chinese person whose passport number is among those listed for passengers aboard a missing Malaysia Airlines flight did not in fact board the plane, state media reported Sunday.

The person, a resident of Fujian province in eastern China, has no departure record and is still in Fujian, the official Xinhua news agency reported, citing police.

The name listed by Malaysia Airlines for the passenger was different to that of the individual who holds the passport with the number in question, Xinhua said.

The owner said the passport had never been lost or stolen, it added.

The disclosure came after it emerged that two people boarded the missing flight, MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with stolen European passports.

AFP

 

[tarunraju]

My assessment may prove right. I had posted that stolen passport could be a case of illegal immigration attempt. That too EU passports.

EU member states use biometric passports, which are scanned at all entry points into EU. Biometric passports contain digital copies of the photographs and fingerprints of the passport holder, which are protected by encryption and checksums. Any tampering with the digital data will show up as checksum mismatch, when scanned. Whereas that biometric data isn't scanned at exit points of Malaysia emigration, it's only swiped like any other non-biometric passport. So whoever used those passports used it just to get airbourne, and not with the intention of getting into the EU illegally. Their Beijing to EU tickets may well be decoys.

 

[Yusuf]

A person on a suicide mission does not require stolen passports. Not book an onward flight to Amsterdam. These guys were looking to illegally immigrate into the EU.

 

[tarunraju]

A person on a suicide mission does not require stolen passports. Not book an onward flight to Amsterdam. These guys were looking to illegally immigrate into the EU.

A person with an EU passport doesn't need a visa to travel to Beijing (China offers 72 hour visa free entry into Beijing for EU passport holders). If these guys didn't have EU passports and used their MY/TH passports, they'd have needed to produce visa at KL check-in counters. They used stolen EU member state passports obviously to use the visa waiver, and just to get airbourne.

 

[Hindi]

Richmond Times-Dispatch
US Navy sends destroyer to help in plane search
Mar 8, 12:12 PM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. Navy says it has dispatched a warship to aid in the search for a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner.

The USS Pinckney, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, is on its way from international waters in the South China Sea to the southern coast of Vietnam to assist in the search for flight MH370. The Boeing 777 with 239 people aboard was flying to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, when it fell off radar screens early Saturday.

The Pinckney carries two helicopters that can be used for search and rescue. It is expected to reach the search area within 24 hours.

Additionally, the Navy is deploying an Orion patrol and surveillance plane based in Okinawa. It will bring long-range search, radar and communications capabilities to the search mission.

 

[Yusuf]

A person with an EU passport doesn't need a visa to travel to Beijing (China offers 72 hour visa free entry into Beijing for EU passport holders). If these guys didn't have EU passports and used their MY/TH passports, they'd have needed to produce visa at KL check-in counters. They used stolen EU member state passports obviously to use the visa waiver, and just to get airbourne.

If the terror angle is to be explored, the stolen passport angle doesn't fit in especially if we consider an Islamic terror angle. Motive to blow a flight of MH carrying Chinese means only the Uighers can be suspects. Uighers can't pass off as Italian & the capability of Uighers outside East Turkestan is non existent or not heard of.

Two days after the plane went down, no claim from any terror organization. Too late to even claim now.

 

[Hindi]

BBC News - Missing Malaysia plane: 'Oil slick seen'

Malaysia and Vietnam have both sent planes and naval vessels to search for the missing flight, and the US is sending the USS Pinckney, an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, which could be in the area within 24 hours.

Territorial disputes over the South China Sea were set aside temporarily as China dispatched two maritime rescue ships and the Philippines deployed three air force planes and three navy patrol ships.

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Malaysian, Vietnamese, Philippines and American naval ships are already in South China Sea and even the Chinese have dispatched its naval ships. This area is out of East China defense zone.

 

[tarunraju]

If the terror angle is to be explored, the stolen passport angle doesn't fit in especially if we consider an Islamic terror angle. Motive to blow a flight of MH carrying Chinese means only the Uighers can be suspects. Uighers can't pass off as Italian & the capability of Uighers outside East Turkestan is non existent or not heard of.

Two days after the plane went down, no claim from any terror organization. Too late to even claim now.

Likewise, if illegal immigration angle is explored, you can't possibly get into the EU with a tampered/fake biometric passport. There are too many security features. If an immigration officer gets a checksum error or no signal from the passport, the holder is detained immediately. Forget biometric, even a swipe of the passport should open the holder's file on the officer's end, which should have a photograph. I don't think anyone is naive enough to think he can pull off passport forgery to get into the EU. Therefore, the stolen/tampered/forged EU member state passports are more likely to have been used just to get past KL emigration, and onto a plane.

Then again, we're all forgetting another thing. Visitor card. Malaysia gives visitors cards to retain inside the passport, which are taken back when leaving the country. An EU passport holder can't stay in Malaysia beyond 90 days on a visitor visa. If these passports were stolen in Thailand, and that too two years ago, then the passports should have had entry stamps into Malaysia for the emigration officer to see, even if the holders had the alibi of having lost their visitor cards. How the heck did they get past KL emigration?!

 

[alphacentury]

This is strange, man .WTF. Its been more than 24 hrs .:herp: Its not aliens ,is it.

 

[bennedose]

suspected debris