Maharashtra dubs madrassas 'non-schools'

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    Maharashtra dubs madrassas 'non-schools'

    KOLHAPUR: The Maharashtra government has classified madrassas in Maharashtra as non-schools and has directed the district administrations to declare madrassa students as "out-of-school children".

    A letter to this effect has been sent by Jayshree Mukherjee, principal secretary of the minority affairs department, to Nand Kumar, principal secretary, school education and sports department.

    The department of school education has planned a massive survey on July 4 to identify out-of-school children in the state and bring them into mainstream education. State chief secretary Swadheen Kshatriya had issued a detailed notification to this effect on May 20, but no mention of madrassas was made.

    Ironically, Mukherjee's letter came barely five days after the notification was issued. The letter mentions that though madrassas are not separately mentioned in the notification, students there should be considered "out of school".

    When contacted by TOI, minister of state for minority affairs Dilip Kamble agreed with the contents of Mukherjee's letter. "My department has taken the decision. We want these children to take formal education. They must join mainstream education," he insisted.

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    Kamble said that since the July 4 campaign was only a survey, the state government would not force madrassas to send their children to regular school. "The survey will help us know the exact number of children in the madrassas. We can then decide our next course of action," he said.

    According to 2013 data published by the state directorate of minorities, there were 1,889 madrassas in the state imparting education to 1.48 lakh students. Students are admitted at the age of 10 and given a seven-year education in subjects including Arabic, Hindi, Urdu, Maths and Science. After that, they can opt to continue with the madrassa and finish a post-graduation in five years.

    Muslim leaders and those involved in running the madrassas were indignant over the state government's letter. "We were called by the government for a meeting on June 7 in which we were told that the survey would be conducted. However, it wasn't mentioned that madrassa students would be considered out of school. I am surprised that the government, which declares crores of rupees for the madrassas, can nullify their existence in education," said Gani Ajarekar, president of Muslim Boarding Kolhapur, an institute that celebrates its centenary next year.

    Kolhpaur has as many as 13 madrassas in which around 1,800 children are enrolled. Aslam Sayyad, head of the oldest madrassa in Shiroli, which was established in 1952, claimed that the institutions offer formal education as well.

    "Less than 1% Muslim children enroll in madrassas. We require such education for the religious requirements of our community. Many of our students have gone on to achieve success in various fields, ranging from government service to education. Considering these children out of school is wrong. We will not accept it," Sayyad said.

    "Madrassas give religious education and many students from madrassas have later studied at secular institutions and went on to crack civil services exam. They should not be considered out of school," said Congress MLA Amin Patel who added that he would register protest with the government. Maulana Athar Ali, general secretary of Mohammed Ali Road-based Madrassa Darul Uloom Mohammadiya said: "I was in the meeting called by the state government officials to discuss the campaign and had suggested that madrass students be considered "in school children". These institutions don't impart modern education, but are certainly educational institutions."

    In September 2013, the then Congress-Nationalist Congress Party government in the state had announced scholarships for the students of 200 madrassas who wished to continue with mainstream education. Accordingly, 600 students joining classes 9 and 10 were offered an annual scholarship of Rs 4,000 each, while those joining classes 11 and 12 were offered Rs 5,000 each.

    State's Muslim population

    - 30% Muslims in Parbhani and Nanded districts

    - 42.5% in Malegaon, 35.8% in Bhiwandi

    - Tehsil-wise, Shrivardhan in Raigad district has the highest percentage of Muslims at 20.26

    - In Vidarbha, Akola, Yavatmal and Amravati, Muslims constitute 8.3% of the population

    (Source: Socio-Economic Profile of Muslims: A State Profile of Maharashtra; March 2013, Department of Economics, SNDT Women's University, Mumbai)

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...adrassas-non-schools/articleshow/47902687.cms
     
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    Good move by maharashtra govt... this will bring more muslims up to speed with knowledge that is required to survive in a modern secular state like India.
     
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    Not sure ...call me a bit unorthodox but I believe that since most Muslims in India are underprivileged they cannot afford the costly education
    IMO it would have been much better if government would have gone for modernization of madarsa rather than branding them non schools
     
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    Economic status notwithstanding there should be a common standard of education. Religious education can be their own choice but normal mainstream education is as much their right and need as other underprivileged indians.
     
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    100% correct decision ... madarassas are not schools. Kapish.
     
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    Completely agreed to your last point that modern education is their right , unfortunately today In our present scenario we have not came up with a solution for this problem.
    My point is instead of abolishing madarsas givt should come with a plan with overhauling the mordenizing madarsas which would apart from religious education will provide modern education and i don't think that any Muslim scholers or leaders will oppose to such a notion
     
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    :lol:
    well then I am sure you will be in for a surprise. Even this news puts 'non-schools' in quotes.
     
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    Do note, that this is a survey not a regulation. Decisions will be taken, depending on the numbers the survey fetches.
     
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    Good decision and must be implemented soon.
     
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    I think madarssas are already on review.
    The Muslims who are part of mainstream are doing far better than their madarassa contemporaries. Too much focus on religion and less on science maths and gk will stunt their overall education.
     
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    My point is madarsas should provide normal education too apart from religious one and some formal body should keep a check on it ..... and incase govt if is abolishing madarsas ..it should come with a plan to provide cheap and necessary education to under privillaged rather than leaving them uneducated
     
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    I don't think they are thinking of abolishing them, they just will not consider it part of any formal education system i guess... Let's wait n watch... It seems a little premature at this point in time.

     
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    Whether to call it a school or not depends upon the curriculum. There is a Madrassa Board in WB, where along with religious subjects, sciences and regular humanities are also taught, that grooms the students towards gaining skills required for getting a job and thereby becoming productive members of society.

    I think we need to look at things beyond the surface.

    I remember how there was opposition to the concept of Islamic Banking, simply because the term "Islamic" was attached to it.

    Let's look beyond mere nomenclature.
     
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    I think religion should be kept out of schools.... maybe this madarsa board system is the reason for violence against hindus and growing population of muslims in WB?

     
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    I agree with @pmaitra, Bad move if true in IMO not every thing in Madarsas is of religious nature they also teach vocational skills based stuff Devendra Fadnavis should think about this.....
     
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    Government schools aren't free?
    Letting in even a part of our future generation in that myopic world distorted by religion is a folly.
     
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    good move, it will help this section of society to integrate well with modern Indian society. otherwise its a watse of time and resources to teach a 8 yr old kid in madrassa.
     
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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    I know and understand little about economics and this issue, but wasn't the opposition also because IsBa is considered antithetical to the traditional banking practices and unfavourable for new businesses/start-ups?!
     
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    @pmaitra is correct, a school is defined by the curriculum. If only religious training is being imparted then it is definitely not a school.

    In fact I recall there are a couple of Madrasas in Bengal which are imparting modern education along with teaching the Holy Koran. They have huge number of Hindu students who are exempt from the religious education class. This should be the model madrasa all over India.
     
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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    this reminds me, don't know where, but I had read that many people pre and post-independence had received their education in madarsas (Hindus), including some of our famous personalities (I think I was reading about one such).
     

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